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Smoking Room Installed In Amsterdam Schiphol  
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 15380 times:

Hey All:

I just got back from CWL and noticed that Schiphol has installed tiny cubical smoking rooms, at least the one i saw was between the G and H piers.

Not sure if there are any other.

I guess those rumours were true, that the airport found a drop in passengers after the smoking ban.

I found it interesting, would that be the only airport in the EU currently allowing smoking inside?

Regards
Nitin


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User currently offlineHmv2007 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2009, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 15358 times:



Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter):
I guess those rumours were true, that the airport found a drop in passengers after the smoking ban

Well, i don't think it's because of the smoking ban, but because of the new aviation tax.
It isn't the only airport that allows smoking inside, FRA also has smoking rooms.


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 15355 times:



Quoting Hmv2007 (Reply 1):
Well, i don't think it's because of the smoking ban, but because of the new aviation tax.
It isn't the only airport that allows smoking inside, FRA also has smoking rooms.

Ah, interesting! I didnt know that.

But any idea if this is a new development? I remember AMS was absolutely smoke free till 3 2 months ago.



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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 15325 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Thread starter):
would that be the only airport in the EU currently allowing smoking inside?

Nope.

Don't know about other european countries (I haven't paid attention when travelling) but at least in Spain there are small smoking-cabins at the airports (not sure if all of them).

[Edited 2009-02-22 14:47:49]


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User currently offlineIainbhx From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 15312 times:

There are smoking cabins at FRA, MUC. There is a deeply unpleasant smoking room at VIE, there are some very nice ones at ZRH. I didn't see any post-security at DRS, TXL or DUS on visits last year. There's nothing at FCO, but you'll find AZ staff lighting up in any odd corner in front of you  Big grin


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User currently onlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1385 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 15252 times:

Yes, AMS management came under a lot of pressure from KLM, who saw a drop in pax numbers when the smoking areas were closed. How pleasent to see that an airport actually listens to its customers!

MUC has recently introduced improved smoking lounges, not just the glass cublcles, much like those found in ZRH. I'd be suprised if FRA does not do the same, albeit there is not the same space available at the piers in FRA. Still, every time I go through FRA - which is quite often - they seem to have erected a new glass cubicle somewhere.

There is a direct relationship between offering facilities for smokers and traffic numbers - I'm one of those (very) frequent flyers who plan my trips around the option of having a smoke after a long-haul flight, and I'm far from being the only one. Consequently, BA lost my business, as well as that of several of my equally frequent flying collegues, when smoking was banned in LHR. AMS lost our business as well, but with this change is now back on the "approved" list of airports.

Smoking is also allowed in BSL & GVA, and the last time I visited ARN also had smoking areas. CPH recently closed theirs, which meant that they lost 5 xxx - CPH - SEA - CPH - xxx C-class fares from the company I work for. We went via FRA instead.



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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 15214 times:



Quoting B777LRF (Reply 5):
and the last time I visited ARN

The smoking areas is still there. Sweden is different they allow smoking rooms at bars restaurants & night clubs. Strange that CPH has closed the smoking area.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 15208 times:

CPH closed it's? I was surprised last time I flew through that I only saw one smoking area; it was after clearing transit security but before going through passport control, beside 7-11 and the SAS transit desk

-A



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User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 15197 times:

HAM also has smoking cublicles. I believe they even some small open designated smoking areas.

User currently offlineKinglobjaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 15026 times:

I think CLT still has a smoking room at the US Airways C/D Club.

The only other place I remember had a public smoking area was the LAS A/B terminal (US Airways concourse) but luckily they got rid of it. Now, that entire area smells so much better and is a lot cleaner. Good riddance...


Personally, and I know some may disagree, airports are no place for smoking. Want to smoke? Go outside, or just don't.


-Kinglobjaw



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8579 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 15013 times:
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Quoting Kinglobjaw (Reply 9):
Personally, and I know some may disagree, airports are no place for smoking. Want to smoke? Go outside, or just don't.

I am not actually a smoker , and in fact I am pretty rigidly anti , but if someone is doing a trip from , say , New Zealand to Europe ( usually two plane changes and in excess of 24 hours ) and they are in transit and cannot go outside for a smoke I do think it is reasonable for there to be some facility for them ... people get stressed enough when travelling , and ( I just know I am going to get flamed here ) in my experience smokers generally are not very good at handling stress ( if they were they wouldnt 'need ' to smoke ) so it seems to me that smoking rooms in transit may help prevent 'air rage'



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User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 9040 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 14961 times:

I do not care if people smoke at the terminal smoking area, but I would prefer not to sit next to them for the duration of the flight. It is not hard to detect a smoker when you are not.


