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Alaska Airlines-Delta Airlines Merger?  
User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 19675 times:

Article regarding the AS-DL partnership. It can lead to a AS-DL merger in the future. Although I am a huge Virgin America fan for SEA-SFO flights, I would never want to see AS go away. The airline means too much to SEA.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/02/18/ap6068117.html

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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9348 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 19650 times:



Quoting United777 (Thread starter):

they would fit very well with Delta BUT I don't see it happening right now. NWA has to be gone first.

"But, they all said a combination is not on their radar screen right now." but it will be once NWA is no more  duck 

Quoting United777 (Thread starter):
The airline means too much to SEA.

But IMHO Delta will bring so much more to SEA and LAX if they did buy AS. Both AS hubs will more than likely end up with TPAC flights.



yep.
User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 19599 times:

Oh boy here we go again. These articles are getting ridiculous. AS management gets asked this question about once every 2 months. Of course they are going to say they can't rule out a merger. No airline exec or company exec for that matter would be caught dead saying otherwise. Unless your shareholders are staunch about being independent, you have to keep your options open (whether or not you truly are).

I am just amazed at how much everyone likes to report on an AS buyout. It's old freakin news that goes back years and years and years....and years....and well you get it.


User currently offlineElmothehobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1538 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18864 times:

Such a merger wouldn't be allowed. Period. A combined DL-NW-AS would be close to double the size of its next biggest competitor. Forget overlap, forget Southwest, forget United forget the low cost competition - such a carrier would be too dominant nationwide and would be dangerous to the competition and consumers.

User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18789 times:

Apart from potential scale issues, the network is almost a perfect fit for the new Delta.

Interesting that this topic never dies, and that the only reply is to the notion of "staying a stand-alone carrier" or the sorts.

Reminds me of just a year ago when Gerry and Richard were going on about being a stand-alone carrier, only to have Richard go and announce the acquisition of NWA.

Times aren't the same they used to be, and while I believe any offer for Alaska Air Group will be met with competitive offers, I think the long-term future of Alaska as a stand-alone carrier is becoming a dream.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18764 times:

It's not going to happen but if DL were to take AS, it would pretty much mean heavy domination on the west coast routes (esp. SEA-LA area)


Student - KELN
User currently offlineAtlwest1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 18630 times:

I think more consolidation is inevitable. I think if CO/UA merge then yes you will see the move for Alaska become more clear. I think the notion that there would be no competition and would be bad for consumers is in some respects silly. By default combining a carrier with another leaves opportunities for new entities and smaller entities to become larger IE freed gate space and facilities, cutting of redundant frequencies and route and even divstitures of aircraft. I think when it is all said and done there will be 3 main legacies left, DL , CO/UA and AA but maybe with the purchase of US. thus they would basically all be in the ballpark of same size and scope. I believe you will also have 3-4 main low cost carriers. Probably Southwest, Jetblue, Airtran with F9, and Allegiant(which could grow through purchase of someone matching its profile of leisure destinations service). But really it is anyones guess  Smile


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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9348 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18389 times:



Quoting Elmothehobo (Reply 3):
Such a merger wouldn't be allowed. Period. A combined DL-NW-AS would be close to double the size of its next biggest competitor. Forget overlap, forget Southwest, forget United forget the low cost competition - such a carrier would be too dominant nationwide and would be dangerous to the competition and consumers.

Would even come close. IIRC DL/NW/AS would only have a 1-2% more market share. 5-6% more than AA and I want to say WN will still be a larger domstic airline.
DL is the weakest carrier in the west. Fact is there would be next to none of overlap. (Matter of fact I can't think of any at all.) The DOT doesn't stop mergers because a few people on a.net don't like the idea. Remember the DOT said DL/NW would be BETTER for PAX and that merger is 2-3 time the size of a DL/AS merger.

Quoting 787seattle (Reply 5):
It's not going to happen but if DL were to take AS, it would pretty much mean heavy domination on the west coast routes (esp. SEA-LA area)

What? WN,AA,VX,B6 and UA all going to die?

