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39 Years, 11 Months - Air Jamaica Leaves MIA  
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3332 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8233 times:

After nearly 40 years of service, Airbus A321-211 6Y-JMS operated Air Jamaica's last flight out of MIA, Flight 024 to Kingston, Jamaica. I was granted ramp and concourse access and took video and photos of the whole event, which are uploading as I type.

A model of JM's sole A319 that I made for the occasion. The A321 seems to have been a last-minute substitute.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4533/dsc05977pr1.jpg


The crew of JM 024.




Posing with the signed certificate commemorating JM's final flight into MIA.




JM's MIA ground staff.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3568/dsc06018cx9.jpg


And so, the sun sets on 6Y-JMS and JM's four decades of service to MIA.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8800/dsc06031qf4.jpg


The videos of 6Y-JMS pulling into Gate F9 and of her receiving a water cannon salute on her way out are uploading to YouTube and should be up within two hours or so.

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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8153 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):

Thanks for posting... hopefully the Lovebird will be back!! Would love to see them return with BGI MIA GND MIA Big grin! Seriously sad to see MIA go but the airline has to do what is has to survive so good luck JM!

Regards
BWIA 772



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User currently offlineA340Jamaica From Jamaica, joined Nov 2008, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8130 times:

A sad day indeed. MIA was one of the two original JM routes, the other being of course none other than JFK!!! Hopefully, JM will be back in better times with the right equipment to challenge AA.

User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3067 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8116 times:
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Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):

Thanks for the pics....A service that will be truly missed...

This is a pic of the inaugural flight 39 years ago...





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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3332 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8084 times:

All 121 photos from today (some are also of Concourse F, which I haven't visited in over 10 years):

http://photobucket.com/JM024


User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7940 times:

Wow! Those JM employees look very happy, how odd! I guess these are signs of the times. JM prefers FLL for its lower costs but MIA is a major connecting hub...I guess JM has become a VFR carrier in the South Florida market to quit MIA and stay in FLL. In FLL they face competition from Spirit I wonder how that affects JMs fares. MIA is a prestige destination; that's like flying to EWR instead of JFK or STN versus LHR...does not make sense.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7930 times:
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Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
In FLL they face competition from Spirit I wonder how that affects JMs fares.

AA also operates FLL-KIN daily non-stop. This summer AA will offer 5 daily flights to Kingston from South Florida.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3332 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7904 times:



Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
JM prefers FLL for its lower costs but MIA is a major connecting hub...I guess JM has become a VFR carrier in the South Florida market to quit MIA and stay in FLL. In FLL they face competition from Spirit I wonder how that affects JMs fares. MIA is a prestige destination; that's like flying to EWR instead of JFK or STN versus LHR...does not make sense.

It's not a question of lower costs--it's that JM is flying fuller planes with higher yields to FLL, despite the competition from AA and NK. Broward County also has a higher percentage of Jamaicans living there than Miami-Dade County does, which would also help explain this.

I wouldn't compare it to flying to STN instead of LHR. Maybe LGW. And EWR is in most ways, an equal to JFK. ISP would be a more appropriate analogy.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7872 times:



Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
Wow! Those JM employees look very happy, how odd

That is what I also thought. They are really happy!



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3067 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7843 times:
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Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
JM prefers FLL for its lower costs

Correct..The CEO stated the costs at FLL are 15-20% lower compared to MIA..

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
but MIA is a major connecting hub

Which is beneficial to AA...Their three flights from MIA to KIN carry a substantial amount of connecting traffic..In addition they have a large AAdavantage presence in the Kingston area..

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
In FLL they face competition from Spirit I wonder how that affects JMs fares

The market is large to support all three carriers..Next month there will be between 5 -7daily flights between KIN and FLL....

JM- 4 flights..
AA-1 flight...They also have 3 flights from MIA...
NK...6 days a week..Two flights on Thursday..

