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Major Announcement From FL In March  
User currently offlineVulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 521 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11987 times:

There will be a major announcement in March coming from Airtran. Anybody have any clue what it might be? They have already made the MKE expansion announcement. It is supposed to be a "game changer" from what i hear.

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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11954 times:

I'm gonna guess some longhaul international.. perhaps getting some 777 from SQ?


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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11909 times:



Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
I'm gonna guess some longhaul international.. perhaps getting some 777 from SQ?

It's a foolish time to be doing that right now, unless FL wants to offer bargain-basement fares which won't make money for FL. International traffic isn't looking so hot per the recent quarterly calls.

Having said that, it does qualify as a "game-changer" for US LCCs should it occur, just with something smaller than a 777.


User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11912 times:



Quoting Vulindlela744 (Thread starter):
e the MKE expansion announcement. It is supposed to be a "game changer" from what i hear.

Acquisition of Sun Country..

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User currently offlinePilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11818 times:

Flying the Q-400 with LYNX?

User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11799 times:

Could they have a new codeshare deal of sorts in place? I wonder who would partner with them. They could be expanding in the Carribean, but B6 and NK are already doing that. Would they do Europe? From where though? We'll have to wait and see.


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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1106 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11783 times:



Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 3):

For what purpose? With WN moving in to MSP, there's not really any point. MKE is relatively safe from WN. FL is not in a cash position to make a purchase right now, and a stock swap isn't going to amount to much. SN could be had on the cheap I'd wager, but I don't see the point.

My guess is the F9 codeshare could be realized. At what point would F9 have to file with the BK court a plan to codeshare with FL? Alternately, it could be the rumored Q400s.

Most likely though, this is just another "false" rumor. The "big announcement" will turn out to be a new destination.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11764 times:

Merger with Frontier to be called Air Frontier? Going into Canada or South America? Perhaps SAN/SFO/LAX to Hawaii

It's got to be something..



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User currently offlineILovePabst From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11747 times:

They have purchased Smint Air and Family Airlines to offer cheap, clothing optional smoking flights from Vegas to Europe?

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11720 times:



Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 6):
My guess is the F9 codeshare could be realized. At what point would F9 have to file with the BK court a plan to codeshare with FL? Alternately, it could be the rumored Q400s.

I'm thinking one of these 2 also.

Either the Frontier codeshare or Lynx doing some flying.

Some would consider either one of those a "game-changer".



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25323 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11707 times:
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Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 9):
Either the Frontier codeshare or Lynx doing some flying.

I'd make a (small) bet on the first - I wouldn't put any money on the second.  Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineMKE22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1143 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11509 times:



Quoting Vulindlela744 (Thread starter):
There will be a major announcement in March coming from Airtran. Anybody have any clue what it might be? They have already made the MKE expansion announcement. It is supposed to be a "game changer" from what i hear.

Mhm.. Right.. I'm not doubting you or anything, but these things come and go without much of anything most of the time. If anything, it will be a small expansion somewhere maybe with Lynx flying, or the long rumored F9 code-share. Don't look too much into this though..



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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11370 times:

March, oh god, we did this already numerous times on other such "announcements," but March, I'll check this post out come 3/1 and will avoid speculation until then and for now will enjoy any other headline that makes aviation news.

Along with this though, just got my Airline Business FEB2009 publication, and the AirTran CEO is the feature interview and report.


User currently offline2175301 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11339 times:

A major announcement from FL.

Really?

It seems that every several months there is a new thread about some kind of "Major Announcement" coming from FL.

I don't recall a single announcement that I felt was that major.

Far to often the FL announcements are for some new service somewhere (not a huge amount) that then largely disappears after a few to 6 months...

It seems that FL makes a business of hyping their forthcoming announcements...

In reality - I am sure that is closer to some yawner of a minor announcement.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11275 times:
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FL is going to announce a new hub city centering around the west-coast cities.

User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 900 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11254 times:

If I had to guess, it would be a full codeshare with F9 if not an outright merger. F9 is sort of stuck in DEN. With oil prices low enough, they can maintain profitability to remain solvent but can't really grow anywhere. The fleet types don't match (at all) but F9's planes are all leased at this point and the leases will eventually run out or could theoretically be adjusted in bankruptcy allowing for a smooth transition of 737s and 717s from FL in the longer term.

