Allrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 1409 posts, RR: 3 Posted (4 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 21215 times:
I'd start off Thread 24 with something witty, but my mind is preoccupied visualising John Howard pretending to be Don Corleone. Although I can kind of see Mandy Vanstone fitting the Marlon Brando role a bit better.
* DRW and BNE terminals' expansion greenlighted
* EK A380 seen in Australian skies
* Discussion about whether TT will fly SYD-MEL and elsewhere
* REALDEAL revealed to be a travel wholesaler specialising in NA
* MacAir shuts down
* Qantas flight changes to China, India and NZ, rumours about rerouting FRA from MEL to BNE
* PTV's on 767's (no information) and 738's trans-tasman (virtually confirmed)
* Draft master plan for CBR released
* DJ opens new E-jet services to regional Qld, plus CBR.
* MH confirms the KUL-DRW flight with a 738
* JQ to replace QF in NZ
* Various VAust chat
* Qatar to server MEL in 09
* JQ looking for an intermediate stop to NA
Cupraibiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 831 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 21160 times:
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 2): Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
A Virgin Blue flight bound for Sydney has returned to Melbourne Airport safely after a tyre shredded on take-off.
Emergency services had been placed on high alert amid fears the Embraer aircraft, with 79 passengers onboard, had damaged its undercarriage.
DJ are using Embraers on the MEL-SYD during the Monday morning peak period ? Am I the only one who finds that a bit surprising ?
My brother flies to SYD for work very frequently using DJ. I always ask him what equipment he is on and the EMB is quite a common answer.
It seems to me that whatever routes were viable when the business case was made to purchase them have since evaporated
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Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 12 hours ago) and read 21154 times:
Quoting Cupraibiza (Reply 3): My brother flies to SYD for work very frequently using DJ. I always ask him what equipment he is on and the EMB is quite a common answer.
interesting , I guess my question would be why cant DJ fill a 737 on a weekday morning on one of the busiest routes in the world ? I will admit to being a bit shocked at this .
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ANstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4845 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 12 hours ago) and read 21123 times:
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 4): nteresting , I guess my question would be why cant DJ fill a 737 on a weekday morning on one of the busiest routes in the world ? I will admit to being a bit shocked at this .
It was the 6.45am flight I think. So they have another 737 at 7am and 7.15am so it is not as dramatic as it sounds.
But I guess better to run a 100% full E70 than a 50% full 737.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 12 hours ago) and read 21116 times:
Quoting ANstar (Reply 5): It was the 6.45am flight I think. So they have another 737 at 7am and 7.15am so it is not as dramatic as it sounds.
But I guess better to run a 100% full E70 than a 50% full 737.
ah , that makes more sense , thanks for the update , because the article said that it returned shortly after take off and landed at around 07:57 so I assumed that it was a peak hour flight rather than an early morning one
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DavidByrne From New Zealand, joined Sep 2007, 1527 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 11 hours ago) and read 21095 times:
Quoting ANstar (Reply 5): It was the 6.45am flight I think. So they have another 737 at 7am and 7.15am so it is not as dramatic as it sounds.
But I guess better to run a 100% full E70 than a 50% full 737.
Begs the question as to why DJ operates three flights in half an hour - surely two 738s or 73Gs at 6.45am and 7.15am would be sufficient? But three flights at quarter-hour intervals - that seems incredibly wasteful.
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The Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 21058 times:
Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 7): Begs the question as to why DJ operates three flights in half an hour - surely two 738s or 73Gs at 6.45am and 7.15am would be sufficient? But three flights at quarter-hour intervals - that seems incredibly wasteful
QF does this on some mornings (particularly Mon and Tue); SYD-MEL and vv often there are 2 x 763's and 1 x 73H within a half hour period and again at about 5:30-6pm at night, often there will be 2 x 763's and 1 x 73H. In fact, this morning, there was 1 x 332, 1 x 734 and 1 x 763.
It's not wasteful, there is demand at those times for that number of flights. Anyone who's flown between SYD and MEL at those times on a weekday will attest to that.
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 22 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 21051 times:
Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 7): Begs the question as to why DJ operates three flights in half an hour - surely two 738s or 73Gs at 6.45am and 7.15am would be sufficient? But three flights at quarter-hour intervals - that seems incredibly wasteful.
Crew base and some MX in Melbourne perhaps.
aircraft overnights there, then probably needs to be in Sydney for a 9am departure to another destination in the network??