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 7):
Broward County also has a higher percentage of Jamaicans living there than Miami-Dade County

Correct...In addition, the Jamaicans who live in Miami-Dade live closer to FLL when compared to MIA..



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User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 639 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7764 times:

Very odd indeed. A flag carrier abandoning its most important station and a world hub for some secondary suburban (mega sprawl) airfield is puzzling. Well then, good luck to you, Air Jamaica, and enjoy the alleged 15-20 % that you think you will save by moving yourself out of your main near-US hub.

User currently offlineA340jamaica From Jamaica, joined Nov 2008, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

I still believe that they have to return when they reorganize. MIA cannot be without competition to Jamaica. The right (smaller E190 anyone?) equipment is needed for sure, but return they must or the fares ex MIA for business will slowly rise, the only tempering force being FLL at some inconvenience away.

User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

Great shots!! It really is surreal knowing JM will no longer be at MIA.I remember the days when you always saw a JM aircraft at the gate,sometimes even two when flying into MIA in the past.


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User currently offlineA340jamaica From Jamaica, joined Nov 2008, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7729 times:



Quoting BW424 (Reply 12):
Great shots!! It really is surreal knowing JM will no longer be at MIA.I remember the days when you always saw a JM aircraft at the gate,sometimes even two when flying into MIA in the past.

Yes, in the past some days there were 6 or 7 flights per day to MIA especially during the busy periods like Christmas. Some of those flights were 250 seater A300 B4 200s. Surreal indeed, their original route!!


User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7713 times:

Man I remember taking an Air Jamaica 727 from MIA for our Senior school trip in '86. Sorry to see such a staple carrier for MIA go.

User currently offlineJmbweeboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7496 times:

Incomprehensible to me JM would give up on Miami. Flew the Mbj - Mia route in August 1969, JM's inaugural year in F class on DC-9-30. The meal for even such a short flight was the best!

JMBWEEBOY


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7214 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):

Excellent work. Great photos. Thanks for posting.

Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
Flight 024 to Kingston, Jamaica.

I last flew on JM 024 in September 2001 on the ' Spirit Of Portmore '. Though they changed the flight # to JM 2024 last minute to accommodate stranded passengers as a Tropical Storm had resulted in many cancellations that day. It was eventually re-routed MIA-MBJ-KIN. Memories.

Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
The crew of JM 024.

Standing out as usual.

Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
Posing with the signed certificate commemorating JM's final flight into MIA.



Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 1):
Seriously sad to see MIA go but the airline has to do what is has to survive so good luck JM!

Agree.

Quoting A340Jamaica (Reply 2):
A sad day indeed. MIA was one of the two original JM routes, the other being of course none other than JFK!!! Hopefully, JM will be back in better times

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Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 5):
Wow! Those JM employees look very happy, how odd! I guess these are signs of the times. JM prefers FLL for its lower costs but MIA is a major connecting hub...I guess JM has become a VFR carrier in the South Florida market to quit MIA and stay in FLL. In FLL they face competition from Spirit I wonder how that affects JMs fares. MIA is a prestige destination; that's like flying to EWR instead of JFK or STN versus LHR...does not make sense.



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):
Correct..The CEO stated the costs at FLL are 15-20% lower compared to MIA..



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):
Which is beneficial to AA...Their three flights from MIA to KIN carry a substantial amount of connecting traffic..In addition they have a large AAdavantage presence in the Kingston area..



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):
The market is large to support all three carriers.



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):
Correct...In addition, the Jamaicans who live in Miami-Dade live closer to FLL when compared to MIA..

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Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 10):
Very odd indeed. A flag carrier abandoning its most important station and a world hub

Well airlines are in the business to make money, not to have the distinction of flying to a ' world class hub ' . Believe me if the loads/yields of the MIA to KIN route was equal to the JFK-KIN route or even the FLL-KIN route they would still be at MIA. The fact is Cargo operations make money for JM out of MIA and passenger loads/yields are far better at FLL so why not capitalize on your strengths and save while doing so ?

