KL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 770 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 34818 times:
I will repost this here:
Quote: Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 198):
German TV: AMS tower confirmes that emergency was decleared prior to crash due to engine problems, airport prepared for emergency landing.
I don't hear this on either of the Dutch channels (NOS / RTLZ). Neither has Schiphol released any other press statements since the short press conference at 1.30 pm, again the airport and the emergency services will provide more details at the next press conference (4 pm local time).
Tobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 669 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 34839 times:
German news magazine (spiegel.de): crash was intended emergengy landing, so they couldn't make it to the airport anymore. Speculative reasons:
Loss of power in 1 oder both engines due to bird strike or running out of fuel
Passenger reports heavy vibrations shortly before crash -- what could this mean?
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Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3764 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 34497 times:
Quoting Cmoltay (Reply 194): Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 173):
The TK press release mentions 7 crew - how does that add up? The Facebook list contains 9 crew members, 4 of those pilots. What would be, by the way, a "PILOT VE" in contrast to a "PILOT"?
Pilot ve murettabat listesi = Pilot and crew list
Kabin ekibi = cabin crew
Thanks. That makes more sense then (should have noted myself that "murettabat listesi" and "Kabin ekibi" do not sound like names). So it is 3 cockpit crew and 4 cabin crew.
I am still astounded why it is still so unclear what has happened to the flight deck crew. I could imagine that it is not easy to talk about the cabin crew if it has escaped the airplane, but it must at least be possible to clarify if the cockpit crew is still trapped in the cockpit and if so, whether they are dead or alive. Just imagine thre stress for their friends and relatives with the information changing almost every other minute or so.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26025 posts, RR: 58 Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 34504 times:
Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 8): it's horrible...one network says crew is dead, some say alive...this is horrible
I know its the not knowing that is the worst for you and the families. Sky News just speaking to a reporter on the scene who said a tent has indeed gone up by the cockpit and showed a photo of dead bodies covered with sheets not far from the overwing exits.
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Beagleboys From Italy, joined Jun 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 34130 times:
Looking to photos of the tail:
it looks like that the "separation area" are in the toilet zone. So, MAYBE the crew that was seating there is alive, badly injured, but MAYBE alive. Obviously if some heavy equipment(ex. boxes) has been pulled off from its position(some engineer maybe can say how many Gs can resist a galley latch) the hopes for them are really low(i remember a colleague has been killed by a galley box that wasn't properly latched during a normal landing).
1. the thing that come out from the fuselage(after the cockpit) can be IMHO a part of the galley that end exactly here.
2. Look at the slide on the open door: it look like it has been disarmed before opening the door. Some suggestion?
As other said: All my condolences and prayers to all the colleague and families of those involved.
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CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1723 posts, RR: 41 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 33736 times:
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Heres an interesting video, though I DO NOT in anyway encourage people to film such footage while driving on the highway. Interesting is one of AMS's fire department's crash tenders is at the spot, while they usually dont go off airport limits IIRC.