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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

AF are axing Orly-Valladolid but starting Orly-Barcelona, 3xMon-Fri,1xSat,2xSun on a Regional CRJ-100

Also SOU-CDG, operated by Airlinair, is being moved to Orly. This ones seems a strange decision since I would have expected the service to be connections orientated, and beyond French regional destinations Orly doesnt offer many of them. And BE connect many French regional airports to SOU anyway. The new timetable uses a ORY based plane and thus is not very good for day trips to Paris from the Southampton end

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200...nce-new-services-in-09-summer.html
http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200...2/airfrance-drops-3-eu-routes.html


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3576 times:

AF is facing a big drop on its Domestic traffic because of the global recession and the TGV competition. Several frequencies are cut on several routes including the "Navette" (shuttle) to TLS / BOD / MRS / NCE.
But AF doesn't want to give up its precious slots at ORY so has to use them ... hence those "new" flights.

As for ORY-BCN, I think it will be a very successful route and the CRJ will prove to be too small very soon especially if IB pulls out, as announced, from the route and will be replaced by Vueling-Click Air only.

AF inaugurated also recently a new route from ORY : BRN (Bern(e) / Switzerland) with 2 x Daily flights (weekdays). flights are operated by Airlinair for AF with ATR42

Considering the success of the ORY-LCY, AF is studying the possibility to launch more flights from ORY to European Business destinations such as GVA, LIN, FRA targeting O/D business demand and promoting the simple and easy to use ORLY WEST terminal. Moreover, ORY is much closer to downtown Paris than CDG.

[Edited 2009-02-28 12:21:24]

User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3507 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
But AF doesn't want to give up its precious slots at ORY so has to use them ... hence those "new" flights.

I wanted to ask, if AF gives up these slots at ORY, who can use them? Primarily European carriers or would any of the US airlines go for them? Also, could AF, hypothetically, start ORY-HND since didn't AF get authority to do HND service?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3462 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 2):
if AF gives up these slots at ORY, who can use them?

Anyone who applies for them, European or US airlines.
DELTA who plans to open an ORY-JFK flight (already last summer 2008, but that was postponed) would use one of those AF slots.

Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 2):
could AF, hypothetically, start ORY-HND since didn't AF get authority to do HND service?

They could. But AF will fly to HND from CDG, not ORY.


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3456 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
Anyone who applies for them, European or US airlines.



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 3):
They could. But AF will fly to HND from CDG, not ORY.

Thanks for the response!



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3077 times:
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Quoting Humberside (Thread starter):
AF are axing Orly-Valladolid but starting Orly-Barcelona, 3xMon-Fri,1xSat,2xSun on a Regional CRJ-100

Is this finish a consequence of the automobile crisis? I know this flight is operating there due the demand of Renault workers in Valladolid. Any notice about axing flights to Vigo where Citroen has a factory?

Concerning Barcelona flights, must to say that is a great notice. Due the change of airline operating from BCN to ORY (Clickair instead Iberia) will be a lack of Business Class seats on this route as Easyjet nor Clickair has not this service.

Has anyone know if these flights will have "C" class or will operate as the Brit Air flights to LYS?

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

The VLL ORY flights were always available for half miles on Flying Blue, which was an early sign that loads were light...


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