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AA Bird Strike At Cdg!  
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

Yesterday at about 2.00pm a AA 763 taking off hit a flock of birds with some bits entering the cockpit via the broken window. Aircraft returned to CDG.

Is the normal for the window to shatter ???

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User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

The windshields are designed and tested to withstand birdstrikes. Ocasionally, a direct strike will result in a shattering of the outer pane. However, the window is a sandwhich type construction and breakage of the inner pane is highly unusual. It could have had something to do with the angle at which the bird hit the aircraft... or maybe the bird was wearing heavy jewelry.

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

I care!
We took off from the very same runway about half an hour later. The thought of a bird's beak hitting your face at 170 kts is not my idea of fun, so please don't be so ignorant.


User currently offlineTekelbery From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

Does taking off 30 minutes later make it more of a chance it will happen to you. Unless they were having the bird show next to the airport....I wouldn't be worried.

User currently offlineBoeing747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

I bet the pilots cared!

User currently offlineWidebody From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

Bird strikes have globally killed over 400 people and destroyed over 420 aircraft.........

Useless statistic #42,362


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

Any airport that has a major birdstrike problem is worrying. Remember the USAF C135 that was lost after ingesting a number of swans? This AA, apparently had a bird go through the cockpit windows. This is very worrying. Maybe if you are not in the industry you don't really think about it, but I am also a pilot, just like these AA pilots. It could have been me yesterday. Don't tell me that's not worrying.

User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Yes, the windows are designed to hold shatter. My friend Delta pilot way back in 1970's. He told me about it. He was captain DC-9-30 flying from MEM to ATL due thunderstorm in MEM for one hour. The tower saw spotted clear thunderstorm path for take off ready. He just took off and climb to 2,000 ft all of suddenly the hail was hit on his front of his cockpit window shattered all white cracked! He couldn't see it. He checked his both engines were fine running. Big relief. Co-pilot took control to emergency landing return to MEM and landed safely. The passengers had to get another plane. Delta told him to fly ferry DC-9 back to ATL and they cannot fix there. FAA permitted to fly DC-9 with a CRACKED WINDOW! DC-9 flew with low speed and at least 10,000 ft all the way to ATL. It took 2 hours to fly. DC-9 landed fine at ATL. They repaired next day returned to service. What a great story!

Big777jet


User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

Anyone here want the pictures of the aircraft damage? I got 'em....E-mail me and let me know.....

User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

CannedSpam
please email them to me, thanks
trevorslack@hotmail.com



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User currently offlineWestern737 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

CannedSpam,

Yes and I believed that you recieved my replied email. I am still looking at those pictures and am amazing that birdstrikes can indeed cause some damages.


User currently offlineTwotterwrench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3430 times:

Hey, cxflyboy, who you calling ignorant?

User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3397 times:

Airbus_A340,

It still came back undelivered....


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User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3385 times:

That is very very strange, my hotmail account is not even half full...

Please can you send it to
trevorslack@yahoo.com
thankyou very much
and sorry about this
Regards
trevor



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User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

What AA flight was this?

User currently offlineCannedSpam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

AA 63 02APR

User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

I don't know if this is urban legend or what, but there is a story of a Boeing 727 from a major US carrier hitting a bald eagle at an unusually high altitude at over 250 knotts IAS. the bird penetrated the radome, the weather radar antenna, the forward pressure bulkhead, tore out one of the captains rudder pedels and severly injured one of his feet finally ending up embedded in a panel below the flight engineer's control station. The aircraft had to descend due to cabin decompression and the captain was incapacitated for the remainder of the flight. The airplane landed safely with no further injuries. It sounds incredible but it was supposed to have happened!!


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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3495 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

Birdstrikes occured at aprox. 12,000 feet during climbout phase. One bird that entered the radar area penetrated the pressure bulkhead in front of and below the cockpit instrument panels. There was no penetration of cockpit windows.



*NO CARRIER* -- A Naval Aviator's worst nightmare!
User currently offlineAA@DFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Can you all post the pics here?


Or, if not, could you email them to me?

