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Delta Adds To SLC Hub  
User currently offlineFFlyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12235 times:

Adding to its SLC Hub Delta announces new cities with nonstop service to feed various International and Domestic destinations. Also adds some frequencies to existing service.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/090219/clth030.html?.v=101

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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12192 times:

Makes perfect sense. SLC is a high LF hub in the summer and connects most of the markets in the western US that have service to a hub outside of the west coast. Most of these markets are also strong NW or DL markets as well.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23079 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12059 times:

How many of those new cities have previously seen SLC service? I know IND, MKE, and BNA have.


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User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12041 times:

I was looking at the times of the SLC-ELP service and wondering where the CR9 comes in from to ELP to make up SLC and where it goes after it arrives from SLC.

SLC-ELP : 2:00pm-3:58pm
ELP-SLC : 1045am-12:55pm

So far the summer schedule between ELP and ATL is still 2x M88s and neither of the flights are timed to make up the ELP-SLC flight or leave ELP back to ATL. There are not any ELP to MEM or MSP flights or even ELP-LAX flights.


User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5295 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12029 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
How many of those new cities have previously seen SLC service? I know IND, MKE, and BNA have.

Unless I'm mistaken, they've all been served from SLC at one point or another.



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User currently offlineRampguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11978 times:

I also noticed that IND is the only city out of the ones mentioned, that will be operated with mainline. The rest are CRJ-200/700/900'S.

User currently offlineIndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11949 times:

BNA is mainline also (M90)

User currently offlineRampguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11929 times:



Quoting IndyWA (Reply 6):
BNA is mainline also (M90)

Look again on June 4. It shows a CR9. I'm looking at it right now.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7548 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11875 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 4):
Unless I'm mistaken, they've all been served from SLC at one point or another

I don't remember Delta in Bismarck, but they went to Fargo and failed miserably, they averaged 14 people, thinking they could get some NW FF's.



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6483 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11847 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
but they went to Fargo and failed miserably, they averaged 14 people, thinking they could get some NW FF's.

But now the NW FF's are DL FF's right Burnsie?


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11848 times:
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Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
I don't remember Delta in Bismarck, but they went to Fargo and failed miserably, they averaged 14 people, thinking they could get some NW FF's.

Didn't Western Airlines serve Bismarck through their SLC hub? If so, then DL did at one time. As mentioned by OA412, most, if not all, were once served by WA and were flown by DL after the DL/WA merger.


User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 888 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11802 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
How many of those new cities have previously seen SLC service? I know IND, MKE, and BNA have.

Add DSM to that list. This is at least the 3rd or 4th time DL has tried flying to DSM from SLC. Hopefully it'll stay this time.


User currently offlineIndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11739 times:



Quoting Rampguy (Reply 7):
Look again on June 4. It shows a CR9. I'm looking at it right now.

From the DL press release:

Delta's new service between Salt Lake City and Nashville, effective June
4, 2009**
Flight Departs Arrives Frequency Equipment
4376 Salt Lake City Nashville Daily MD-90
at 5 p.m. at 9:23 p.m.
4489 Nashville Salt Lake City Daily MD-90
at 7:30 a.m. at 10:15 a.m.


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10480 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11652 times:

Delta.com shows it as an MD-90.


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User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11650 times:

I'm really surprised they didn't add a second daily OMA-SLC flight back. It works much better with 2 flights vs one.

In addition, it's cheaper to fly people via SLC going to the west coast vs MSP now. Why fly 7 dailies on OMA-MSP, instead fly 5 and move 2 of those to SLC for a total of 3. You just have to back track going westbound via MSP which means extra seat miles flown for no additional revenue.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23079 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11615 times:



Quoting Mayor (Reply 13):
Delta.com shows it as an MD-90.

I think BNA-SLC may have been announced/loaded previously as a CR9. If so, that would explain why it had shown CR9 in some places, and in a week or so, everything should show M90.