FL has a heck of a gap on the West Coast. A merger with F9 turns FL into the second coast to coast LCC carrier. (Sorry B6 fans, I love B6 but it's mostly a coastal carrier and has almost no presence whatsoever in the middle of the country.)


User currently offlineVulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11016 times:

OK, has anyone even thought of service enhancements???? Four letters. W_ _ I This is what I have heard from someone who has "people" on the inside.

User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2095 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10966 times:



Quoting Vulindlela744 (Reply 17):
OK, has anyone even thought of service enhancements???? Four letters. W_ _ I This is what I have heard from someone who has "people" on the inside.

If that's the case, it's hardly a "game changer" and rather a lackluster announcement considering that FL is "Johnny come lately" to that game. Seems to me, if we're to put any credence into what's being hypothesized on this thread, that something big concerning another airline will be announced; most likely to do with F9.


User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10938 times:

Was on board aircraft 752 last week that had internet toggle activiation and phone installed in galley.... It's been rumored for awhile now - looks like pressing forward. Great news.

User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5590 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10863 times:



Quoting 2175301 (Reply 13):
A major announcement from FL.

Really?

It seems that every several months there is a new thread about some kind of "Major Announcement" coming from FL.

I don't recall a single announcement that I felt was that major.

Far to often the FL announcements are for some new service somewhere (not a huge amount) that then largely disappears after a few to 6 months...

It seems that FL makes a business of hyping their forthcoming announcements...

In reality - I am sure that is closer to some yawner of a minor announcement.

While you are probably accurate, the fact is it wasn't an AirTran announcment - it was an A.net member passing on a rumor. He's since added the Wifi tidbit, so I guess we have some indication of the significance of it, and it isn't really "game changing".

-Dave



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User currently offlineRampguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10134 times:

Hey guys and gals,

Here is an original and novel idea....Let's wait til March and find out what the "major" announcement is? As regarding 777 to Asia, clearly that was meant as sarcasism. At least that's what I took it as.


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3047 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10122 times:



Quoting Pilotfox (Reply 4):
Flying the Q-400 with LYNX?

Maybe that way, FINALLY, GSP can get in on the LCC action?



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6483 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10041 times:



Quoting 2175301 (Reply 13):
A major announcement from FL.

Really?

It seems that every several months there is a new thread about some kind of "Major Announcement" coming from FL.

I don't recall a single announcement that I felt was that major.

Far to often the FL announcements are for some new service somewhere (not a huge amount) that then largely disappears after a few to 6 months...

It seems that FL makes a business of hyping their forthcoming announcements...

In reality - I am sure that is closer to some yawner of a minor announcement.

I agree with this totally. Too many times the major announcement has been coming from FL has turned into nothing. What is the source of this major announcement announcement?


User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10018 times:

My few bets if FL does have a major announcement in March:
FL will order 738s to expand to South America (I doubt it but you never know)

FL will decrease flights at ATL because of competition and low-profit (I don't know if ATL isn't really making a profit for FL but its just a guess)



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User currently offlineStburke From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9408 times:

I'm ruling out an F9 merger but I could see something with Lynx, as Menke has stated he wants to see if Lynx could do flying for other airlines. Also Lynx will be taking delivery of more Q400s around that time, or so I've heard.