Also I would not rule out AS and AA or AS and an LCC.  Wink



yep.
User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18244 times:

I think Delta will take the cautious approach and finish the merger with NWA. But I think they could successfully merge with AS now as well. Most of the NW-DL merger is done, it's just in process of moving everything to DL. That can pretty much go on its own while DL starts an AS merger. And judging by their closer dealings recently I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a preemptive merger move, much like UA and CO are doing.

Having SEA and LAX will be a big deal for DL if they merge and could create a great airline. It would also give DL some 737s to replace MD-80s and DC-9s while rearranging the fleet.


User currently offlineNW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 17444 times:

I think this will all henge on what becomes of UA/CO. AS is an attractive fit for the new DL as well as B6. I wouldn't rule out an acquisition of either AS, B6 or both in the future. DL will need a larger presence further west than SLC if UA and CO eventually merge. B6 would solidify DL's presence in the NYC market as well.

User currently offlineNYC2theworld From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 17307 times:



Quoting NW (Reply 9):
I think this will all henge on what becomes of UA/CO. AS is an attractive fit for the new DL as well as B6. I wouldn't rule out an acquisition of either AS, B6 or both in the future. DL will need a larger presence further west than SLC if UA and CO eventually merge. B6 would solidify DL's presence in the NYC market as well.

Unfortunately pesky LH thought of that too and acquired 19% of B6 a while ago.  duck 



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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 17290 times:

AS would nicely complement AA's network plus they have fleet commonality and a codeshare agreement...just dreaming!!!  Smile

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11559 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 17172 times:

I highly doubt Alaska would be merging with any other airline anytime soon, for a myriad of reasons. There is no airline that would really make too much sense at the moment.

United is out, as the overlap along the west coast would nix that one in the eyes of regulators.

I doubt Delta would fly for much the same reason - I cannot realistically envision a way in which Delta would be allowed to take over yet another major U.S. carrier, when it is already the largest airline in the world. Regulators and politicians, to say nothing of other airlines, would jump all over that.

Continental would have no overlap/regulatory problems, and the fleets would match well, but it would get a bit sticky in the long-run as Continental+Alaska may not bode to well for Continental's upcoming alliance with United.

USAirways is out, because of the overlap in the west, plus the fact that USAirways is still trying to figure out how to integrate the last merger.

American might pass regulatory muster, and the networks and fleets are certainly complimentary, and while labor would be an issue, the most daunting challenge would no doubt be the weight of economic reality. Just as with AirCal and Reno Air, AA's cost structure (which would be transposed onto Alaska in a merger) renders much of Alaska's present network unprofitable. You simply cannot make money along the west coast, generally speaking, at AA's cost levels. It just can't be done.

And that, ultimately, is why any of these mergers would not likely work out. Delta, too, has costs higher than Alaska's, and they could not preserve the Alaska network with any semblance of profitability at Delta's cost levels. It's unavoidable.


User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 17172 times:

NO NO NOOO!!!

Leave AS my AS!!!

I'm for any sort of partnership, but against ANY merger involving AS. Alaska has too much spirit to be merged into a big monster airline like DL....


 cry 

but besides, isn't this article about how they are against any sort of merger as of now?


User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1336 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 17172 times:

I do not imagine the good people of Alaska would be very happy if AS did that. When I went to Anchorage last year I asked some residents about that and they worried that if that happened they would lose service.


God bless through Jesus, Jeff
User currently offlineRobsaw From Canada, joined Dec 2008, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 17171 times:

Amazing how:

"We plan to remain independent but can't rule out a merger"

Becomes

"It can lead to a AS-DL merger".

The proper topic title should have been:

"Alaska Airlines - What Merger???"


User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3264 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 17169 times:



Quoting Elmothehobo (Reply 3):
Such a merger wouldn't be allowed. Period. A combined DL-NW-AS would be close to double the size of its next biggest competitor. Forget overlap, forget Southwest, forget United forget the low cost competition - such a carrier would be too dominant nationwide and would be dangerous to the competition and consumers.



Quoting Commavia (Reply 12):

I doubt Delta would fly for much the same reason - I cannot realistically envision a way in which Delta would be allowed to take over yet another major U.S. carrier, when it is already the largest airline in the world. Regulators and politicians, to say nothing of other airlines, would jump all over that.

