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Ryanair Team Up With Costa  
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Costa Cruises has signed a partnership with Ryanair.

The Italian company will become the only cruise line to feature on the Ryanair website.

The three-year deal will see more than 5O routes flown by the airline connecting to Costa departure points.

The agreement is designed to expand the reach of cruise-only deals.

Ryanair flights connect with Costa departure ports including Venice, Savona, Civitavecchia, Palermo, Barcelona, Marseilles and Kiel.

http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1134678.php?mpnlog=1

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Bit of an unlikely combination but I guess in this current economic climate anything is possible.

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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

Well it might be unlikely but it's more likely than the Costa I was thinking of! Somehow I didn't quite see them selling Costa Coffee's onboard!


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User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Smart move from both parties...What about the baggage restrictions from FR?
Cruisemakers usually have lots of bags...


User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

Interesting partnership! Not entirely sure that i'd want to be on Ryanair (the no connections airline) to meet a cruise.

Imagine trying to get from an airport (airstrip) in the middle of nowhere to a port or having no assistance with onward travel if theres a delay etc) but thats just my opinion.

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Well it might be unlikely but it's more likely than the Costa I was thinking of! Somehow I didn't quite see them selling Costa Coffee's onboard!

go (the ex UK airline) had a branded coffee on board, i think that was Costa.



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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3239 times:



Quoting Flybehubby (Reply 3):
go (the ex UK airline) had a branded coffee on board, i think that was Costa.

Really? Well I never knew that, obviously. I was also thinking along the lines of serving the whole range of coffee's in those over-sized mugs but I assume that bit never happened!



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Direct quote from the article:

Costa UK managing director Marco Rosa made it clear that the airline would not be offered preferential rates that would undercut existing agency partners.

"We want to reassure agents that we won't be trashing prices through the Ryanair website," he said.

"This is a new product. We don't want to move the typical cruise passenger who would book through a travel agent.

"This is one extra channel on top of the existing ones."

Rosa made it clear that the line was looking for supplementary business from current Ryanair passengers who would be new to cruising.
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Yeah right! Costa is quickly become the LCC of European cruise ships, so this makes sense. Costa over the past years has been cutting costs everywhere, including trying to constantly undercut vendors (transportation, hotels, portside function) etc. This is just another indirect way for Costa to cut budget. Well passengers are noticing too. Ask any passengers how it cruise company has become just OK. Many loyal Costa passengers are flocking to MSC in droves. What Costa might not realize is how loyal cruise passengers can be. Some look at cruises as yearly pilgrimages and spend big bucks on them.

Obviously the Italian airline situation is a problem for Costa who has been burnt by AZ in the past. At one time, almost all passengers were put exclusively on AZ flights. Now, who is left. So I guess Costa feels Ryanair is all that is left. Sad! I would have though LH Italy could have been given a shot.


User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2805 times:



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 4):

Much fun in turbulence! Actually, that always seems to happen to me, as soon as im served a drink it begins to feel like im on the Big Dipper at Blackpool (a roller coaster) and thats not because of the alcohol!



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
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Quoting Myt332 (Reply 1):
Well it might be unlikely but it's more likely than the Costa I was thinking of!

I too was hoping for tastier beverages on board.



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User currently offlineAAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

Sorrry! LOL

Barcelona? Dont they mean Girona or Reus? Only 50 or so miles off! lol


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9170 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Same for Kiel . Do they mean Luebeck? Do they tell passengers that they have to take a bus ride, or may be taxi, to connect?

The same old Ryanair geography again. Good stuff that DUS opposed Niederrhein to take up their name,



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User currently offlineFLVILLA From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 394 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Glad I'm not the only one who thought of Costa Coffee lol

Quoting Flybehubby (Reply 3):
go (the ex UK airline) had a branded coffee on board, i think that was Costa.

Your correct they did indeed serve Costa Coffee onboard, not bad from memory as back then Costa was still a relatively small chain compared to today where it's just about everywhere !



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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

If they do ever get branded coffee on board I hope they get Cafe Nero rather than Costa Coffee. Costa use those funny shaped saucers which I find really annoying.

Ryanair will have to offer rebookings to cater for this cruise market cos what happens if the cruise is delayed or something? The pax have to buy a new full fare ticket?


User currently offlineShanxz From Singapore, joined Apr 2006, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2514 times:



Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):
Bit of an unlikely combination but I guess in this current economic climate anything is possible.

Unlikely indeed. It's difficult to imagine how a partnership between a budget airline and a luxury cruise liner work well, given that they probably target different people. I can totally foresee the Southwest and Westjet alliance working well, but it'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 5):
"This is one extra channel on top of the existing ones."

I wonder if RyanAir is making any ancillary income off Costa, by placing their ads on its website, which gets over 4 million hits per day.



Airlines are in the service business, not transport. Brand matters...
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2465 times:
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Quoting Babybus (Reply 11):
If they do ever get branded coffee on board I hope they get Cafe Nero rather than Costa Coffee. Costa use those funny shaped saucers which I find really annoying.

If they ever got decent brsnded coffee on FR I don't think saucers would be an issue. More like whether the cup was paper or polystyrene.