QF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 599 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 20857 times:
Uluru is now appearing as a selectable destination on Jetstar.com (see above). Is anyone aware of Jetstar’s plans for the Red Centre? AYQ-DRW would be a new pairing that is currently serviced via Alice Springs. I understand that CNS/PER-AYQ mainly caters for the JP/UK/DE markets and American Tour Groups. Qantas airfares to AYQ have slowly been on the decline and I’m sure Jetstar would offer consistently, low fares (which can only be a good thing for the region), however it would be disappointing to see the removal of QantasLink/NationalJet 717-200 services. They currently offer a solid product, with comfortable and spacious seating and friendly service.
In related news, Qantas will increase services from Adelaide/Perth to Darwin later in the year. Both ADL/PER will see an extra 3 weekly services, operated by 737-800s. As per usual, 767-300s will operate on select ADL-DRW services during the peak season.
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 22 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 20842 times:
Quoting QF175 (Reply 10): Uluru is now appearing as a selectable destination on Jetstar.com (see above). Is anyone aware of Jetstar’s plans for the Red Centre? AYQ-DRW would be a new pairing that is currently serviced via Alice Springs. I understand that CNS/PER-AYQ mainly caters for the JP/UK/DE markets and American Tour Groups. Qantas airfares to AYQ have slowly been on the decline and I’m sure Jetstar would offer consistently, low fares (which can only be a good thing for the region), however it would be disappointing to see the removal of QantasLink/NationalJet 717-200 services. They currently offer a solid product, with comfortable and spacious seating and friendly service.
It doesn't appear to be bookable...
I suspect this is an error.
I doubt DRW-AYQ would be a sector flown..
If anything, i suspect OOL-AYQ or CNS-AYQ (replacing 1 x B717 service) to connect with JQ's Japan services.
REALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 hours ago) and read 20828 times:
from todays Australian Aviation Express Issue 260
Skyairworld ceases ops for the moment !!!
2 ERJ 145 jets parked at CNS
quote ...
SKYAIRWORLD 'PAUSES' TO RESTRUCTURE: Brisbane based charter and
RPT airline SkyAirWorld announced on February 22 its decision to temporarily "pause all
flying operations in the short term" as it bids to restructure its organisation.
....
This latest announcement came after the airline had already laid off 40
staff and suspended its ERJ-145 operations on February 16. ... SkyAirWorld says it is still committed to the launch of services to Christmas Island and Cocos (Keeling) Islands from Perth with E-190s from April 3 2009.
Should Qantas do an Impulse & move in & take over ops of Skyairworld, but keep SAW going., keeping many staff in work, even though it might be at lower wages or on a part time basis.
Presume their E-jets (think 1 x e-170 & 1 x e-190) are still around ?
These e-jets are apparently VERY economical to operate.
Air North of Darwin have 1 x e-170 & another apparently due in April if it hasn't been cancelled.
Could QF put e-jets on thin routes or in place of 737 or A320(JQ) services ? (assuming they can park some aircraft at little cost to QF/JQ)
Air North must be looking for work for their 2 x e-170's as well as they must have spare capacity.
What routes?
eg.
For coming winter season QF only has 1 service BNE/ZQN whereas NZ has 3/week !!!
Surely, QF could put on 2 x e-jets, so as to offer frequency without too much capacity.
People are looking for cheaper options, which means, staying 3 star versus 4 or 5 star, less stay away or heaven forbid not going at all, which is bad for everyone.
With only 1 nonstop/week BNE/ZQN is pax want 1 week in Queenstown, that's fine, but if they only want 5 nights, then they either must fly via CHC, AKL or fly NZ one way.
Should Qantas make Skyairworld into a an Allegiant (USA) G4 who are making money in the USA, one of the few to do so, because they are a tour operator who happen to run an airline & have very low operating costs (in G4's case because they are using MD80 which are very cheap to acquire, whereas e-jets are cheap to operate ?
DJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 hours ago) and read 20772 times:
Quoting ANstar (Reply 13): I couldnt see if it was a ZK or VH rego
Judging by what's on the nose wheel cover - PM - I'm thinking it's a ZK rego. I'm of this thought because Virgin's E190's are registered from VH-ZPA, where Pac Blue's 73G's are registered in the ZK-PM_ area. Could be ZK registered to keep some rego commonality there. Only a thought.
Anstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4845 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20421 times:
Quoting QF744 (Reply 16): Here are some video interviews from the AIME conference in Melbourne with DJ, VA and EY.
LoL - The Virgin Blue guy is useless.... he says Premium Economy has been sucessfult o NZ and Fiji.... eh? They don't operate PE on those routes! LEARN YOUR PRODUCT. Muppet!