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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10480 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11613 times:

Purely in a selfish sense, I wish DL would increase service on the TUL-SLC route. Personally, 1 flight a day doesn't cut it, especially as it leaves at about 5 pm.


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User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2448 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11574 times:



Quoting IndyWA (Reply 12):
the DL press release:

Delta's new service between Salt Lake City and Nashville, effective June
4, 2009**
Flight Departs Arrives Frequency Equipment
4376 Salt Lake City Nashville Daily MD-90
at 5 p.m. at 9:23 p.m.
4489 Nashville Salt Lake City Daily MD-90
at 7:30 a.m. at 10:15 a.m.

I'm no Delta expert.... but flights 4376 adnd 4489 don't look like mainline flight numbers....



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User currently offlineIndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11557 times:

Don't ask me - all I know is, I cut and pasted from the press release...so either they screwed up the flight numbers or they screwed up the equipment type!

User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10480 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11508 times:

Delta.com shows it as flight 1112, SLC-IND, dept 5:05pm, arrv 10:30pm

return is flight 1173, IND-SLC, dept 6:15am, arrv 7:55am



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User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11444 times:

Why is CMH missing from this list, at one time CMH had 2 nonstops to SLC and both did very good, maybe more additions to come.

User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10480 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11366 times:



Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 17):
I'm no Delta expert.... but flights 4376 adnd 4489 don't look like mainline flight numbers....

The press release I'm looking at shows 4376 and 4489 as flights to and from BNA, with an MD-90.....obviously wrong because 4376 also shows as a flight to ELP with a CRJ900.


Ok....4376 and 4489 are CRJ-900 SLC-BNA and return and the SLC-ELP flight should be 4645, not 4376 as shown in the press release.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11269 times:



Quoting Papatango (Reply 20):
Why is CMH missing from this list, at one time CMH had 2 nonstops to SLC and both did very good, maybe more additions to come.

I don't think CMH will be getting anything new from DL anytime soon, especially with DTW not far away and CVG being drawn down.



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User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2682 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11179 times:



Quoting IndyWA (Reply 12):


Quoting Rampguy (Reply 7):
Look again on June 4. It shows a CR9. I'm looking at it right now.

From the DL press release:

Delta's new service between Salt Lake City and Nashville, effective June
4, 2009**
Flight Departs Arrives Frequency Equipment
4376 Salt Lake City Nashville Daily MD-90
at 5 p.m. at 9:23 p.m.
4489 Nashville Salt Lake City Daily MD-90
at 7:30 a.m. at 10:15 a.m.

The equipment is obviously incorrect. The headliner even has the double asterisk indicating a Connection flight, with Connection numbers. It's a CR9.


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10480 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11108 times:

Sorry, if I added any confusion to this thread. For some reason, I assumed you were talking about SLC-IND service and not BNA. However, the press release is still messed up in a couple of places.


