Andaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5096 times:
Quoting PM (Thread starter): Finaly, the 600th A330 has flown! Best I can tell, it was msn #994, an A330-302E, OH-LTM, for finnair and it flew on 17th February.
That was interesting info, thanks!
The first A333 for AY will start on the HEL-JFK route on 6th April, a couple of domestic flights before that. AY have ordered eight A333's, five of them coming this year, three 2010.
Not necessarily. If all frames between now and #1,018 are built (which isn't a given) then it will numerically be the 1,000th A330/A340 but it may not be the 1,000th off the line (indeed, I strongly doubt that it will) and it will probably not be the 1,000th to fly.
PM From Namibia, joined Feb 2005, 7274 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4173 times:
Quoting Jambrain (Reply 3): How many open engine contests are there on 330?
OK - now back at my own laptop I can give you a better answer. I make it 98.
Air China (20) [almost certainly they'll stick with RR]
Alis Aerolinee Italiane (5)
Emirate (30) [RR must be favourite]
Gulf (20) [RR must be favourite]
Korean (6) [hard to see PW losing this one]
Libyan (4) [Afriqiyah chose GE - should we assume Libyan will too?]
Saudi Arabian (8) [likely to be GE or RR]
Beyond these 98 there are another 50 or 60 ordered by leasing companies who have not yet announced an engine. But RR already has 70% of orders placed by leasing companies so it seems a safe but they they'll pick up a good share of the remaining orders.
RR's current backlog is around 170 compared to 50 or so for PW and no more than 30 for GE.
It's looking likely that RR will get 500 of the first 1,000 A330s with GE and PW splitting the other 500 roughly evenly.
Quoting Ka (Reply 9): Correct: ICAO-code for Swiss.
Wow. Thanks. I thought it was wishful thinking and that SR still lived. Good news.
Knoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4029 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 8): Not necessarily. If all frames between now and #1,018 are built (which isn't a given) then it will numerically be the 1,000th A330/A340 but it may not be the 1,000th off the line (indeed, I strongly doubt that it will) and it will probably not be the 1,000th to fly.
Sorry, I did not get your rationale? According to the aircraft planning of the Long Range Final Assembly Line, MSN 1018 will be the 1000th A/C off the line as in being delivered and all.
At Airbus, we use two ranking systems, the MSN, and the FAL rank. And MSN 1018 has FAL rank 1000.
And in view of the big party we are going to throw for this A/C, I bet you this indeed will be the 1000th A/C to come off the line.
If you want to look for the 1000th Airbus Long Range to take for the skies, or the 1000th to actually go through the doors at Clement Ader factory, then I agree with you it might not be MSN 1018, but I believe we can all agree this Swiss A/C will be the 1000th A330/A340 from Airbus.
No matter what anybody tells you, words and ideas can change the world.
Well, I just wonder what will happen to MSN 996. Will it be built and, if so, will it be built before MSN 1018? Then there's MSN 1004 - the first A330F. When will that be completed? Then there's MSN 1017 - the very frame before #1,000. A340-600s commonly run several weeks (or more) behind A330s and Iberia are talking of deferring A340 deliveries. I'd be very surprised if 1017 is finished before 1018.
Quoting Knoxibus (Reply 11): I believe we can all agree this Swiss A/C will be the 1000th A330/A340 from Airbus.
In the sense that 18 (so far) were never built then history will probably call this plane the 1,000th. No arguments there. But the 600th A330 to fly (see above) wasn't the 600th A330 on the FAL, was it?
Anyway, don't get me wrong. As a long-time RR fan and a frequent flyer on LX I'll be delighted if MSN 1018 gets the honour (and the party!).
But I'm also a pedant and damned if I can do anything about it.