FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7074 posts, RR: 89 Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9770 times:
My twin and his wife are on #007 to NRT right now. I was tracking their flight and got to thinking; how many 777 does CO operate now? How many on order? Where do they fly them? Any seasonal only segments?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9666 times:
Quoting FXramper (Reply 2): I am not as knowledgeable about CO as other domestic carriers; can you confirm any domestic trips, like a AA MIA-LAX or DFW-ORD?
It has been scheduled on and off between IAH and EWR for years, as IAH-EWR is the only routinely scheduled domestic (ex Hawaii) widebody route. Currently it is not on this route that I can see. There are 762s and 752s on this route (2 of each) + 737s. But I can't recall a time where there was not at least one 767 or 777 scheduled on this route per day. (well, obviously back when they didn't have 767s and 777s, but that's a long time ago).
I know of no other domestic routes that the 777 is ever scheduled on, though. It used to visit LAX many years ago, but no longer.
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AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5542 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9277 times:
Quoting ANCsupercub (Reply 6): Kind of off topic, but I flew LHR-IAH and it was by far the most comfortable flight I have ever been on. Something about that 777... it was wonderful!
I tried to send you a message, but a.net is convinced that my username and password don't exist. Which is odd, because I had to type it in to post this reply...
I'd send you an email, but you've withheld it.
Greetings from downtown Anchorage. I read in a thread that you considered LHR-IAH in a CO 772 to be one of your most comfortable flights. I'm taking this flight, with a buddy,
in March, and wonder if you could elaborate. Were you in BizFirst or Coach? How was
the seat comfort? How was the FOOD (food is a big deal to me!!)
I'm gold with Continental, but this is my first time using them to hop the Pond; previous trips have been done on KLM and NW... and I've really enjoyed KLM.
Rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2371 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9268 times:
COA Boeing 777-224ER fleet - total twenty machines all delivered.
Daily Requirements to meet timetable:-
BOM -2 frames (2 to cover EWR daily)
CDG - 2 frames (1 to IAH 1 to EWR)
DEL - 2 frames (2 to cover EWR daily)
FRA- Flight COA50 from EWR -3 days a week (Remaining days a 767
HKG- 2 frames (2 to cover EWR daily)
LHR- 3 frames (2 to IAH 1 to EWR)
NRT - 3 frames (IAH daily EWR daily - req min 3 frames)
PEK - 2 frames (2 to cover EWR daily)
TLV -2 frames (2x daily EWR)
Assuming the FRA flights are short day returns between long sectors that accounts for 18 (With some sharpe timing possible need just 17 frames) , with 1 in deep mx and just 1 down at anytime.Near full utilization then!
1 positioning rotation each way EWR-IAH per day showing after 7th March.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6704 times:
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 9): Newark to Shanghai starts soon. 2 more 777 needed.
My guess is that CDG will go all 767/757 since CO is leaving SkyTeam. You could also see TLV go to 764 on one frequency, possibly the 20/235 configuration if premium demand is down. That would free up 2 777s (one CDG 777 moves to AMS).
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TristanHNL From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2006, 174 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4382 times:
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 19): Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
You could also see TLV go to 764 on one frequency, possibly the 20/235 configuration if premium demand is down. That would free up 2 777s (one CDG 777 moves to AMS).
I don't think the 764 can reliably make the TLV-EWR leg. And remember, EWR-TLV-EWR is very heavy on premium traffic. It's notoriously difficult to get a J reward ticket on this route.
Yes. If I'm not mistaken TLV is one of CO's most consistent moneymakers, with BusinessFirst going out full or nearly-full year-round on good yields, on both CO84/85 and CO90/91. I really don't see CO putting the smaller 764 with fewer BF seats on either of the TLV frequencies. And yes, flying westward may be a challenge as well.
Somehow CO is going to have to work their magic and find ways to put the 777 to even tighter utilization. But I'm sure they'll figure it out, as they have always done so in the past with such a relatively small widebody fleet.
747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1172 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4272 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17): You could also see TLV go to 764 on one frequency, possibly the 20/235 configuration if premium demand is down.
Don't see that happening; I wouldn't be surprised if EWR-TLV is CO's most profitable route. NYC-TLV is quite a lucrative market.
IAH-LHR is running 2X daily 772's. I could potentially see one of these frequencies being replaced by a 767 - this was the case last summer with CO4/5 being a 777 and CO32/33 a 762. That could be one of the airframes needed for EWR-PVG.
As for other 777 routes EWR-BRU has typically been a 772 during the summer the past 2 years, not sure if that's the case this summer. The same with EWR-FCO.
25 STT757: EWR-BRU is indeed a 777 this Summer, FCO gets a 762 and 764.
26 Trex8: does the EWR-PVG flight originate in CLE?? someone at work says they are booked ORD-PVG, via CLE on CO!
27 CALMSP: yes, flight originates in CLE on a 738. we switched to 2x 777 service when BA switched to 744.......maybe when they switch back we might switch ours
28 Drerx7: I believe BA is going to 1 744 and 1 772.
29 Ikramerica: This is exactly why it does. So that a booking engine will look at it as a direct flight, attracting more pax. And for your poor friend, they are goi
30 CALMSP: thats a strange routing considering that they would have to leave the night before and spend the night in CLE since you can't make a connection from
31 LHR777: We market the hold capacity of our 777's on this route - the ability to carry 8 PAG/PME pallets compared to 3 on the 762 is a huge benefit.
32 MOBflyer: From EWR BOM CDG DEL FRA HKG LHR NRT PEK TLV From IAH CDG LHR NRT
33 Trex8: he's a cheap so and so, he probably booked it from some weird place to save 20 bucks! but I will definitely tell him to check out the EWR flight
34 Aznmadsci: I believe both BA flights will go to 772s this summer.