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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5476 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 14936 times:

I used to smoke and I think the closing of so many smoking areas asinine. I know what it's like to do long haul without a smoke...it sucks. There are lots of people right on the edge when traveling without the added stress of withdrawal.

Smokers aquariums are just a smart thing to do...from a lot of standpoints.



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3630 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14392 times:



Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 12):
I know what it's like to do long haul without a smoke...it sucks. There are lots of people right on the edge when traveling without the added stress of withdrawal.

Why not get some tobacco pouches? They're great for that sort of thing.


User currently offlineFloorrunner From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14312 times:



Quoting ArmitageShanks (Reply 13):
Why not get some tobacco pouches? They're great for that sort of thing.

It is not the same thing. The physical act of smoking with the use of fingers etc. is part of the stress relief process too.


User currently offlinePylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1603 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14251 times:

Nice to hear that AMS made a step from fascism.

Modern technologies easily can tobacco smoke from non-smokers.
Nobody is working on it as it is politically incorrect.

Moscow airports have decent smoking places.
The absolutely best smoking places - in SIN.
The most idiotic situation is in IST - full ban - in country with 85% men smoking.

I used to smoke the lightest cigarettes. So it is no big deal for me to fly 5 or 8 hours.
But upon arrival - or technical stop - absence of smoking rooms is a torture.

Why can't just get along?!


User currently offlineAdriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13868 times:

Although not yet in the EU Zagreb airport has clamped down on smoking. In the cafe/restaurant its now banned, which is nice as although i smoke i would much rather people did it outside. Podgorica airport is also meant to be smoke-free. However i've seen it being broken. Belgrade airport is a smokers haven Big grin There are ashtrays in the hallways if i remember. Amazing that a decade ago we could still smoke on many European airlines. And now we can't even smoke outside the main doors of some airports. Ah, how times change.

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13766 times:

So true.. I have to agree though, that airports should really understand (through enclosed, well-ventilated smoking rooms.. at DME for example; I can't smell the smoke from the smoking room when I walk by, and it's in kind of a corner of the terminal)

If you're flying something like SVO-AMS-EWR-JAX with short connections you could have one very irritated smokger landing in Jacksonville
-A



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User currently offlineSPIM2EDDN From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13534 times:

What are you allowed to smoke there? I mean it's the Netherlands... you never know   

[Edited 2009-02-23 14:35:54]

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8579 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13501 times:
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Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 18):
What are you allowed to smoke there? I, mean it's the Netherlands... you never know

I wouldnt get my hopes to 'high' if I were you , they are calling it a smoking room , not a 'coffee shop' ... though it could be interesting , would certainly relax people a bit and help dampen down air rage



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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2182 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13431 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 10):
I am not actually a smoker , and in fact I am pretty rigidly anti , but if someone is doing a trip from , say , New Zealand to Europe ( usually two plane changes and in excess of 24 hours ) and they are in transit and cannot go outside for a smoke I do think it is reasonable for there to be some facility for them ... people get stressed enough when travelling , and ( I just know I am going to get flamed here ) in my experience smokers generally are not very good at handling stress ( if they were they wouldnt 'need ' to smoke ) so it seems to me that smoking rooms in transit may help prevent 'air rage'

Absolutely agree with you, and i am not a smoker either.
Also, perhaps the horrific smell inside the little booth may discourage them to go inside the booth and light it up, eventually...



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User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13392 times:



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 11):
I would prefer not to sit next to them for the duration of the flight. It is not hard to detect a smoker when you are not.

 checkmark  yuck 

For every flyer who will go out of his way to patronize airports with smoking areas, I'm sure there is at least one like me who will go out of his way to patronize nonsmoking airports.

No smoking room I've ever seen has successfully contained the smoke.

The smell attaches to clothing and hair so easily that one smells like smoke just from sitting next to a smoker, and there is no way to get rid of it before reaching the destination.

 yuck  ill 

Quoting Kinglobjaw (Reply 9):
Good riddance...

 checkmark 

If you want to relax while injuring your health, it's much more considerate to have a beer or two.  drunk  thumbsup 


User currently offlineDaBuzzard From Canada, joined Sep 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13388 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 19):
I wouldnt get my hopes to 'high' if I were you , they are calling it a smoking room , not a 'coffee shop' ... though it could be interesting , would certainly relax people a bit and help dampen down air rage

Hmmmm, could be a way to boost buy on board sales  Wink


User currently offlineEGLboi From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13371 times:

I think more airport should have more smoking facilities. I am a smoked and I STRONGLY DISAGREE that you can "detect" a smoker when you are not!