QF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 599 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20396 times:
I understand that Qantas were due to announce a new once weekly Adelaide-Karratha service on Friday - obviously this didn't occur.. wonder if it's been placed on the backburner or whether they are waiting for another time to make the announcement.
I was under the impression that Sydney - Karratha services would be next, followed by ADL.
In other news, I understand that Thai Airways is once again studying the option to route BKK-AKL services via Brisbane. It would give BNE another BKK service and would increase competition on the already crowded BNE-AKL market. I guess there may be an announcement in due course?
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 20337 times:
Now that QF have gone for real lie flat beds in J on the A380 does anyone know whether there is any plan to update the old first generation skybeds on other a/c ?
I am assuming that the oldest 744s will be retiring in the next few years so I can understand not updating all of them , but I would assume that the 747-400ERs must have quite a few years of life in them ( IIRC correctly the oldest one is less than 7 years old ) and as they are operated mainly on routes to North America where they already face lie flat competition from NZ and the newly refitted UA a/c and will soon be facing lie flat competition from DJ and DL one would think that they would be worth retrofitting with the second generation skybed otherwise they will be the only carrier on the route with old style sloped beds in J which surely must put them at a disadvantage. Has anyone heard anything regarding this ?
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Alangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2091 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 20242 times:
Quoting Allrite (Reply 20): Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 19):
The KUL-DRW route has been quietly withdrawn (again) so no hopes of seeing MH back on NT turf for now.
Well, the Malays were supposed to have invented the yo-yo!
ANstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4845 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20153 times:
Quoting QF175 (Reply 18): I understand that Thai Airways is once again studying the option to route BKK-AKL services via Brisbane. It would give BNE another BKK service and would increase competition on the already crowded BNE-AKL market.
If AKL is not working for them as a non stop, I don't see why they should bother flying BKK-BNE-AKL when they could just code share with NZ.
Sure I understand that they would still have a presence in AKL, but if they aren't making money, why bother?
25 Pilotdude09: Had heard rumours about Sydney and Melbourne but not Adelaide, but it makes sense alot of FIFO workers live in Adelaide but that is all I'd assume it
26 TN486: If it has PM on the nose wheel cover, then am I correct in suggesting that it would probably be a VH rego as it is normal to have the last two letter
27 TN486: W R O N G delete all reference, what must he be thinking
28 VH-BZF: I have heard from one of my mates in QF engineering here in Sydney that they are planning to retire the oldest B744's over the coming 4-5years and th
29 Sparklehorse12: I beleive all the old 744's are due for retirement and based on some gossip it will be sooner rather than later. If my predictions come true, VA's 77
30 6thfreedom: Possible, although it would be the longest sector in their narrowbody operations.
31 Ryanair!!!: This doesn't mean it isn't do-able. Valuair used to fly SIN-PER on the A320, which is now done by JQ. MU flies SIN-PVG on the A320s too, slightly lon
32 6thfreedom: Don't they already operate BNE-KTA? why wouldn't they put the traffic via BNE instead, or add frequency to that sector rather than operating 1pw?
33 QF175: 1) Such a move allows Thai Airways to increase services to Brisbane without the tieing up additional aircraft (i.e. a dedicated 772 just for BKK-BNE-
34 6thfreedom: All valid points, but the dilemma TG must be having is this: - It's ano brainer that AKL should be cancelled. - If you delink BNE from the overnight
35 DavidByrne: Why do you say that? The route operated up to 10x weekly in the past with a stop in SYD or BNE, and although loads have probably suffered as a result
36 Ryanair!!!: With regards to TG and AKL, I suspect they get a significant amount of passengers to fly with them to BKK and onwards to Europe. While they might not
37 6thfreedom: The past is the past... when they operated 10pw I don't think EK had 4 trans-Tasman flights per day, or the A30 being deployed. I think this sums it
39 Allrite: Why did they have to make the livery so close to Qantas? The V Australia 777 just flew low overhead our offices in Marsfield, forcing me to stick my
40 QF175: Nonstop QF123/QF124 SYD-BOM-SYD services will cease operation effective 1 June 2009 (31 May is the last service). From the 2nd of June 2009, QF51 Bris
41 Pilotdude09: Think there's quite a few people who fly to ADL, more than i ever though. Talking to someone who works with DJ up here and she was saying they have a
42 6thfreedom: how would this work?? current timings on the service are: 1:55p BNE I 7:50p SIN 1 QF 51 Non-stop 9:25p SIN 1 6:50a+1 BNE I QF 52 Non-stop Would SIN-B
43 QF175: I guess it's a waiting game to see the new schedules. The following information is all I have received:
44 6thfreedom: Can be only one of three options: 1. extend connections to/from LHR/FRA by having earlier departure ex BNE 2. SIN-BNE to operate as morning departure
45 747m8te: They did a flight with pax MEL-SYD today, they had their check-in on the international counters 90-96.