"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
25 OOSLC : Woohoo! More frequency for our most oversold flights: PDX, GEG, SEA, OAK...but no ONT or BUR It seems like our -900s are gonna be working a lot this s
26 Steeler83 : I guess I should not be surprised that PIT isn't on that list. They started that last year (or was it the year before in 2007) with a CR7, then upgrad
27 Mayor : Well, either the press release is wrong or Delta.com is. Delta.com shows it being a CR9. Don't know where 1814/1809 go but it isn't SLC-BNA-SLC.
28 OOSLC : Weird...my flight schedules are updating...maybe they had it on an MD-90 first but then decided to make it a -900 So yeah it should be a -900 flights
29 Mayor : Well, the other announced services are showing on Delta.com as well as Travelnet.
30 Tommy767 : I noticed that in the fall EWR-SLC is only showing up as 1x daily. Can anyone confirm if this is perminant or seasonal? Usually its 2x daily.
31 USPIT10L : PITSLC was started in March 2007 with a CR7, then it was upgraded to a CR9 in July. A month after that, it was upgraded to an MD-90, which stayed unt
32 DLX737200 : Joeljack, they did add the second daily OMA flight in June with all these other ones. They just didn't mention it in this press release because it's
33 MSYtristar : Some of the routes out of SLC fluctuate between CR9/M90 throughout the year depending on the season. When BNA was served before, some months it was M9
34 RwSEA : Noticed 2x additional frequencies to SEA, and 1x additional to PDX in this article. Does anytone know if these are mainline or connection? Also, are t
35 OOSLC : I only see 1 additional flight a day to SEA at 0935 on a OO CR9 Although the 1335 flight is an upgrade to an MD-90 PDX additional flight is a 1700 dep
36 Steeler83 : Ah. Nope, that's not a good LF at all. That means that only about 90 pax flew on that flight. Given that, the CR9 was perfect for that route, as you
37 AeroHero128 : Good to see DL's sole remaining hub west of the Mississippi substantiate itself. Before you rebut that claim, I think [A] LAX still has a ways to go,
38 Post contains images PanAm747 : Unfortunately, SLC-BFL is still not showing up. That beautiful terminal is still a ghost town.
39 Joeljack : Wow...you're right...I don't know how I missed this. Guess I was never looking that far in advance. Thanks
40 DeltaL1011man : ATL size will never happen. Its already 2x times larger than JFK. IIRC JFK is around 180 flights a day and SLC is around 300. I can see SLC ending up
41 SeaBosDca : First, more MD90s. Eventually, 738s.
42 Iflykpdx : Guess a 1 daily SLC-GFK isn't in the cards still. Would be nice for those of us who have to connect through MSP to go back west... And no, G4's LAS fl
43 FutureUScapt : In addition to SLC-PIT not returning, it looks as if SLC-CLT is not returning either (not surprising). IIRC, it was originally supposed to be a season
44 DeltaRules : I was hoping SLC-CMH would come back as well. Like PIT, that flight started as an E70, then went up to an MD-90, then was downgraded to a CR9 until t
45 FLYjoe : I looked at the SLC-PDX service on Feb 25 and July 22 and both days have 6 flights. However, on 2/25 the sked is 1-757, 1-738, & 6-CRJs, but on 7/22,
46 KingAir200 : The 9 would not do well out of SLC. The 319 and 320 do just fine.
47 USAirALB : I was shocked to see BDL was not on the list...DL opted the route with a 738 and then canceled it along with the LAS service. They said LAX will come
48 PanAm747 : According to Jeppesen, the actual elevation of the airport is 4,227 feet ASL. Two of the three main runways are 12,000+ feet in length. More than suf
49 Slcdeltarumd11 : Does this pretty decent expansion in a horrible economic time on top of NRT added flights officially show Deltas commitment to SLC as one of Deltas lo
50 Aeroflot777 : I completely agree with you. SLC is growing, both airport and city. Delta seems like it is committed to SLC for the long-run. I would really like to
51 Post contains links and images Slcdeltarumd11 : Bob Cortelyou, Delta's senior vice president of network planning, said Wednesday "and the likelihood of additional service(from SLC) to other location
52 WorldTraveler : The CR9s or any RJs can only hold 76 passengers. This route is the perfect example of why DL needs a 120 seat mainline aircraft. The 319 could be ide
53 Jetlanta : Further strengthening the DL/AS network relationship. Stay tuned. The next couple years are going to be interesting.
