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EasyJet Steward 8 Times Over Drink Limit!  
User currently offlineReadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3232 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8170 times:

This from the London Evening Standard today.

EasyJet steward removed from plane after colleagues noticed his erratic behaviour and smelled alcohol on his breath.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...+times+over+drink+limit/article.do

Plane stupid.  Sad


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8044 times:

That must have been one hell of a night out on the town to still be 8 times the legal limit the next day!  drunk 


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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1702 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8050 times:



Quoting Readytotaxi (Thread starter):
removed from plane

8 times over limit, He must be sleeping on the floor in the middle of the aisle.

Read the article he said: "It was a high level of alcohol, but it was a complete misjudgment. Mr Shlyshen had been drinking the night before. He had not taken any on the day of his duty."


So IMO he could bet a new Guinness record if the test had been done the night before. Or maybe ha had been drinking till 23:59 and the flight was at 6:00, I also hate these flights.


""Police arrested Anthony Shlyshen, 48, in front of passengers on an easyJet flight waiting to depart from Gatwick for Belfast after colleagues noticed his erratic behaviour and smelled alcohol on his breath.""

Really a big mistake, if they really did in front of the passengers. who let him go to the plane is this conditions?

Sad news for easyjet and very bad press


User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7888 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 2):
So IMO he could bet a new Guinness record if the test had been done the night before. Or maybe ha had been drinking till 23:59 and the flight was at 6:00, I also hate these flights.

6!? I thought it was 12 at most airlines, it's 12 where I work!



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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1702 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7875 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 5):
6!? I thought it was 12 at most airlines, it's 12 where I work!

It is 12 also for me. For pilots the limit is 0.0, for F/A 0.1 or 0.15 don´t know exactly.


User currently offlineLucky727 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7818 times:

"Anthony Shlyshen" ?!

I can't be the only one to notice the coincidence of his surname!

sloshed: [slosht] S–adjective Slang.
drunk.
Origin: 1945–50; slosh + -ed 2

sloshed: adjective
very drunk [syn: besotted]

as in: "Shlyshen was shloshen before departure" - it even sounds drunk!

L727



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7797 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 6):
for F/A 0.1 or 0.15 don´t know exactly.

I am hoping it is .01 or .015, because .1 is quite tipsy!



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User currently offlineAirbusA370 From Germany, joined Dec 2008, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7757 times:

You were allowed to drive a car with 0.8 for almost 30 years in germany (now it is 0.5). Eight times 0.1 doesn't sound THAT drastic to me...

User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7653 times:

Are there different measurements outside of the US? Maybe this is why I am getting confused. A BAC of .1 here is drunk. This website has a good chart of BAC. From what I remember, if a person has a BAC of .3 or .4, that person in passed out or dead.

http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/general/bac.htm



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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7357 times:

Its flight attendant not steward.  hissyfit 


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User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 720 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7320 times:



Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):

There really seems to be a misunderstanding. In Germany (and as far as I know at least it's neighbouring countries) drunkenness is measured in promille of blood ingredients. 0.3 allows you still to drive a car, 2.0 would be heavily drunk. Your chart suggests that in the US it also depends on your weight.



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User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2010 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6507 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 5):
6!? I thought it was 12 at most airlines, it's 12 where I work!

Varies from airline to airline. Here in the states, the FAA requirement is 8, so no airline or crew can go below that. However, many airlines have gone above it. At my carrier, the limit is 12. At many other carriers it is 10. My dad flies for a carrier that abides by the minimum 8.



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6490 times:

Funny that this thread has received half the number that replied to FR calling someone an idiot. I wonder which is the more important.


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User currently offlinePegasus1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6265 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 12):
Its flight attendant
not steward.

Not in the UK. This was a UK airline, operating from a UK airport and the story was being reported in a UK newspaper, therefore there's no reason US terminology should be used.

For us it's 'steward' or 'cabin crew' - full stop (not period!)  Silly  Big grin


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7570 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6168 times:

AFAIK. a Magistrates Court can only send you down for 6 months.

The fact that this is going to the Crown Court is ominous.

Clearly he is now also an ex employee of U2. Silly boy.

If he was still THAT drunk from the night before, then it must have been some bender.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9335 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5776 times:

.8 is really not that bad, one can still control himself, down a few Fishermans Friends, take a cold shower and that takes care of that. Mr. Schleichen should not have put up such a show.

The legal driving limit in Germany is, as,mentioned, .5 but when they stop you and you show .3 you will not get fined, but Police strongly recommends that another person drives you home, Taxi or friend.

There are people who, with proper training, survive blood alcohol contents of 4.0 and more. This is alsways "per thouand".



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User currently offlineChannex101 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5488 times:

I thought the rule was no drinking 8ft in front of the aircraft? damn!!

UK rules are pretty much standard to EU rules, however if you are operating out of another country you go by their rules and regulations regardless of the origin of your airline or its registration mark, i think its 0.2 in the UK, i could be wrong, however in some places its 0.0 (Finland is one if i recall correctly)

FYI.... you can be 0.1 alcohol in your bloodstream just by using a strongmouth wash!! something else mr easyjet could have protested while in court! lol


User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5488 times:

If he worked for Easyjet I am surprised he could afford to live in Brighton and go out and get drunk  drunk 

User currently offlineNomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5437 times:



Quoting AirbusA370 (Reply 10):
You were allowed to drive a car with 0.8 for almost 30 years in germany (now it is 0.5). Eight times 0.1 doesn't sound THAT drastic to me...