46 6thfreedom: DAYS 3*5*7 BNE 1355 SIN 1950 SIN 2150 BOM 0050 DAYS 1*4*6 BOM 1145 SIN 1940 SIN 2125 BNE 0650+1 DAYS 1*2*4*7 BNE 1355 SIN 1950 SIN 2215 ADL 0740+1 DAY
47 ANstar: But they weren't paying pax. I said tomorrow is their first lfight with paying pax. They will be using the Malaysian Airlines lounge in Sydney and Al
48 Anstar: Some more pics here of the interior of the new VA bird. http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/tra...lia-measures-up-20090213-86oz.html
49 REALDEAL: does anyone know or can anyone report on load factor on tomorrow 1st VA flight SYD/LAX ? It appears to have lots of seats still for sale based on Amad
51 REALDEAL: amazing this is VA have been trying to give away seats to industry for $599 (+tax)return, but many agents are too scared to fly anywhere, as they migh
52 ANstar: Which is what with tax? $975 ish? the same as their current sale to the public?
53 REALDEAL: yeh more loss leaders $975 return !!! http://v-mail.virginblue.com.au/PS!I...g1NTA1NDU5OQkAAl5rCggyMTcxNTgxMgU=
54 ANstar: How do you know that $975 is loss fare? they pay their pilots about half of what their competitors do and have cut the pay of cabin crew so they dont
55 QF175: Brisbane - Singapore - Mumbai schedules have been loaded (no changes to BNE-SIN-BNE): QF51 BNE/SIN 13:55L/19:50L QF51 SIN/BOM 23:55L/02:40L (TUE/THU/S
56 REALDEAL: take out taxes (but not the fuel surcharge) & that must bring it back to something like AUD$700 or $350 one way - r u suggesting that can operate a n
57 6thfreedom: There has to be more to this due to the overnighting flight in BOM. Say the tuesday departure from BNE to SIN, then onto BOM. what happens to the Wed
58 REALDEAL: just had someone wanting to go to USA after Xmas saying why can't I get a $975 fare, when VA are selling them for that now (not for Xmas) they must be
59 QF175: Cebu Pacific is rumoured to be looking at acquiring some of SQ's older 772s to inaugurate services to Australia (destinations unspecified). 6thfreedom
60 QF744: Here's a video of the V Australia launch party last night... http://www.spicenews.com.au/2009/02/...In-Stellar-Fashion/DAPFGHDPKL.html QF744
61 The Coachman: A 772 between Australia and the Phillippines is inefficient. The only way it would work is if the acquisition costs compensated for the extra weight t
62 REALDEAL: so did 1st VA flight SYD/LAX get away on time at 1400 AEST ?
63 Airvan00: It was scheduled for a 1500 AEDT departure and got airborne at 1534, so allowing for about 20 min from the gate to airborne, which is usual, I suspec
64 REALDEAL: last time I looked 1400 AEST was 1500 AE dodgy time. I think only Qld operates on standard time this time of year.
65 Airvan00: ^^ Yes but it departed from SYD so it would be stupid to quote any other time but local time (or maybe UTC would be acceptable)
66 REALDEAL: no we work off ae standard time here in sunshine state.
67 6thfreedom: What's the right aircraft? A330/B763?? then again, I'd imagine cebu pacific would cram +350 on a B772. is that still inefficient?
68 QantasA333: Wrong! The NT operates on their standard time, which during daylight savings is an hour behind SA.
69 ANstar: Actually here in SYD where the aircraft departed from it is AEDT so it would be stupid to quote anything else. If you lived in London, we wouldn't sa
70 Bjwonline: Qantas special one world livery B747-400 to take off tomorrow 28/2 as QF73 SYD-SFO. An A332 is to also follow with the special one world livery by the