54 Jkudall : For the record, the actual SLC-PIT load factors were (according to DOT form 41 data): SLC-PIT 2007: March - 92% (with CR9's) April - 90% (With CR9's)
55 UPSMD11 : Maybe SDF will finally get some SLC service. What a welcome addition that would be. We'll take a CR7/CR9! John
56 FutureUScapt : I absolutely agree, which is why CLT never made much sense to me in the first place. As WT stated, while those loads are impressive, I'd be surprised
57 Steeler83 : PIT does have other east-west connections elsewhere like DTW, MSP, and ATL, already on DL, plus ORD, DEN, PHX, and DFW. So with that, I guess those 10
58 CWAFlyer : It's different everyday, It depends on swaps done for maint scheduling, crew issues, weather, and any other thing that might go wrong during the day
59 CompensateMe : Not to sound like Bobnwa, but if both flights did "very good," why don't they exist today? 1. Per DL's agreement with the MAC, MSP must maintain at l
60 Cubsrule : ...and the hub in your second paragraph (MSP) is a big part of why places like BDL and CLT wouldn't benefit much from SLC service. MSP provides the b
61 Burnsie28 : Right, but from what I heard is that they were not happy with DL's CRJ-200 service so they often times still chose to fly through MSP. Not to mention
62 Post contains links Captaink : On a side note: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Delta-...Eight-More-US-prnews-14409899.html Absolutely insane to read, makes you wonder how this merger
63 Bobnwa : Where, when and how did you conduct this survey?
64 Tys777 : or I could always jump on United out of BIS and fly through DEN, heck I even did it once to backtrack to TYS
65 OOSLC : Schedule for SLC DL/NW: In chronilogical order Daily unless otherwise noted ATL 0030 1720 757 MSP 0600 3210 319* CVG 0605 1906 M90 (6) DEN 0650 1162 M
66 DesertAir : Is there any hope that DL might begin some mainline service into Tucson?
67 Mayor : Man, what happened to all the widebodies, specifically to ATL, ANC, JFK, etc? All I see is CDG, HNL.
68 Jetlanta : 8 more 764's going to Int'l has a trickle-down effect. Plus, there are now three more East-West hubs to flow traffic over.
69 OOSLC : Exactly...At first I was like "Only 7 ATL flights, on 757s. How's all that traffic getting over here?" But then I realized we got a couple more hubs
70 Mayor : Well, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Air cargo is getting screwed by the schedule, AGAIN. For all their newfound emphasis on car
71 Slcdeltarumd11 : I think we are going to see DL move some buses over to SLC. That should help improve cargo over RJs. ATL-SLC. I wonder how many seats were actually lo
72 Mayor : Only if they're widebodies. It's much easier to sell a customer on the merits of containerized cargo than it is loose, bulk cargo. Less handling mean
73 DeltaL1011man : not likely at all. plus DL has pretty much made all 763D flights out of Atlanta. They will move the 763s to Hawaii via LAX. About the only two planes
74 SLCUT2777 : With the exception of one SLC-HNL flight, SLC-Hawaii (OGG) will all be 752s if they don't just route everything through LAX or SEA to the islands.
75 DeltaL1011man : Both will be staying. The aircraft will just fly ATL-LAX-HNL-SLC-HNL-LAX-ATL.
76 Jetlanta : My friend, the widebodies are still in the system. They'll be carrying cargo somewhere. Fact is that international cargo is a much better business th
77 Mayor : Well, the widebodies aren't flying from the manufacturing centers or even the other hubs to the international gateways, so, customers are finding oth
78 Papatango : What is a 763D ?
79 Lexy : A domestic 763???
80 Jetlanta : SLC is a manufacturing center? Well, I'm not going to argue with you on the merits, because you clearly don't have all the data, but if Mr. Anderson
81 Mayor : SLC had (or has) several medical manufacturing concerns that shipped quite alot of palletized cargo overseas and they wouldn't have chosen Delta if i
82 DeltaL1011man : yes. Also a 763A. Its a non ER 763. read above ^^^^^^^^
83 Jetlanta : And you know for a fact that those potential cargo revenues are better then the cargo revenues in Africa, Latin America, Europe, the Middle East and
84 Papatango : Sorry guys just checked Deltanet and the 76D designation is used by Delta for the 767-400ER with lay flat seats in business class
85 Lexy : That's kind of what I thought. Many thanks!
86 Mayor : And you're not getting my point. Customers prefer to have palletized cargo or have the ability to put cargo in (or on) a ULD. Less handling on everyo
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