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25 Wedgetail737 : Here's another far-fetched thought. FL has quietly been training and qualifying for ETOPS operations and will be taking delivery of ETOPS-capable 73G'
26 GSPSPOT : Hey, don't laugh. I bet they'd have lots of takers for seats on such flights. And, that would scoop all the other LCC's. I just wish I had access to
27 Quickmover : Don't they need etops for SJU and CUN?
28 Jsposaune : Nope...plenty of alternates available for SJU, and for CUN, they can keep the routing so that ETOPS isn't an issue.
29 MKENut : I'll take a shot at it.... DL will force a sale of YX at bargain basement prices and FL will finally get those profitable business routes to the East
30 C767P : FYI, Sun Country’s IATA code is SY.
31 PHLBOS : Doesn't a codeshare between FL and F9 already exist? Is it possible that they (FL) will go out on a limb and actually state that MKE will be their ne
32 CitrusCritter : No. FL and F9 only have a marketing agreement. Yeah, my bad. I know it; I was just tired when I was posting.
33 Jsposaune : No. It's a marketing agreement..the FF programs have reciprocal benefits, but there are no actual F9 codes placed on FL flights, and vice-versa.
34 Jsposaune : Oops...sorry, citcrit...you caught me mid-post!
35 MKENut : You may be right... I heard YX has stopped pursuing the process of bringing the E170 under their cert. The unions are not going to bend on wage conce
36 Wedgetail737 : Stranger things have happened in the airline industry ranging from G4 serving LAX to the E-170 flights on Moukele (sp?). With fuel prices down, I won
37 CitrusCritter : The better question is 'who can afford to go to Hawaii right now?" FL has no base on the west coast. Back about a year and a half ago when they reall
38 Gr8SlvrFlt : Though not in the major announcement category, Air Jamaica is pulling out of Atlanta later this month so expect to see AirTran adding ATL/BWI-MBJ flig
39 Steeler83 : That is my thinking. So they just announced that more expansion out of MKE is coming. Could they then turn around and say, "hey, you know what, with
40 MKENut : You might have something there. DL might be moving to E Concourse in March and FL may take the two gates DL vacates in C Concourse. FL will then anno
41 GSPSPOT : Interesting, but is it really a "game changer"?
42 Qantas777 : Probably some unremarkable merger BS and live tv with wifi. The north american market is saturated with seats, we need more liquidation and egos to go
43 CXA330300 : Perhaps a new base in the Western South or West? I could see some potential expansion out of DFW or ABQ.
44 Airbusaddict : I also think that. What I think is that FL is now like "YX is really losing its ground in MKE, so why don't we go after it. Big time." When and where
45 FL787 : Not really anymore, obviously you missed the double-digit percent capacity cuts that almost all the airlines made in the fall. And I don't know what
46 Mariner : Frontier was given permission by the bk court to exercise the Q40 options some months ago - which is when the contract flying rumors started. The 11t
47 AUSisAwesome : Hopefully something AUS is involved!!! That would be nice expicially with the AS service starting in August.
48 MKE22 : They tried that before, as FL back in the day promised a bustling mini-hub at DFW. Well guess what? AA squashed those hopes, and now all they have is
49 Airbusaddict : Meaning that they are going to be using it for a new frequency route? Or just an additional Q400? Doesn't NW operate an LAS-IND? Or was that a while
50 MKE22 : Yes NW does operate LAS-IND. NW used to operate MKE-LAS in competition with YX back when they had a focus at MKE. They currently do operate MKE-LAX h
51 Mariner : They haven't made any announcement yet, beyond the recent statement that they will acquire all 10 x Q400's that they have on option. mariner
52 Quickmover : I can't think of enough smaller cities near DEN, that could keep 20 q400s busy. Another possibility might be the q's start flying to places like MCI,
53 Mariner : Generally, I agree. I'm not so sure about PHX, but I would add SLC to that list. I put 600 miles as - about - the limit. And I don't know that they h
54 King : I can. First, I would add frequency to SLC. Second, I would add a few select routes from COS to places like LAS or MCI. How about new Lynx markets fr
55 Airbusaddict : I can see MSO, FSD, SGF (or is that a little far), AMA, BIS, SLC, and possibly COS. Lots of smaller cities near MKE and BWI that Q400's could be used
56 Mariner : That's true, but I think you missed my previous post. Contract flying by Lynx for another airline seems unlikely in the foreseeable future. mariner
57 CitrusCritter : No. Most intra-Florida service has been cut. If FL came back to TLH with Q400s, they could do well on intra-Florida with their cost advantage versus
58 Sunking737 : Don't even joke about that. SY is getting better every day, but not out of the woods yet.
59 King : I agree with Mariner that Frontier is unlikely to feed other carriers anytime soon. It would make me happy for Frontier to diversify it's revenue str
60 Jgrant : Booking FL yesterday on their site saw a Note... Note: Cities highlighted in blue are served by our A+ Rewards partner, Frontier Airlines. Was curious
61 Mariner : That's right. It is a marketing agreement. The CEO's of both airlines have said it is "likely." mariner
62 King : The reason you are being directed from FL's website to F9's website is it's only a FF marketing agreement. All travel is via the one carrier. You can
63 Jgrant : I'll certainly be glad when I can keep all of my travel east on F9 and their code share partner from the F9 website. Hope the FL announcement is the c
64 Mariner : Nor do I, but there are a whole lot of things in play. It is, I guess, always possible that it would be a merger, or a takeover, but that would be mo
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