Politics could sink it, of course. But there is very little about the receptive networks that would raise the concern of the DOJ. Again, just like I said over and over during the NW/DL rumors, size alone is not grounds for rejection. Just like not an iota of opposition was raised by the DOJ against DL/NW, there is little in the LAW to indicate a DL/AS merger would be opposed.

Such a merger would be anti-competitive only in a very few small northwestern markets, but the DOJ is not going to block a deal based on that.

An Obama Administration would have to weigh the loss of a competitor vs. the potential benefit to the health of the industry. Such consolidation is not dissimilar to what is going on in the rest of the economy. It is clear that the Administration is far more concerned about industry health and viability than minor competitive issues.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16861 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 16034 times:

Contrary to what many speculate Larry said at the recent CO "DO" that the CO/AS partnership will continue even after CO and UA begin operating their alliance.

Quoting NW (Reply 9):
6 would solidify DL's presence in the NYC market as well.



Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 10):
Unfortunately pesky LH thought of that too and acquired 19% of B6 a while ago

B6 is eventually going to Align themselves with Star, which will really have NYC covered.

CO EWR
US LGA
B6 JFK



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User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15573 times:

Alaska Airlines just twittered me "Rumors may come and go, but we are here to stay" Face the facts they are not going anywhere, probably one of if not the strongest airline in the industry.

User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9348 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 15012 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 17):
Contrary to what many speculate Larry said at the recent CO "DO" that the CO/AS partnership will continue even after CO and UA begin operating their alliance.

which means next to nothing. CO has no need for AS when they will have UA in a few years.  Wink

Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 18):
Face the facts they are not going anywhere, probably one of if not the strongest airline in the industry.

what facts? They says there going anywhere? And Delta was going to be standalone after BK.........and DL/NW never happened.  Yeah sure All that means is right now we are staying alone.
No one at AS has the right to say we will never ever ever never merge because its not up to the CEOs. If DL or CO or AA come in with a good offer then it will be done. Most of the largest shareholders (the ones who calls the plays) doesn't care if its AS or not. If they can make a large profit on there stock they will sell it. period. That is a FACT.



yep.
User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14842 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 19):

All I know is that every couple months there are rumors that this or that airline will buy or merge with AS and that it hasnt happened. Alaskas stock is stronger then the rest of the majors, they have more cash on hand, they have the strongest niche in the industry, plenty of room to expand, the most loyal group of frequent flyers, the list goes on. I cant think of another airline that could manage Alaska Airlines better than Alaska Airlines.


User currently offlineHNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14745 times:



Quoting NYC2theworld (Reply 10):
AA's cost structure (which would be transposed onto Alaska in a merger) renders much of Alaska's present network unprofitable. You simply cannot make money along the west coast, generally speaking, at AA's cost levels. It just can't be done.

Very well said and for the reason you've stated, none of the legacies will attempt to acquire AS.



Grew up in the business and continued the family tradition.
User currently offlineDL747400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14612 times:



Quoting HNL-Jack (Reply 21):
Very well said and for the reason you've stated, none of the legacies will attempt to acquire AS.

Don't be too sure.  Wink


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14588 times:

So my question is this...

We live in a free country, deregulation passed back in 1978...

WHY ON EARTH, do people care about monopoly and such? That is the BUSINESS of operating in a deregulated country.

There will be other airlines that will pop up to fill in the blanks and such.

Who cares if it is "to big" or to successful. Is that not what we want for our companies?

I understand about the DOJ and all that, I do, I just don't get so much for being in a deregulated country where mergers and buyouts STILL have to be approved.

Survival of the fittest is all I can say.

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineJAChase From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14575 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 23):
WHY ON EARTH, do people care about monopoly and such? That is the BUSINESS of operating in a deregulated country.

How would you feel about going online to buy a ticket and having one price and the option of flying Delta, Delta or Delta? Beginning to see the problem???


