Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Airport Location For UA 737 Photo  
User currently offlineFAT5DEP From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 120 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10801 times:

This is a photo taken of my dad when he was an FO on the 737 back in the late 60's/early 70's. I don't know where it was taken but I wonder if anyone can tell me what airport this is. When he was on the 737 he was first based in ORD and then SFO. At first I was thinking something like MOD or SCK but the tower didn't appear to match. Maybe somewhere back east?

Big version: Width: 2916 Height: 2070 File size: 247kb



Oh, that I had wings like a dove! I would fly away and be at rest.
86 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10745 times:

Can't give you the answer, but in the background, those mountains look like they're somewhere out west. btw, I loved that UA livery, especially on the DC-8 and 747.


fly high, pay low...Germanwings!
User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10734 times:

Mountains???

It is not a major airport, that Control tower is too small for a major departure airport.


User currently offlineSkyHarborsHome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 10601 times:

Tower reminded me of BUR but the background is too sparse and I do not think that hill/mountain matches topography.


Fly CHD!
User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1541 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 10491 times:

Well, it looks like it's somewhere that gets ice and snow. I was maybe thinking PDT? I looked up some pics of PDT control tower. It's different then your pic.

User currently offlineJolau1701 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 10310 times:

I wonder if the fact the plane was christened "City Of Cedar Rapids" is any clue.

User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 10298 times:

Na, does not look like Cedar, just had a look at some pics of the airport and it seems a very flat area, and the control tower looks totally different. I guess they could have upgraded it? But I cant see that hill anywhere.

User currently offlineDUALRATED From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 10171 times:

That "hill" under the 737's wing looks like a pile of dirt related to a construction project or something. It does not look that far from the aircraft at all, and would make sense with all the airport expansion in the 70's.


AIRLINERS.NET MODERATORS SUCK MOOSE DICK!!!!
User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 10148 times:



Quoting DUALRATED (Reply 7):
It does not look that far from the aircraft at all, and would make sense with all the airport expansion in the 70's.

You're right, you'd see other features behind the a/c before that hill, it definately looks like a pile of dirt around 100' off the edge of the ramp.



Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9874 times:

So many airports have undergone massive changes since then.

About the only thing I can say with some degree of certainty is, that a plane had been deiced in that spot sometime before the photo was taken, as noted by the puddle of what looks like glycol on the ground.



Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9832 times:

I am not so sure that is a pile of dirt near the runway. It looks more like a mesa/butte in the distance. Also the airport is small enough that they are using the built in stairs rather than a jetway or ramp stairs. And yes, there were jetways in the 60's.

I think that TUS is a candidate as are a number of other airports in Idaho, Montana, and New Mexico.

Mike


User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9679 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 10):
as are a number of other airports in Idaho, Montana, and New Mexico.

Well as far as a sched trip, UA only flew to BOI in those 3 states at the time, and it isn't here.
But personally, maybe it's only me, but the tower doesn't look like any American designed tower I have ever seen, now or in the past. Maybe in Canada?



"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9546 times:

It is ELKO, Nevada. It is ELKO, Nevada.

User currently offlineFAT5DEP From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9505 times:

I'm going to pull out some of my dad's old logbooks and see what places he went to. I think Elko was one of them. I just noticed the hill now that you guys had mentioned it. Looks like grass then a hill behind it. The tower looks like an octagon shape.


Oh, that I had wings like a dove! I would fly away and be at rest.
User currently offlineAirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9461 times:

Or possibly Ely, Nevada. UA used a 737 on the SFO-RNO-EKO-ELY-SLC run back then.


I'm leavin on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again....
User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9225 times:



Quoting AirlineBrat (Reply 14):
Or possibly Ely, Nevada. UA used a 737 on the SFO-RNO-EKO-ELY-SLC run back then.

It's not ELY. I used to fly there pretty regularly.



Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9198 times:



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 11):
but the tower doesn't look like any American designed tower I have ever seen, now or in the past. Maybe in Canada?

UA only served YVR and YYZ then (their only international routes at the time) and it's definitely not either of those airports as they were then.


