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AA Flight 56 MIA-LHR  
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4256 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

AA has operated this flight out of MIA with a departure time of around 8:30pm for what seems like forever. I just noticed that starting in April, the flight will leave at 5:05pm and will remain that way at least through the entire summer.

Anyone know why?

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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7321 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

Im not too sure why, but an earlier arrival into LHR is better for connections and for business travelers more times than not. Typically the earlier arrivals are more coveted than the later ones. This actually speaks well for the MIA-LHR flight.


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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8091 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5803 times:
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It probably has more to do with AA having certain slots and cut backs in flights from BOS, JFK or ORD so an earlier time became available for the Miami flight. AA has 17 flights to LHR daily so its not lacking & has a portfolio most non-UK airlines would give their first born sons for.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5799 times:

Maybe it has to do with changes in South American flying? Maybe the 777 they use will now come from/go to a different place?


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8606 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5591 times:
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Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Typically the earlier arrivals are more coveted than the later ones. This actually speaks well for the MIA-LHR flight.

The timing of this flight makes no sense. It doesn't cater for immediate connections from BGI, GCM, KIN, PLS, POS, etc.


User currently offlineGXMan From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

It is strange, it is the exact time that BA 206 currently departs MIA for LHR. If they are antcipatiing antitrust approval, I would think they'd move the flight to 6PM or 7PM. BA has departures in April at 5:20PM and 8:45PM.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32179 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5378 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Typically the earlier arrivals are more coveted than the later ones. This actually speaks well for the MIA-LHR flight.

The timing of this flight makes no sense. It doesn't cater for immediate connections from BGI, GCM, KIN, PLS, POS, etc.

I think AA cares far more about carrying local traffic on this route than connecting. It's typically one of AA's best performing trans-Atlantic routes, and some times it has been the best performing route. Though when one serves a route that should be 2x daily at only 1x daily, that kind of thing happens.



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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7321 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5338 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
The timing of this flight makes no sense. It doesn't cater for immediate connections from BGI, GCM, KIN, PLS, POS, etc.

I cant imagine too many people connect to BGI. MIA is pretty far out of the way and BA flies LGW-BGI. As for POS, there isnt a nonstop, but MIA is still pretty far out of the way. That being said Im sure some still connect there and the other destinations mentions certainly have pax on the MIA-LHR flights.



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5235 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
Though when one serves a route that should be 2x daily at only 1x daily, that kind of thing happens.

That's the key right there. But AA could make a killing on many more Trans Atlantic but either doesn't have the equipment or the equipment is tied up elsewhere. MIA trans atlantic could use BCN/MXP and possibly FRA with additional LHR as stated above and possibly additional CDG. I remember when CDG was served 3x by AF + 1 AA.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32179 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5209 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 8):
I remember when CDG was served 3x by AF + 1 AA.

Never more than 14w on AF for a short period before 9/11.



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5144 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):

Never more than 14w on AF for a short period before 9/11.

Really. I thought I remembered AF090/092/098 but definitely know better. Maybe I'm confusing my new hometown MIA with my old hometown Montreal. Whatever the reason, thanks for the correction Mark.  Smile


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

I am taking it in July and the retime is making my BZE-MIA-LHR-NBO possible without overnighting.... had it left later i would not be able to make my connection in london.


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User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 729 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4912 times:

The new earlier arrival in LHR is great for connections.

I just wish the return flight was later to facilitate connections on the return.

Blows my mind that AA has only one daily MIA-LHR but BOS has 3x this summer.

The rumored early am MIA-LHR with the late night LHR-MIA return would be awesome.

AJMIA



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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4872 times:



Quoting AJMIA (Reply 12):
The new earlier arrival in LHR is great for connections.

I just wish the return flight was later to facilitate connections on the return.

Blows my mind that AA has only one daily MIA-LHR but BOS has 3x this summer.

The rumored early am MIA-LHR with the late night LHR-MIA return would be awesome.

AJMIA

A couple of questions. 1. why not send one of the 763s that is going to fly BOS-LHR and add a MIA-LHR flight? Do the times of the slots have anything to do with this not happening? 2, what is rotation going to be for the 763s on BOS-LHR? I noticed BOS-LAX still has some 763s on it in late may and into June.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32179 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4766 times:



Quoting B752OS (Reply 13):
1. why not send one of the 763s that is going to fly BOS-LHR and add a MIA-LHR flight? Do the times of the slots have anything to do with this not happening?

The daylight slots are of no use outside of JFK/ORD/BOS, so they each get one. A daylight from MIA had been considered, but the stage length is too long. It would never really work. It would have to leave MIA at a ridiculously early time.

AA is going to 3x at BOS-LHR this summer (and likely only this summer) because it is a poor yielding route for AA, so they feel that they can improve things by offering more coach seats and less premium seats. They no longer are offering F service on the route and they have reduced total premium seat capacity by 15%. They can make up the lost premium revenue with more Y revenue. Plus, the better scheduling might indeed attract more C revenue. It's also a great bargaining chip for ATI if it needs to come to that.

Plus, with AA's 763/772 fleet at tighter utilization this summer, BOS-LHR ties up a 763 for much less time than other Heathrow routes. I believe this slot comes from removing the 2nd daily LAX-LHR.

Personally, I expect that when ATI and profit sharing start going into full swing with AA/BA/IB, that AA will discontinue BOS-LHR and BA will end DFW-LHR. I also expect AA to replace BA on BWI-LHR and for AA to replace IB on MAD-IAD/BOS.

AA does fly MIA-LHR 10w during the winter months, including right now.



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User currently offlineDivemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4744 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
I think AA cares far more about carrying local traffic on this route than connecting. It's typically one of AA's best performing trans-Atlantic routes, and some times it has been the best performing route. Though when one serves a route that should be 2x daily at only 1x daily, that kind of thing happens.

I have to say tho that with this time change, it does make it harder for me to connect now to flt56! I mean you say that i could go direct on the BA flight but its not daily for me and so now i have to either go up to MIA in the morning for me or organize my travel around the 4 days that BA flies in here. also our BA flight is WAAAAY expensive and because it stops in NAS, it is normally extremely busy and hard to get on. At least flt56 is daily and normally easily to get a seat on.

IMO this timing is USELESS! connections in LHR also? it will arrive at 6am (around that time) and normally the first slot of Europe flights are on their way out so you cant make them. The timing of AA56 actually use to work well for me going up to Scotland and normally Europe as it we got the Lunchtime services that operate.



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