71 REALDEAL: ok it's fri pm - u must be already pissed !!! NT has never been on AEST.
72 Mal787: He never stated that the NT operates on AEST. For info the NT is on CST and during this time of year we are 1.5 hrs behind NSW Vic & Tas .5 behind QL
73 QF175: Finally, an official media release, which may answer some of the questions that have arisen throughout the thread. Cheers
74 ANstar: Interesting, so they are effectively cutting capacity by the 3 x A330 services as there are no new BNE-SIN flights. I reckon the QF group witll drop t
76 ANstar: That Oneworld logo is hideous... Talk about a botch job
77 The Coachman: Yes, because you've ignored what I've written. The plane itself is too heavy for the mission. The A330 is a cheaper plane to operate on such 7.5 to 8
78 ZK-NBT: What happened to your proposed daily BKK-MEL-AKL? TG is renouned for changing their minds, I think the the main reason for considering AKL via OZ is
79 DavidByrne: There are MANY factors which will determine whether an operation is viable aside from landing weight and acquisition cost. And even though the Philip
80 FlyboyOz: When I flew on a QF763ER, it has a new safety video. In the new safety video, it has a new safety card with a new QF logo and layout but same pictures
81 Pilotdude09: From April 1 Skywest will fly Karratha-Carnarvon-Geraldton 3x Weekly with a Fokker 50. This will be a great service, can go to Geraldton and live ther
82 747m8te: It would be great to see Skywest offer a Karratha-Broome-Darwin link with the Fokker 50 (or was there in the past???). When I was in KTA, I knew quit
83 Pilotdude09: QF used to have PER-KTA-BME service with the BAE 146 and i don't know why they stopped it, i'm the same everyone i know drives to Broome or Exmouth a
84 Carnoc: In other news: Airservices Australia and Qantas will start the trial of RNP-based take-off and landing procedures at Adelaide Airport (ADL) in April t
85 FlyboyOz: There's a new QF safety video in youtube. Here is a link below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_8J38YwE6M It's interesting to see what users say abou
86 FlyboyOz: QF has reduced a little amount of inflight meal... - Bottles of water to small cups of water - Bun to biscuit with a slice of cheese Has anyone notice
87 Ditzyboy: Are you talking about Perth Cityflyer? You get both the bread roll and the cheese and crackers. The salad went about two years ago. The water has alw
88 Flyjetstar: Yes I saw it at SYD on Saturday and didn't like it either. The Star Alliance livery looks much better, much more striking esp. the tail.
89 FlyboyOz: Nope... I am talking about SYD-BNE Cityflyer - short dinner flights. Yes...I flew on it two weeks ago, it had bread roll, water bottle and small choc
90 The Coachman: Oh I know that! I was just targeting the particular factors of 772 v 333 on the route. Whether an operation is viable starts with a market - and I re
91 Aerokiwi: Weren't the 772As that SQ got lighter and had derated engines than your standard 772-ER? I know they're probably still not as light as the A330, but
92 Alangirvan: Question about International catering - I will be travelling QF CHC-SYD-SIN, and I am hoping that Mr and Mrs T Spicy Tomato Mix is still on board. Fi
93 Ditzyboy: Domestically, if it is loaded in Economy it is by error. Most crew will ask the Business operators / Manager if it is OK to take some from the very s
94 Flyboysp: It looks like QF have reduced some of it's international fuel surcharges. Qantas to Further Reduce International Fuel Surcharges Latest News Sydney, 0
95 FlyboyOz: Also...Does anyone know that QF has a new checked baggage allowance policy for the domestic? It starts in March 1st 2009 For economy class - from 30kg
96 DJ748: Admittedly, I haven't flown QF much, but when I flew on them from BNE-ROK, and ROK-GLT-BNE in late December, the return flight had only a small cup o
97 ANstar: DJ are eyeing a new Narrow Body Order http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...or-up-to-60-180-seat-aircraft.html
98 LOUMEL: Here's one for the Sydneysiders to choke on over their wheeties... Gist of the story is that a combination of a drop in imports (which usually transit
99 ScandinA340: Even as a Sydneysider, I have to say this is an outstanding achievement for MEL. Not only do they have far greater competition for freight (MEB and A
100 REALDEAL: & if NSW keeps their dodgy govt SYD will keep on sliding & if Qld gets a new govt, things will improve in Qld as well.