User currently offlineGeneW From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9100 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Cross Elko off your list as well. EKO did not have a tower when UAL flew in there. Maybe the flight was a charter to somewhere. I don't recall seeing that type of tower anywhere in the continental U.S.

User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1541 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9047 times:

My second guess is GJT. There are large mountains all around the airport. Maybe this is the old terminal?

User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2473 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8940 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 12):

It is ELKO, Nevada.



Quoting AirlineBrat (Reply 14):
Ely, Nevada

Nope and nada. And not GJT either.Did any European airlines fly this particular plane at anytime ? And perhaps they did in UA paint scheme. Just an additional thought.



"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8580 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8919 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 19):


Nope and nada. And not GJT either.Did any European airlines fly this particular plane at anytime ? And perhaps they did in UA paint scheme. Just an additional thought.

bonus points for thinking outside the box ... but the OP mentioned that the FO in the photo is his father , I am pretty sure that if his father had been seconded overseas the OP would have been aware of it .



Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8716 times:

Hmmm.. this is a fun one, actually. Only problem is, none of us will know when the right answer is given!

OK, my next couple of guesses are: Merced, Visalia or Modesto CA. ?


User currently offlineFAT5DEP From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8715 times:

Yeah, he didn't mention anything to me about flying overseas back then. A logbook I have from 76 shows both domiciles.

Destinations originating from ORD:

MSP DTW DCA ORF ATL CLE CRW YYZ PIT TOL

GRR LAN PHL BUF ROC MLI JAX YNG CAK SBN

LGA MBS CMH PVD FNT FWA

Destinations originating from SFO:

PDX EUG MOD SCK MRY LAX BFL VIS SBA PDT

MFR MCE BOI


I think we can check off the obvious ones. Ship 9111 is identified on only one page of this logbook which includes GRR, MBS and CLE.



Oh, that I had wings like a dove! I would fly away and be at rest.
User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 2779 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8636 times:

Based on those locations from the last post, I'm guessing it's MBS.

I'm thinking that in the many years since that picture two big changes have happened to the terminal. First, the tower cab was removed and renovations made to the second level of the terminal. Second, rectangular pieces were added to attach jetways to the building. If you ignore the rectangular pieces and look at the older, lower level structure in this picture, and slap a coat of white paint around the top, it is a pretty close match.





It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.
User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 8569 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 23):