I know many flight attedants that smoke and we try our best to keep a very clean appearance and I try very hard to ensure that I do not smell like smoke and that none of my passengers know, for the fact that I don't want to offend them with the odor. I believe the comment about being able to identify a smoker is a complete lie! Sure you might be able to identify a person that smokes if that individual smokes in there home constantly and is a chain smoker. I think it is very offensive that you think you can identify a smoker.

Another thing is, especially being a flight attendant and working for hours and not being able to have a smoke if very hard! It can be stressful and when an airport doesn't allow smoking it can be rough. More smoking rooms, mainly at hub cities would be great!


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5476 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13299 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 21):
The smell attaches to clothing and hair so easily that one smells like smoke just from sitting next to a smoker, and there is no way to get rid of it before reaching the destination.

Okey dokey...also, while we're at it, ban b.o., cheap perfume, bad breath and stinky feet from airplanes.

Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 21):
If you want to relax while injuring your health, it's much more considerate to have a beer or two.

How about drinking while sitting next to a recovering alcoholic? Alcohol does have quite a strong smell, especially on the breath...for hours after drinking. Ban booze, not only from airplanes but from being consumed in airports. Consuming booze isn't very considerate either.

Or, and here's a wild concept, since flying requires dealing socially with, perhaps, thousands of strangers, one might try to exhibit a little tolerance for those things they do which we might not find completely pleasant. Odds are, something you do/wear/emit will annoy someone in your proximity.



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25 WarRI1 : I am not saying that you cannot hide or mask the odor of smoking, but when you do not take precuations, believe me, I can detect it easily. Now that
26 SeaBosDca : I guarantee I could pick you out of a lineup without getting closer than three feet, unless you hadn't smoked in more than a day and were wearing a b
27 JoeCanuck : No more rude than eating garlic laden sausage, drinking wine, sharp cheese or wearing too much cheap perfume. All of these create odors which persist
28 Pylon101 : It's a commonplace to state that fascist attacks on smokers led to raise of alcohol and especially drug abuse and addiction. All polls verify that. Wh
29 Lexer : FCO has a smoking room in terminal 2, sponsored by some tobacco company.
30 ZRH : As a non-smoker (I hate smoke) I find it ok when airports offer dedicated smoking rooms. After or before a long-haul flight it is a real necessity for
31 Airbazar : I agree with you 100%. I'd rather sit between 2 crying babies on a 12 hour flight than next to someone who's just been smoking. The stench is absolut
32 Cgnnrw : I recently had a conversation with a fellow anti-smoker. She thought smoking should be banned 100% from airports. Her attitude was "tough if they can'
33 CrimsonNL : Personally I think its a pathetic sight, those people in there almost push each other to death its so crampy, not to mention the smell coming out of t
34 Hardiwv : There is another one on the ways towards KLM Crown Lounge in the Schengen area...not that I use it, I see (smell) it everytime I walk to the Crown Lo
35 Rafabozzolla : Don't count on it... Word of an ex smoker who remembers all too well the urge to smoke just before and after a short two hour flight!
36 B777LRF : " Every airport that has the so called smoking rooms should make people pass a snif test before entering the airplane and anyone who doesn't pass shou
37 Kinglobjaw : Yes all of them can smell bad, but only one of those affects one's health- smoke. Ever heard of second hand smoke? There are a lot of people like mys
38 JoeCanuck : I agree completely...in fact, let's expand it. The same should be done for people who omit any odor which may be considered offensive...which is any
39 B747-4U3 : The smell of someone who has had a cigarette will not give you cancer, just as the smell of someone who has been eating garlic will not give you seco
40 Airbazar : So you agree that intoxicated people should be allowed inside airplanes. Interesting idea. While we're at it, let's allow the pilots to fly drunk or
41 Deaphen : In AMS's defense, i must say that they have really thought over non smokers concerns, becuase the smoking room i saw was in a rather secluded area and
42 Micstatic : I think Tampa (KTPA) does a perfect job at satisfying both sides of the issue. They have outdoor smoking areas which are almost like a metal cage. Saf
43 EDICHC : Correct it is the directly exhaled smoke which carries the vast majority of carcinogens in passive smoking. A smaller proportion will remain in the e
44 Airbazar : You're missing the point entirely. It's a matter of higiene or common decency even. Just like I wouldn't get on a plane without taking a shower, or t
45 B747-4U3 : It would disagree and say it is probably because they cost money to operate and take up space which could be used by shops which would generate addit
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