101 Anstar: Actually I think MEL should be developed to be the main freight centre. SYD will need tyhe cargo area space for pax soon enough and MEL has oodles of
102 REALDEAL: BNE will have a new runway in a few years & has heaps of room for expansion, unlike SYD. The longer various govts stuff around choosing a 2nd int air
103 6thfreedom: This is what has got me baffled... Given that Melbourne is 24 hours providing total flexibility to freight carriers, has the fastest growth AND will s
104 Airvan00: Because despite what people have said above, Sydney is still a big business centre. The facilities at an airport may be great and extra runways plann
105 Eta unknown: When I was looking after airline cargo, Brisbane flights usually went out empty. Why? Because just about everything is trans-shipped or originating in
106 6thfreedom: This is correct. I also understand MEL generates more outbound than any other australian port, as it's the manufacturing centre of australia, and als
107 Carnoc: Looks like SACL now wants more international flights to be allowed during the 5am-6am period at Sydney Airport. Source: http://en.carnoc.com/list/10/1
108 TruemanQLD: Any why would this be? Have they even released anything about aviation yet? And I was listening to a radio report about how the LNP want to reduce th
109 QF175: Qatar Airways has reportedly cancelled their Melbourne slots... Last I heard they were planning for a August/September 2009 launch, with daily nonstop
110 Eta unknown: QR were recently advertising for a SYD based pax sales manager too for their MEL flights- that would have been a hard sell getting Sydneysiders to tra
111 Cws818: Yes: who should set the airworthiness standards? Or should there be none - after all, that would restrict the freedom of business. So you get rid of
112 ANstar: It makes you wonder how serious they are about that market. Given Etihad are starting MEL also, I wonder if we will ever see QR in MEL.
113 Anstar: Looks like QR snubbed MEL in favour of SYD http://business.smh.com.au/business/...o-fly-to-sydney-20090306-8rfe.html
114 LOUMEL: Good luck to Sydney, and I thought the shaking last night was the earthquake.
115 Carnoc: In other news: Hawaiian Airlines has lowered fuel surcharge on Australian flights, more details available at http://en.carnoc.com/list/10/10140.html R
116 DJMEL: V Australia 777-300ER to appear at Avalon Airshow next week on Friday and Saturday as a Static Display and will be open to the public for viewing.....
117 Alangirvan: Have the V Australia 777-300ER pilots tried flying the plane under the Sydney Harbour Bridge in the simulator yet?
118 Smi0006: I see there is a VA 777 parked in Melbourne at one of the remote stands across from the terminal has been there for about four or five days now, how l
119 ANstar: Both aircraft will be in operation on 20th March when SYD-LAX goes daily.
120 Jetfuel: And VA777 #3 ship must be due fairly soon as BNE-LAX starts April 8
121 Boof: Damn I'll be there Sunday! Why can't friends organise a wedding around the airshow?? I read in last Friday's Australian that QF are bringing an A380
122 Alangirvan: I do not suppose either the 77W or the A380 will be as spectacular as the BA 747 that did a missed approach at the Schofield Air Show in 1979 (thereab
123 Boof: I can answer my own question as finally it has been posted on the Airshow website. The A388 will be Saturday morning only (wouldn't you know it, damn
124 ANstar: I do feel the same. to be honest I wouldn't bother with Avalon again. I went in 2006 and thought it was quite disappointing. I'd much rather save up
125 Jetfuel: The pacific wat to LAX and SFO is in full swing. QF just posted fares under $1000 including taxes to both SFO and LAX. UA is determined to hold their
126 TN486: I agree, there is a sameness about it. I felt the best airshow was when the russians were here along with EADS etc. I left early in 2006, it is looki
127 VH-BZF: Yes I saw it too there the other day and it was still there when I flew in the next day. All I can think is that either there is no room for them to
128 6thfreedom: Both your assumptions are correct... $35 per 15 mins parking at SYD, no charge in MEL. also, no room in SYD.
129 DavidByrne: I think that this once and for all time explodes the myth that the only reason EK flies Transtasman routes is to avoid the parking charges at East Co
130 TN486: QF and EY in a strategic alliance to share reservation codes on selected flights. www.theaustralian.news.com.au/busine...ry/0,28124,25170871-23349,00.
131 Alangirvan: When I have been at Sydney, often in an aircraft, I see lots of international planes parked - they have been towed away from the terminal. Thai, Virgi
132 Alangirvan: Qantas executive general manager John Borghetti described the agreement as a significant strategic development for Qantas. “The United Arab Emirates
133 Boof: Myth is a great word as that is all it ever was. Whilst I'm sure that parking fees came into the decision it has more to do with aircraft utilisation
134 Anstar: I doubt parking fees really come into it. the costs of running the flights would be more than the couple of hundered to be saved on parking.