25 Atrude777 : Honestly No. If that is the outcome of mergers and such so be it. That is the business of deregulation. The freedom to merge and become other compani
26 DeltaL1011man : Do you have anything to back any of this up? I'd say all of the big 6 have much larger FF programs. IIRC DL has the most cash on hand (6-7B) and with
27 Alaska737 : If your going to quote me then read what I say, I said AS has the most loyal FF's not the biggest program.
28 NYC2theworld : I wish I was that smart for what you quoted me for, but alas, I am not.
29 Atrude777 : Again, I KNOW how it would work and the outcome. But be honest here, how can we claim deregulation and freedom for the companies to do what they need
30 Hatbutton : These kind of statements are not relevant. In actuality every company never can say they will be around for another 100 years, or merge with another,
31 Alaska737 : Well said People need to quit beating this dead horse.
32 Geg2rap : I am sorry to disagree, but there is no benefit to merging a quality airline like AS who still has some loyalty to their customer with another box car
33 Wedgetail737 : DL would only be providing service up and down the west coast for a short while before they pretty much dismantle the network and send most, if not a
34 Hatbutton : I'm not denying that. That's why I said you can never say never about anything. But that doesn't necessarily increase the likelihood of it happening.
35 HNL-Jack : [quote=NYC2theworld,reply=28]Very well said and for the reason you've stated, none of the legacies will attempt to acquire AS. I wish I was that smart
36 DELTA7478 : I think DL has a better chance in merging with AS because of there Strong partnership,Fleet and cities that they operate, NW has a good size operation
37 Wedgetail737 : DL wouldn't do anything differently to AS as AA did to TW or QQ.
38 Jetlanta : All of that is well and good. The real issue is that given the rapidly changing economic dynamic that is evolving, a carrier like AS may not be ABLE
39 DELTA7478 : DL wouldn't do anything differently to AS as AA did to TW or QQ As I remember after 9/11 AA cut 20000 and most of them were from TWA, I was with AA b
40 Hatbutton : I didn't rule it out. Anything is possible. But AS also has one of the strongest balance sheets and combined with the liberal code share strategy, I
41 RwSEA : Exactly. Everyone seems to forget that up until about a year ago, NW/CO were practically joined at the hip. Now, NW is part of a another carrier and
42 Jetlanta : Fine, I'm just saying that he probably has a better handle on the situation that you do. I think both carriers would buy AS specifically to keep the
43 Wedgetail737 : The airline industry is very fluid and can be very unpredictable. But one thing that is statistically stable are the results of mergers...major conso
44 Atlwest1 : The cuts in service that Delta has implemented could it possibly be that its more economical. Maybe the reduction to hawaii has something to do with a
45 Post contains links PlanesNTrains : It does get old. I remember back just prior to the 261 tragedy, I was talking with my wife about buying some AAG stock. The reason was that the rumor
46 Avek00 : From a purely regulatory standpoint, there's virtually no bilateral merger possibilty out there -with, perhaps, the sole exception of an AA-UA merger
47 Hatbutton : I agree. He just gets asked the merger question a couple times a year, and because he is the CEO he is pretty much obliged to say they can't rule it
48 HNL-Jack : This thread seems to fueled by DL fans who seem to think that the only way for AS to survive is to join up with the "worlds largest airline." AS hasn'
49 PlanesNTrains : "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". If I were a shareholder who was an investor and not an aviation buff, I would probably take a lucrativ
50 Wedgetail737 : Maybe they should take over Mokulele Airlines and run that for a while. Ok...probably not going to happen. But maybe AS should consider a new codesha
51 Jetlanta : I was actually involved with some of the analysis of that deal in 1999. Ultimately, AS decided not to move forward with anything. But there were very
52 Jetlanta : Which, again, is all great...providing they can survive this ever-worsening economic crisis. The past is not the future. I agree that AS is a great c
53 Travelin man : That's true. I don't think anyone wants to see AA come in and buy/destroy another West Coast airline. But I don't have much faith that DL wouldn't do
54 Jetlanta : Keep in mind that legacies that buy Western US airlines are usually doing so because those carriers are already in a distressed condition. They aren'
55 Papatango : Wht doesn't Delta just buy 19-35% of AS?
56 USPIT10L : DL and UA had a FF partnership, that's all, they never codeshared. They wanted to do a codesharing alliance in 1998, but DL would've had to give up a