Perhaps......I was leaning toward the orginal terminal at Flint(FNT).
safe



If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
25 Isitsafenow : [quote=TDubJFK,reply=12]It is ELKO, Nevada. It is ELKO, Nevada. UA did not fly jets to Ely or Elko in the late 60's-early 70's. I have a April 1969 UA
26 Post contains images Alias1024 : I never saw the old terminal at FNT. Is this it?
27 Caspian27 : I also used to fly to MCE and VIS regularly and neither of these airports look like the picture.
28 Post contains links MtnWest1979 : http://bp0.blogger.com/_NtgXlrcvXZA/...IRPORT+-+PLANES+-+NICE+-+1950s.jpg Okay, here is my final idea. Toronto ( pic in 50s) assuming 737 pic late 60s
29 MtnWest1979 : And also, maybe it was his first trip out of USA flying UA 737 and that seems a picture-worthy event, more so, I'd say, than trip into CLE, MBS, or an
30 TSS : Could the black ramp truck in the background be a clue? It's a 1970 or later International Scout, sans roof and doors (size and shape make it either a
31 Sparky35805 : That paint scheme dates the photo to at least 1974.The scheme wasnt around long before the red,orange and blue scheme was adopted.I saw 727s and 737s
32 DUALRATED : I think the color of the truck in question is dark blue not black, which makes me think. Are we looking at an Air Force Base? maybe? just a thought
33 TSS : Could be. It seems unusual to me that an airport capable of handling a 737 would have a control tower that's only on the third floor. To me, this sug
34 AirlineBrat : Looking closely at the photo, I am thinking it may be in a region that gets the full brunt of winter including regular changes in temperatures like lo
35 Crownvic : This poor guy wants to know where the picture was taken. Not a bunch of guesses where everyone is just tossing answers into the air. The vehicle does
36 Timz : 1988 A-FD shows no towers at MCE and VIS.
37 Viscount724 : As a sidenote, that photo was taken no earlier than 1972 which is when UA introduced that short-lived "4-star" livery.
38 AirlineBrat : I was born in 1965 and recognize the airport architecture. Midwestern art deco. A classic example is the old PIT terminal. My father worked for UA ou
39 Smcmac32msn : Thank you, lets keep it to realistic, straight guesses on what we've been given. First 2 are in Michigan..... Right now its odds on MBS. No, I'm not
40 KE7JFF : How about Stapleton? That would seem like a match to me!
41 Kiwiandrew : sorry for going off topic , but does anyone have an example of the livery the first UA 737s would have been delivered in - I had always assumed that
42 Post contains links and images Smcmac32msn : View Large View MediumPhoto © Doug Owens Here is GRR terminal in the background that was built in 1964....... definate NO GO. View Large View Med
43 Sparky35805 : Uniteds 737s were delivered in the same basic scheme as the 727s.However the 737s were never called Mainliners.There are several shots of Uniteds 737s
44 Smcmac32msn : Cab of control tower is too square and too high above building. Looks like the original pic has angled walls, Toronto is one long flat wall and also
45 Flaps : I was thinking the same. That tower looks more like a ramp control tower than an ATC tower.
46 Flyabunch : One other small point. I know that I said earlier that it looked like a western airport in one of the mountain states (buttes.mesas), but on further r
47 Post contains links and images TSS : After scouring the web, the closest I came to the rather unusual (both in height and in shape) control tower was the one at Alameda Naval Air Station.
48 Post contains images Smcmac32msn : This is the more the height we're looking for. This is an old army air-base in Swinderby, UK.
49 BN747 : Close...but not quite, your photo shows a two-story structure and the Tower cabs do not match. The tower in the original post is '3 stories' high and
50 GentFromAlaska : The dark blue ladder truck in the background (AF Blue) and the tan/red color of the tarmac leads me to suspect this is a military airport. Going back
51 Isitsafenow : Yepper........thats the old building complete with a Capital(UA June 30,1961) DC4 parked in front. After going over the posts and photos, I can cross
52 FAT5DEP : Oh trust me I love to go on tangents! I think that's what great about threads like this is because a lot of information can surface from just one phot
53 Post contains links Rampart : This was my original guess, too. But, what "mountains" are visible in the OP post are not "large", but it's a very minimal view. I found a picture of
54 Coronado990 : I am also starting to think it is military. I don't see any yellow taxi lines for the hard stand. I would think that a UA station with regular servic
55 TUSAA : That dark colored scout is a beltloader' if you look good you can see the boom sticking up. Piedmont had dark colored ground equipment similar to the
56 Smcmac32msn : Look inline with the cracks, going out from the the OP's dads legs.
57 Post contains links and images Tjwgrr : Looks like it's not MKG. Found these of MKG on an old post here on A.net: Old post referenced: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...7&searchid=3994