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 10):
secondary suburban (mega sprawl) airfield is puzzling.

That secondary suburban ( mega sprawl ) airfield is where JM makes money in South Florida as puzzling as it may sound to you. Notice the increased frequencies that will be on FLL-KIN by summer ?

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 10):
enjoy the alleged 15-20 % that you think you will save by moving yourself out of your main near-US hub.

It is not an ' alleged ' savings. It is a known fact that it is cheaper for an airline to operate out of FLL than MIA. Don't get me wrong as I am not undermining the importance of the city on Miami as a business, tourist and shopping destination ( and so much more as a matter of fact ) but the majority of Jamaicans in South Florida are closer to FLL. Makes logical and economic sense to me as much as I would have love to see the MIA route remain.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 12):
.I remember the days when you always saw a JM aircraft at the gate,sometimes even two when flying into MIA in the past.



Quoting A340jamaica (Reply 13):
Yes, in the past some days there were 6 or 7 flights per day to MIA especially during the busy periods like Christmas. Some of those flights were 250 seater A300 B4 200s. Surreal indeed, their original route!!

Very true. The A300 was a regular operating as JM 021,020,025 & 024. The A310 also made these rotations.

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 14):
Sorry to see such a staple carrier for MIA go.

Same here but I would by prefer JM to fly FLL-KIN and make money than to operate MIA-KIN with only 30 to 40 passengers. Sometimes even less !

Quoting Jmbweeboy (Reply 15):
Incomprehensible to me JM would give up on Miami.

Its pretty simple....JM makes money from Cargo Ops at MIA and have far better loads/yields at FLL ( which again may I add is a more cost effective airport to operate out of from South Florida ). I may appear to be overly defensive of the MIA axing but I am just being supportive of the cost cutting measures that they have implemented to ensure its survival. At the end of the day FLL makes money for JM. At the moment MIA doesn't. I can also assure you that many JM loyals in MIA will make the trip to FLL to catch the love-bird to take them home when they need to travel so I am really not worried about them shifting focus to FLL.



greenheart
User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7044 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
The crew of JM 024.

That F/A in the middle ... Tootie !!


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3332 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6798 times:

The video of the arrival finally finished uploading: (on the third try)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyn8tyQy_dI


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3332 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6762 times:

Video of the water cannon salute and taxi out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdnPBgic5z8


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6545 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 18):
The video of the arrival finally finished uploading: (on the third try)



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 19):
Video of the water cannon salute and taxi out:

Again thanks for sharing.



greenheart
User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 6231 times:

Sad to see JM leave MIA especially after almost 4 decades of service. Wish them the best at FLL especially if it helps the carrier $$$ wise.

I wonder if AA will add more flights to Jamaica from MIA especially now that they are retiring their A300 fleet soon?


User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 21):
I wonder if AA will add more flights to Jamaica from MIA especially now that they are retiring their A300 fleet soon?

KIN-MIA increased to 4X daily. AA2037/AA 2038. B738.

[Edited 2009-03-01 18:10:18]


greenheart
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5029 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

I would rather see JM leave Miami, than to leave all together. Thanks for the awesome pics! I had no idea what their uniforms look like. They sure look Jamaicaish!!!! LOL! I do like the pilots hats. Reminds me of Pan Am's. Speaking of pilots hats, I thought Pan Am had the best looking hats. Something about white really makes them look sharp.

I have not followed JM that much. Is Michael Conway still running the show for them? I know he went there after National folded.



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5837 times:



Quoting F9Animal (Reply 23):
Is Michael Conway still running the show for them?

Not any more. His stint was very short lived.



greenheart
25 A340Jamaica : That alone is proof that JM or some other carrier will eventually return to MIA from KIN. There is enough MIA specific O&D to support two carriers ev
26 AirJamaica : Agree 100%. FLL is one route you wont see JM abandoning anytime soon. Competition or no competition. Agree.
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