57 Travelin man : So maybe I am not remembering correctly, but I don't remember PSA and Air Cal being "distressed" when US Air and AA bought them. But I could be wrong
58 Hatbutton : That goes for every airline though. Just because DL/NW merged doesn't mean they have proven they are going to make money in this environment either.
59 Jetterrosie : This story just keeps cropping up which begs the question...is it true? or is it the media on a slow day? Based on the media's disgustingly unbalanced
60 HNL-Jack : A marketing alliance such as you suggest could potentially be a way to begin a relationship and one that could test their ability to work together an
61 Wedgetail737 : Not to spoil your argument, but didn't HAL announce that they had lost $11.9M this past quarter? What was their operating profit? HAL did go through
62 RwSEA : These aren't new frequencies, they're typical summer increases. Purely marketing hype.
63 HNL-Jack : However, they made money for the year.
64 USPIT10L : PSA did extremely well, especially in California, until the early '70s when the fuel crisis forced them to cut back big-time on their flying in the C
65 Wedgetail737 : PSA had quite the empire up and down the west coast serving pretty every community that had a long enough runway to take a BAe-146 or larger aircraft.
66 Exaauadl : I dont think US brings anything major to AA. AA would close PHX within 2 years and struggle in CLT and PHL
67 PlanesNTrains : I wasn't specifically referring to this thread, but if you aren't claiming to "know something", then I guess I have no quarrel. While history does re
68 DeltaL1011man : And I'm not saying they have to merge/will merge I am saying I think it will happen. I am also saying not a single person can say they wont because n
69 Alaska737 : Why cant everyone stop playing armchair CEO and let this thread die, there will be another AS merger thread in about three days...see you all there!
70 HNL-Jack : Amen.
71 Jetlanta : Excellent post. Absolutely accurate on all counts. This is basically what I had been trying to say, just not so eloquently.
72 AirframeAS : I agree. I don't understand why everyone here wants to see AS merging with someone and seeing the AS brand die. Nobody has really given me a REAL rea
73 PlanesNTrains : IMHO: 1. Just because we discuss rumors doesn't mean we are falling all over ourselves wishing them to come true. 2. Never say never. -Dave
74 AirframeAS : With all due respect, that's laughable. The threads just keep on coming.... For once, I agree.....in general.
75 DeltaL1011man : well sounds like you need to contact AS and tell them to quit talking about mergers with the media. You (if you have been here long) should know that
76 AirframeAS : That's pretty broad, bro.... This isn't the first time anyone from AS has talked about a merger. The longest one I can think of was the AA-AS merger
77 DeltaL1011man : right now i agree. but later in life....no one knows. my point lol. Seems like someone even thinks about the M word it gets its own thread on anet th
78 AirframeAS : Or the US/DL flop, too!
79 Hatbutton : AS doesn't ever bring this issue up. The media for some reason loves to ask this question. It's like asking a coach whose team has lost 20 straight g
80 Jetlanta : [quote=Hatbutton,reply=79] No offense. This is just such an easy response. Because you can say that about anything. You also can say talking about an
81 PlanesNTrains : I didn't say they don't. I dispute that everyone wants it to happen. I think we all need to remember that this is an aviation board. Mergers - wanted
82 Slcdeltarumd11 : I don't see delta having any interest in AS. To start they just had a major merger and have years of logistics to work out with airplane retirement, r
83 Hatbutton : I did say that there's a 50/50 of it happening versus not happening right? I just have said that there has been so much talk of it happening like it'
84 Jetlanta : Of course. I can't argue at all with that. They same could have been said for Northwest, and Western, etc...
85 Hatbutton : Haha ok I give in. We could go around and around forever. We will just have to see if anything happens. That goes for every airline. Agreed?
86 PlanesNTrains : Besides being a relatively strong market in it's own right, SEA would serve exactly the scenario you describe - connect point to Asia (and, of course
87 Jetlanta : Yeah, exactly. Let's just hope that the industry dynamics make mergers optional and not required.
88 AirframeAS : Just count the number of AS threads over the last 5-6 years.... is that laughable to you? See, people DO want to see the AS brand die. The older thre
89 PlanesNTrains : Well, let's go to the extreme. If we have a thread about a plane crash, does that mean that we want it to happen? I guess I'm missing the point. If w
90 EA CO AS : While that's true in theory, there's really very little likelihood that DL would ever consider attempting to purchase AS. Why? Well for starters, whi
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