58 Contrails : The "mountains" behind the plane look more like mounds of dirt to me. Maybe there was some construction going on at the time - that may help narrow it
59 Jsnww81 : I will join the chorus of folks claiming this is probably a military airport. That control tower design is the strongest clue. I've seen a LOT of pict
60 Timz : UA flew 737s to Elko and Ely starting around 1977-- but far as we know those airports didn't have towers.
61 MtnWest1979 : It is none of above in Oregon or the Central Valley.
62 Isitsafenow : You are correct. At one time in the 70's UA leased a convair from Frontier and flew it into Elko and ELy from Reno. Note the paint scheme on the lead
63 Viscount724 : As mentioned in Reply 37, I believe that livery was introduced in 1972. I don't think it ever made it onto the entire UA fleet before the livery with
64 Post contains images FLFlyer : Okay, having grown up in the CLE area I remember being on the observation deck and seeing this glass enclosure at the end. Ck the pic, at the end of t
65 Post contains images FLFlyer : Not to beat a dead horse-I guess I have too much time on my hands, but here is another shot of CLE with the tower at the end of the concourse.
66 Timz : You're not saying that CLE ramp tower could be the one in the original pic?
67 PVD757 : 100% it is NOT PVD.
68 WestWing : For what it is worth, the tarmac floodlights in the OP's photograph seem to be taller than the height of ramp tower. This is different from the CLE ph
69 Viscount724 : The windows in the tower in the CLE photo also don't have the inward-angle in the upper part as in the original photo. However the CLE photo is proba
70 Post contains images Se210 : Based on the various airports discussed, here's a quick postcard summary of where the mystery UA B737 airport is probably not.... ABE
71 Post contains images Se210 : MBS looks interesting. Note there appears to be 2 terminal areas at MBS. The more modern one at the top of the postcard (as seen in Reply 23) and an a
72 BN747 : Folks, we have a winner! Those bottom two pics are dead ringers! As I pointed out earlier re:the Tower cab design and the number of floors..spot on w
73 Alias1024 : I agree that YNG looks very likely, as long as one assumes that the windows were replaced during the years between postcards in Se210's post and the m
74 Post contains images LHR380 : Here's another YNG shot I have found on the net. It kinda looks the same? Window layout seems to have totally changed if it is.
75 BN747 : Absolutely, the building's windows (glass) must have gone thru several modifications from the era depicted in LHR380's postcard (DC-3s suggest 40s-50
76 LHR380 : That is a very good point lol
77 Birdwatching : I just wanted to say what an enlightening and fun-to-watch thread this has been. And all the classic postcards! I wasn't able to contribute any inform
78 LHR380 : Nor mine, but I chipped in once or twice
79 Sparky35805 : The card with the DC3s was from the early 40s.PCA had went to The Capital Airline titles by the time they started service to HSV in 1944. Sparky
80 DUALRATED : I would have to say YNG is the winner and if you look on google earth on the south east side of the airfield you will see the old tarmac (just south
81 Flyabunch : So the pile of dirt is just that, a pile of dirt and not a mesa or butte as I suggested. I don't mind missing it. As Soren mentioned, this thread has
82 FAT5DEP : Many thanks to all those who commented on this thread. I love the post card photos. Makes me wish I had a flux capacitor.
83 YNGguins : What is all this talk about YNG?
84 Post contains images Se210 : YNGguins Based on the photo that FAT5DEP posted at the beginning of the thread, the Airliners.net community was able to deduce with high probability
85 Post contains images Milesrich : The 737, ship 9111, the City of Cedar Rapids is in the full 4 stars livery that was not adopted until 1973 or 1974. The 737's, 727's and Caravelle's
86 Post contains images Viscount724 : I think it was first introduced in 1972. There are A.net photos dated 1972 with that livery. I think you will find that livery was introduced in 1974
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
The Best Location For An Airport posted Wed Nov 5 2003 03:50:54 by Kevin
LGB Airport Potentialy For Sale posted Mon Jan 5 2009 16:42:37 by LAXintl
Final Routes For UA Convair Prop? posted Sun Oct 12 2008 21:54:28 by N702ML
Reg. For UA's PW2040 Powered 757s And Routes? posted Wed Sep 24 2008 08:39:48 by EA772LR
Long UA 737 Routes posted Mon Aug 4 2008 13:04:56 by Super80DFW
Question For UA'ers posted Mon Aug 4 2008 11:49:23 by ONTFlyer
Use ANA/Hawaiian Points For A UA Flight? posted Wed Jul 2 2008 15:01:05 by DL767captain
Air Berlin Sues Airport Lübeck For LCC Subsidies posted Tue Jun 24 2008 02:44:18 by NicoEDDF
Rant Warning: Hold Times For UA Mileage Plus posted Sun Jun 22 2008 18:59:12 by PA110
UA 737 Fleet posted Thu Jun 12 2008 06:00:46 by ACdreamliner