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Spanish Secretary To Visit Irkutsk Airport  
User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Spanish secretary of development will be visiting Siberia and learning to deal with snow emergencies at Irkutsk airport.
What's surprising here is that there are airports that would be a better comparison with MAD in their size that deal with snow emergencies all the time. JFK, BOS, YYZ, YUL come to mind. I find that the visit is more of a gesture than anything else.

Links in Russian and Spanish here;
http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/esp...te-temporales-de-frio-y-nieve.html

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/02/22/snow/

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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

This may be a gesture to the Russians of cooperation, but it seems to me that it is more likely to be motivated by a desire to convince his constituents that's he takes the problem seriously. A trip to JFK would probably be seen as a shopping junket.

User currently offlineGatoVolador From Spain, joined Apr 2007, 435 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

The public works minister, Ms. Magdalena Álvarez, is one of the most controversial ministers of Zapatero's cabinet. Here is Spain I am shocked to see this visit because:

(1) The weather in Madrid has nothing to do with Siberia. This winter is being quite cold, and consequently the airport of Madrid was affected by the snow during some days, but I don't think that the airport needs a real equipment for snow, since snow is rare there.

(2) I wonder why did she go to Russia when in the EU we have a lot of cold countries where it frequently snows. I'm sure that in Germany, in Switzerland, in Scandinavia, etc. etc. they all perfectly know how to run an airport with snow.

(3) Are these procedures secret? Because I think that any person working in an airport knows what equipment is needed to operate in a snowed airport.

(4) The minister has no idea about airports, so she could have sent a specialist.

Conclusion: I'm sure the minister went on holidays to Russia.  Wink


User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2050 times:



Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 2):
I wonder why did she go to Russia when in the EU we have a lot of cold countries where it frequently snows. I'm sure that in Germany, in Switzerland, in Scandinavia, etc. etc. they all perfectly know how to run an airport with snow.

This is the first thing that came to my mind also. Even PRG, with Czech Republic at the head of the CE 6 month period Presidency could of offered cheaper, easier and more adequate assessment, apart from the opportunity to do a bit of PR.

Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 2):
Conclusion: I'm sure the minister went on holidays to Russia.

She can stay there!  Wink



Who says airports are boring places?!
User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2008 times:



Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 2):
The minister has no idea about airports

She has no idea about anything! Big grin

Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 2):
Conclusion: I'm sure the minister went on holidays to Russia.



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 3):
She can stay there!

Hahahahaah... I guess the Russians would send her back after a couple of days...inside a big chunk of ice.

Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 2):
I'm sure that in Germany, in Switzerland, in Scandinavia, etc. etc. they all perfectly know how to run an airport with snow.

Totally agree. I recall having read about some great equipment which is built in Norway and is widely used in Northern European airports during the winter seasons.



¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
User currently offlinePtugarin From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

I believe for MAD needs to learn from those cities that have airports of similar or bigger size that have OCCASIONAL snow emergencies rather than regular ones. It´s economically different because maintaining a fleet of snow-plowing equipment and a staff that is sharp on their skills can be too expensive when it only needs to be done ones in a blue moon.
I am not an expert in world climates but how about ATL, CLT, IST, LAX, ICT?


User currently offlineEarlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1924 times:



Quoting Ptugarin (Reply 5):
I am not an expert in world climates but how about ATL, CLT, IST, LAX, ICT?

Why go that far? A waste of taxpayers money!

Politicians vomit 


User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Hi all

Actually when she travels she always carries a letter from the King of Spain. (the content is top secret ) but I have translated for all you guys

The letter says

" Please ignore this woman she's an idiot"


Seriously when she was on the board of Aviaco she traveled "For free" more than all the other board members together.

She is just an example of the useless Zapatero Government.

Let's hope we get rid of them asop.  hissyfit 



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User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

I think even a relatively close-by CDG would be a better comparison to MAD than any siberian airport but, then again, this is Lady Aviaco we're talking about.

This coming from one of the dumbest, most inept ministers in a developed country, I've no doubt she (and her boss) are just playing to the gallery.


User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2634 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

I agree with all of you guys. Even if you leave aside the criticisms towards her political figure, this visit is plain stupid and a waste of taxpayer money. Irkutsk is hardly an airport that MAD can learn from for cold weather operations. Spain is not Siberia, and the 10th largest airport in the world doesn't deal with the same day to day issues that a regional airport in Russia does.

This seems like a rather infantile way of politically showing off saying "look at me, [to learn from my ministry's mistakes handling the snowfalls in MAD], I'm going to the coldest possible airport I can find. It doesn't get any better than this!"

Clearly, a visit to any southern US East Coast airport with occasional snowfall would have been much more productive, but this whole thing is just a political stunt, and being productive is not part of that.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

You will have a 100% guarantee that IKT has snow nowadays and you won't have the

Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 2):
Conclusion: I'm sure the minister went on holidays to Russia.

LOL, since IKT is very nicely located near Lake Baikal  Silly

Maybe she could better visit YKT (Yakutsk), an airport were it is -40°C or below nowadays... guaranteed snow  Wink



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