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User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

According to Costa's website their cruises for this summer will be departing from following European cities: Amsterdam, Barcelona, Bari, Rome/Civitavecchia, Copenhagen, Kiel, Malaga, Palma, Savona, Tenerife, Venice, Messina, Olbia, Palermo, Genoa, Catania, Ancona and Livorno

So, these FR routes can be used to feed the cruises (not 100% accurate):

Amsterdam (flights to EIN)

DUB, MAD, PSA, NYO, REU, CIA, GRO, MRS, BRS

Barcelona (flights to GRO or REU)

SNN, DUB, GLA, LPL, NCL, MME, LBA, DCS, MAN, EMA, BHX, LTN, STN, LGW, BOH, BVA, OPO, MAD, SVQ, GRX, IBZ, PMI, AHO, CAG, CIA, PSA, BLQ, BGY, TRN, CRL, HHN, EIN, NRN, BRE, BLL, LBC, LEJ, PEG, MLA, BTS, LNZ, GRZ, AAR, TRF, GOT, NYO, SCQ, PSR, RWO, POZ

Bari

DUB, STN, HHN, BGY, PSA, BLQ, MLA

Rome/Civitavecchia (flights to CIA)

DUB, PIK, EDI, LPL, EMA, STN, CRL, EIN, HHN, FKB, BGY, ZAZ, VLC, MAD, SCQ, SDR, AHO, CAG, NYO, TPS

Copenhangen (flights to AAR, BLL, GOT)

DUB, PIK, STN, ALC, GRO, MRS, BGY, KLU, HHN, NRN, BRE, EDI, BHX

Kiel (flights to LBC)

DUB, STN, NYO, HHN, GRO, PMI, PSA, BGY

Malaga

SNN, DUB, LPL, BHX, PIK, EDI, EMA, STN, BOH, CRL, NRN, BRE, HHN, MRS

Palma

SNN, DUB, LPL, EDI, BHX, STN, BOH, HHN, NRN, BRE, NYO, MAD, ALC, REU, GRO

Genoa and Savona (flights to GOA and PSA)

AHO, CAG, STN, LPL, PIK, EDI, DUB, EMA, STN, BOH, EIN, MST, CRL, BVA, VLC, SVQ, OPO, GRO, AHO, CAG, TPS, PMO, MLA, SUF, BRI, HHN, LBC, BLL, NYO, BTS, CND

Tenerife (flights to TFS)

SNN, LPL, PIK, EMA, STN, BRE, HHN, NRN

Venice (flights to TSF)

SNN, DUB, LPL, STN, CRL, BRE, NRN, HHN, CIA, AHO, CAG, GRO, TPS, MLA

Olbia

Only from BHX, but FR bases at AHO and CAG

Palermo and Catania (flights to PMO and TPS)

BGY, STN, DUB, BHX, LTN, NYO, BRE, NRN, HHN, TSF, PSA, CIA, TRN, GRO

Ancona

STN, NRN

Messina (flights to SUF)

STN, BGY, BLQ, PSA

Livorno (flights to PSA)

AHO, CAG, STN, LPL, PIK, EDI, DUB, EMA, STN, BOH, EIN, MST, CRL, BVA, VLC, SVQ, OPO, GRO, AHO, CAG, TPS, PMO, MLA, SUF, BRI, HHN, LBC, BLL, NYO, BTS, CND



IMO it's a smart move, as FR will fill up their flights and Costa will make their customers save some money they will spend during the cruise. If suitable ground transportation is provided, both FR and Costa can make big money with this deal...

[Edited 2009-02-17 04:50:45]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2369 times:



Quoting Shanxz (Reply 12):
and a luxury cruise liner work well

LOL... well Costa are more of a 3 and a half star cruise IMHO. They scrape into 4 on the newer ships. I was on them last Autum and whilst it was a nice experience it was not luxury.

If Silversea or Holland America or NCL teamed up with FR then id be worried lol..


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2348 times:



Quoting Shanxz (Reply 12):
I wonder if RyanAir is making any ancillary income off Costa

Of course it will - otherwise it wouldn't do it.

Quoting Shanxz (Reply 12):
I can totally foresee the Southwest and Westjet alliance

How has that got anything to do with an airline and a cruise company?



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2332 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 16):

Quoting Shanxz (Reply 12):
I wonder if RyanAir is making any ancillary income off Costa

Of course it will - otherwise it wouldn't do it.

I can't seem to edit my last post, so I'll add to it.

Ryanair and Costa Cruises might well have agreed on multiple reward points, such as an amount per click; a fee per booking made from clicking through from FR's site; once such bookings exceed pre-set booking volumes; etc.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2297 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
If Silversea or Holland America or NCL teamed up with FR then id be worried lol..

Your right. They still give and give to passengers on their cruises, including their famous world cruise.

But OA260, you're not the only one noticing the drop in quality on Costa.

I still think the underlying problem is that there is no stable airline AT THE MOMENT in Italy. LH Italy is too new, and even Italian owned Costa doesn't trust the new AZ/AP.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26854 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2179 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 17):
such as an amount per click; a fee per booking made from clicking through from FR's site; once such bookings exceed pre-set booking volumes; etc.

FR are getting 12% for every booking made Via its website  Wink Basically FR have become a travel agent themselves. Everything they pipe on about they are now doing themselves.

Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 18):
But OA260, you're not the only one noticing the drop in quality on Costa.

I agree. Although its a cut throat market between cruise lines now. They are all offering cut price deals and OBC. Early book offers etc.. A big chunk of Fly/cruise packages are air fares which can be very high. This way Costa can cut their final price by doing cruise onlys and cheapo FR flights made by the client on FR website. They also dissolve themselves from any responsibility should FR cancel their flights or are delayed. On cruise only Costa only has a contract with the client to take them on a 7/14 night cruise from Port to Port. If the FR flight is cancelled or delayed its tough luck . Costa gets the money without the hassle.


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