My address is: jeff.wickersham@umit.maine.edu

Merci!

AA@DFW


User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3261 times:

Ever hear of the one when a Lear 24 hit a duck at 24,000 ft? It supposedly went through the pilots windshield, decapitating the pilot and severely injuring the copilot. The copilot landed the aircraft, but then passed out from lack of blood. I believe he survived. I have no facts to back it up, but I heard this one several years ago.

User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

There was a story going around in Aer Lingus back in the days when they did all their own heavy maintenance, of a aircraft mechanic who was exceptionally talented at his job but would not do the exams to get type approval on the 707. Management tried everything to get him to comply because they basically wanted to promote him to a maintenance supervisor. He agreed eventually but it was generally felt that he knew more about the 707 than the exam interviewer did. When he went into the interviewer in the Irish Department of transport, the first question he was asked went like this, ' Ok Joe, here's the scenerio - We are in a 707 at 35,000 ft. at mach .79. A seagull strikes the captain's windshield and penetrates the outer and middle layers. What's the correct emergency procedure?' Joe looked at the interviewer and said, "I don't know about the f***ing procedure, but it's a f***ing good seagull at 35,000 ft."
I guess the interviewer threw in the towel right there and then, he had heard enough, Joe got his type approval without a further question asked!



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User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (13 years 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Could you email those pictures to me too. adamdude13@hotmail.com Thanks.

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (13 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3219 times:

Twotterwrench,

I was calling the poster of another reply ignorant, but it seems it has vanished making it appear as if I am insulting you! Believe me, I am not. Sorry for the misunderstanding, but someone originally posted "Who cares?" as the first reply, before yours. Sorry!!!


User currently offlineAaer 777 From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3210 times:

Hello Mike!
I'd love to see the photographs of AA63.
I've been on it quite a few times... The only birds I ever saw were the chickens on the plates, thank god...
My email is elnico@ireland.com. Thanks a mil!



Which part of "NO" do you not understand?
User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (13 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3206 times:

Interesting article on the UK CAA AAIB Bulletin board this month about a United 767 which stuck a number of geese in the flare landing @ LHR.

Save for the normal damage, the most interesting (read worrying) thought, is this happening to a large twin on rotation or just after, especially a/c of the 777/A330 type which of course have larger fans and could potentially digest more than one bird.

Lets hope...



L1011 - P F M
25 Critter_592 : sebree@bellsouth.net for the pictures.
26 737doctor : Quick bird strike story... At a former job as an A&P, I was debriefing the crew of a recently landed flight when they told me that they had a bird str
27 Post contains links and images Mr Spaceman : Hi guys. I found a "Bird Strike" related photo on this website. It looks to me like sometimes those feathered little critters can cause quite the mess
28 CHRISBA777ER : Hiya Mate Can you e-mail me the pics? Cheers Chris@csmorgan.fsnet.co.uk Thanx : )
29 Post contains links and images CHRISBA777ER : Heres a good one! Ill go have a look for a couple more : ) Click for large versionPhoto © Ricardo Morales Messy! Regards Chris Morgan ; )
30 Post contains links and images CHRISBA777ER : Heres another i found.... One bird writes off a $6 million Rolls Royce Trent 800. Oh dear. Actually, I think Malaysian have P&W....oh well Click for l
31 Mr Spaceman : In the Tech/Ops forum I posted a question about "Bird Strikes" about a week ago. In one of the responses, it was mentioned that a pilots aircraft had
32 Widebody : Another strange one, the airline was either Sabena or Swissair, can't remember which, I think Sabena.........a flight took off from Canada, and at abo
33 Purdue Arrow : Canned Spam... That incident almost made me get stuck in Paris after coming in on the SJC inagural, as the last flight to JFK filled up with displaced
34 CX flyboy : I'm interested in seeing the photos too please!! I could have seen it taxy past us, but my head was turned as I was busy with something else at the ti
35 CX flyboy : Thanks a lot for the photos. I am surprised at the damage....holes in the wing, bits of dead bird everywhere in the cockpit, torn panels, cracked rado
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