135 6thfreedom: Didn't EY have sort of interline or codeshare arrangement with Virgin Blue? I guess this spells the end of that arrangement.. Also wonder if this arr
136 TN486: JQ closing their crew base in HOBART eff 1 May. http//news:ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=769992. I would hope all the Tassie based FA's stay with the
137 TN486: my apologies all, try this link. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=769992.
138 ANstar: No reason for the interline agreement to stop. QF interline with THAI and THAI are a DJ interline partner also.
139 EK413: Fat chance... As much as I love the A380 introduction, the A380 fleet have been creating headaches at QF so I don't see the B744 fleet heading into r
140 Gemuser: Not to be too picky BUT Qatar is NOT, politically or geographically part of the UAE. It is separated from them by a fair slice of Saudi Arabia and is
141 6thfreedom: No curfew issues. it's utilisation of the existing BNE-SIN service. out of BNE at 1300, back in 0630 next morning.
142 ANstar: He didn't say anything about QR. He is referring to EY. Etihad. Last time I looked, Abu Dhabi was part of the UAE and EY was based in Abu Dhabi.
144 Tayser: CASA and ATSB changes: http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-n...r-aviation-laws-20090311-8v6g.html Snippet: Australia gets stronger aviation laws March
145 JQflightie: also adding a new FA crew base in OOL for the twice daily Japanese routes Tech crew base in DRW for narrow body Tech crew base in PER for narrow body
146 DJ748: IIRC, QR could only start flights into SYD once they had been flying into another Australian city for 1 year. That city was due to be MEL, but it doe
147 Qantas787: Bugger it Gemuser I normally agree with most of what you have to say but, I don't think he meant QR.
148 ANstar: Suggest you re - read his post below.... EY not QR is quoted. So yes... I say so :p
149 LOUMEL: News that also came out in yesterday's Herald Sun. International flights at Avalon in two years: AVALON is set to become our (Melbourne's) second inte
150 TN486: Did I hear not so long ago that an application for Avalon to become an International airport had been denied. If so, what has changed to make Linfox
151 JQflightie: no way, JQ just cut capacity there..... although being a cheaper alternative to tulla, they wont do it! unless one of those asian carriers that the a
152 JQFlightie: NBN News in Newcastle have reported that NTL airport will become international by next year. I have been told by our ground staff that its DJ that are
153 EK413: Cheers... Yes I was refering to QF's agreement with EY not QR... EK413
154 777ER: Kiwi kitset catches Aussies' eyes A New Zealand kitset aircraft is being considered as a military trainer. The high-performance Furio sports aircraft
155 Gemuser: Sorry EK413 for some reason I read EY as QR! Gemuser
156 6thfreedom: Melbourne Airport has just announced Qatar Airways services. as it has a seperate thread, perhaps best to discuss there: http://www.airliners.net/avia
157 EK413: Cheers... I let you off this time hehe... I personally feel this is must for QF with "QR" commencing daily services to SYD... EK413
158 Alangirvan: If services between Australia and NZ become domestic, then you will not need international facilities at Avalon to operate to NZ. Ditto Newcastle to N
159 6thfreedom: I don't think you would classify medium haul sectors of 8 hours as back of clock... Back of clock are short haul sectors around the 4 hour mark, whic
160 Alangirvan: Most of the flights into MEL arrive at 2300 and return to KUL at 0045. I may have used the term back of the clock inaccurately, but I was referring to
161 Smi0006: Fantastic news for Mel that QR are going to be starting down here around December, Melbourne will have received a surprising increase in capacity rece
162 Gardermoen: Good news from the Virgin Blue web site. http://www.virginblue.com.au/AboutUs.../NewsandPressReleases/P_008097.htm Melbourne-Darwin is back on again,
163 Ditzyboy: As per the press release you have provided a 737-800 has been 'committed' to the new DRW flights.
164 Gardermoen: As per the press release you have provided a 737-800 has been 'committed' to the new DRW flights Ah yes - silly me. Excuse my Thursdayitis.
165 LOUMEL: Yes you are correct, the initial application was rejected. This one is (apparently) more thorough and also involved community 'engagement', all of wh
166 JQFlightie: wont happen until we deffinately have a 787 in front of us on the tarmac, but also our first 787 is getting put on a Japanese route. You'll also find
167 TN486: Now that is news, I was under the impression JQ were still considering their options, with some conjecture on Bangkok. If what you say is correct, wo