I think there's some miscommunication here. In the US .1 is .1 percent. At .5 you'd be dead. The driving limit in most staes here is .08, not .8.



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User currently offlineFaustino927 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5351 times:

What are these people thinking? I was a flight attendant for 19 years and I NEVER thought about drinking alcohol while working. Ridiculous!


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User currently offlineFlyingclrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5314 times:



Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):
Are there different measurements outside of the US? Maybe this is why I am getting confused. A BAC of .1 here is drunk. This website has a good chart of BAC. From what I remember, if a person has a BAC of .3 or .4, that person in passed out or dead.

No, it's been lowered to 0.08, because the federal government threatened to take away highway funds from states if they didn't lower their limit to 0.08.


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2609 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5314 times:
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Quoting Nomadd22 (Reply 22):
I think there's some miscommunication here. In the US .1 is .1 percent. At .5 you'd be dead. The driving limit in most staes here is .08, not .8.

The key thing is this:

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19):
There are people who, with proper training, survive blood alcohol contents of 4.0 and more. This is alsways "per thouand".

US system (as it is in Australia, and evidently the UK) is based on percentage, or "per hundred", whereas the Germans base their readings on blood alcohol per thousand. Thus, the German 4.0 = 0.4 in our readings. The German legal driving limit of 0.8 is equivalent to our reading of 0.08.



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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1784 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5199 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 12):
Its flight attendant not steward.



Quoting Antonovman (Reply 21):
If he worked for Easyjet I am surprised he could afford to live in Brighton and go out and get drunk

Excuse me? LCC and Charter crew take home pay is often more than new contract Eurofleet crew.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9335 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4765 times:



Quoting Channex101 (Reply 20):
I thought the rule was no drinking 8ft in front of the aircraft? damn!!

yes, I once told a cop I thought I 95 was the speed limit.
 Big grin

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 25):
There are people who, with proper training, survive blood alcohol contents of 4.0 and more. This is alsways "per thouand".

US system (as it is in Australia, and evidently the UK) is based on percentage, or "per hundred", whereas the Germans base their readings on blood alcohol per thousand. Thus, the German 4.0 = 0.4 in our readings. The German legal driving limit of 0.8 is equivalent to our reading of 0.08.

well, that's exactly what I said. The US has per hundred (per cent) and we have per thousand (per mille). But thanks anyway for confirming. Except, you are wrong about the DUI limit, that has been lowered to .5 , if they catch you with .8 you are in for trouble.



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User currently offlineTravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4718 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 12):
Its flight attendant not steward. hissyfit

American political correctness is not de riguer on this side of the pond... formally "steward" or "cabin crew" is used... but most of us punters still say "steward" or "(air) hostess"... nothing pejorative is meant by it... it is just a word... one for boys, one for girls...


25 Spudsmac : Haha I was like "damn" when reading the earlier posts. That clears it up.
26 TheSonntag : With all respect, but if you show any signs of erratic behaviour at 0,3 ./.., you actually commit a criminal offense... I must admit I have driven dr
27 PanHAM : I am not talking about myself, my friend, I explained that the legal limit in Germany is .5 per mille. If however the police stops a driver and takes
28 TheSonntag : I agree, I just wanted to point out that you, at least in theory, can commit a criminal offense below 0,05...
29 Post contains links VV701 : The problem throughout this post is that individual contributors are quoting figures without quoting the units of measurement because of their own fa
30 TDubJFK : Stand-up comedy is not in your future. Steward sounds so much better anyway. I can't imagine why they so militantly insist on 'flight attendant' over
31 Eljonno : Clearly you don't know about the Friday night bar FTSE in Yates!! It's getting back to Crawley that's the problem for us, not the prices in Brighton.
32 GFFgold : One problem with intoxication is, of course, an impossibly optimistic view of your own mental fitness. While some people knowingly drive or turn up fo
33 Readytotaxi : Great information, many thanks.
34 M11Stephen : Steward sounds demeaning and its not the 1960s anymore when steward and stewardess were considered classy terms. If you ever fly on an American carri
35 TravelExec : I know what you say is true in the states, but I am not sure what it is that you guys find demeaning about the word...
36 MAN2SIN2BKK : And in "English" English, the reference to attendant is usually related to someone who looks after the cloakrooms (toilets) or Americans call them "w
37 BFS : I have to disagree with you there. At my airline we still take a little pride in our service, especially when working in business or first class, so
38 TravelExec : In British/Irish English as I speak it, steward(ess) is meant as a respectful term - the word actually recognises the fact that this person has respo
39 VV701 : But this is totally incorrect. The origins of the word 'steward' go back to the Middle Ages. The 'steward' was an official appointed to oversee and c
40 MAN2SIN2BKK : Very good statement
41 HAWK21M : Sad that People in responsible positions don't take their job seriously. regds MEL.
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