168 Ben175: Any news on Etihad or Indonesia AirAsia announcing PER?
169 Smi0006: Oh no the current LAX-SYD-MEL flight has seen a reduction in capacity its now a 777 I beleive or soon will. Thank you for your thoughts they were a p
170 JQFlightie: for EU flying they will be going thru SIN and changing crew, and leaving 2 Australian based crew on the A/C ( CSM & R1P) and will be doing this on th
171 ANstar: That plan has been put to rest. The route will remain 747
172 6thfreedom: I don't think so. Jetstar currently use the main terminals at SIN to allow connections between QF, 3K, JQ, BA etc. I don;t see how this would change
173 JQFlightie: well im not sure, if the price is right then who knows with JQ, is this new LCC SIN terminal connected to the existing terminal? As of next month tho
174 Smi0006: How interesting I would have thought the Aus based crews would have been cheaper than their American counter parts, even with hotel accommodation in
175 JQFlightie: well see we thought we would just be using Australian crew but no! Our first delivery date for 787 is May 2010 and its going to be flighing SYD/OOL -
176 TN486: Thank u I was not aware of that. I thought I read a trip report somewhere that the JQ flight left a LCC terminal enroute to Darwin which led me to as
177 ANstar: that was never a chance... I mean even now the HNL flights seem to be 50% Bangkok crew! Perhaps they will go all 787 before starting any new routes..
178 JQFlightie: we cant wait to get rid of the A330's although we are getting another one soon as we are suppose to be starting the NGO route back up. But it would b
179 JQFlightie: we cant wait to get rid of the A330's although we are getting another one soon as we are suppose to be starting the NGO route back up. But it would b
180 TN486: This decision was made prior to the order for the 787 as it was envisaged that the 787-8 would go to QF when the 787-9 became available to JQ. The cu
181 JQFlightie: lol or should i be writing what a A380 would look like in JQ colours when it becomes the JetstarGroup LOL
182 ANstar: I dount you will start NGO anytime soon. Japan is in the middle of a huge recession and I just can't see it working with the current GFC.
183 JQFlightie: looking to start it back around April/May time from CNS, see before the loads were actually quite good, but it was just the airport's fee's and other
184 6thfreedom: I doubt it too... don't think there is much spare capacity in the widebody fleet.. unless you're talking 2010 or 2011...
185 JQFlightie: i appologise, it was CNS - KIX back sorry all, but we are recieving more A330's towards the end of the year. "We are always looking at many network g
186 Anstar: Interesting.... I'm not sure there is enough of a market to have OOL and CNS flying to KIX.... I've heard NZ loads out of KIX are low.
187 JQFlightie: JQ always had good loads on CNS-KIX, the International crew always wondered why it got cut...no we know... airport fee's!
188 JQFlightie: ok can someone please shed some light on this website.... www.alphajet.com.au AlphaJet is the newest domestic airline of Australia and we are getting
189 ANstar: Loads might be good, but what are the yields like? I'd LOVE for these flights to be operating, but in the current climate and a very bad recession in
190 JQFlightie: who knows with JQ we seem to find away of making things work well....anyway ill believe it when i see it!
191 QF175: With regards to additional A330-200s for Jetstar, I understand the next frame is due for delivery sometime in December 2009 (registration yet to be de
192 QF175: Services between Brisbane and Denpasar commenced late November 2008 after a long period of hiatus. Pacific Blue began nonstop 737-800 services in the
193 ANstar: From memory the loads to POM and HIR were in the 30's and 40's for December. So I would hope the yields were very high to support those loadings. sou
194 TN486: Who did they lease the E90 from (were there 2)??. I noticed NJ didnt want it again as it "didnt fit their business model". I was surprised they knock
195 QF175: " target=_blank>http://www.bitre.gov.au/publications...M.pdf Of course yields are good.. Pacific Blue has a codeshare agreement with Airlines PNG and
196 ANstar: Of course not! I agree that the problems with Skyairworld will only help DJ in these markets... I reckon Air Solomons or whatever they are called wil
197 Vhqpa: This comes up in one form or another almost every 12 months for a few years I wouldn't take it too seriously Vhq
198 JQFlightie: This would explain why i havnt seen SkyAirWorld on Stand-Off Bay in BNE lately... http://www.skyairworld.com/Information/cocos.aspx From April 2009,
199 JQFlightie: To add to the SkyAirWorld talk, why are the interested in 737 pilot's when they fly ERJ190's?? http://www.skyairworld.com/About/Careers.aspx
200 Ditzyboy: SAW were going for some Europe-Middle East(?) contract where 737s were required. I believe Air Amsterdam were the successful party.
201 DJ748: That is so uncanny, and I have a serious case of deju vu - this AlphaJet was previously known as VivaJet. Nothing ever happened with VivaJet, so I do
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