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WestJet Converts Seasonal Flights To Year Round  
User currently offlineTuffer From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 58 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Don't think this has been mentioned yet but Westjet is turning some of its seasonal cities in Mexico and the Caribbean into year round destinations. Some of the new year round routes are:

YYC-PVR 1xweek
YYC-MZT 1xweek
YYC-SJD 1xweek
YYC-MCO 1xweek

other flights out of YVR,YEG,YYZ,YUL were also included. Full press release here:

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2009/26/c4078.html

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User currently onlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4138 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

WS is also starting to add some additional U.S. destinations that are WN heavy such as SAN in anticipation for the code-share to start kicking in later this year.


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2824 times:



Quoting Tuffer (Thread starter):
YYC-PVR 1xweek
YYC-MZT 1xweek
YYC-SJD 1xweek
YYC-MCO 1xweek

One weekly flight to Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta should be fine, but why only 1 weekly flight to San Jose del Cabo. I think Cabo could support at least 3 or 4 flights, don't you think??

I noticed a photo of a WestJet 737 parked at the gate in Cancun. Do they fly there on schedule or was it a charter??

regards


User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Actually, this press release is a bit misleading.
With the exception of Orlando, most of these routes were actually already operated year-round as charters in the summer months anyway.
So, they are not really new flights per se, just being converted from charter to scheduled.


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2501 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
WS is also starting to add some additional U.S. destinations that are WN heavy such as SAN in anticipation for the code-share to start kicking in later this year.

Would love to see a full list of US cities that are in the running for WS destinations.



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2344 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 3):
Actually, this press release is a bit misleading.
With the exception of Orlando, most of these routes were actually already operated year-round as charters in the summer months anyway.
So, they are not really new flights per se, just being converted from charter to scheduled.

My suspicion is that with ongoing aircraft deliveries and a softening economy,WS has to keep up the utilization rate/expansion to generate income,so it may not be a bad idea to add to or maintain these routes year-round.


User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2329 times:



Quoting 9252fly (Reply 5):
My suspicion is that with ongoing aircraft deliveries and a softening economy,WS has to keep up the utilization rate/expansion to generate income,so it may not be a bad idea to add to or maintain these routes year-round.

I agree, but like I said, this is nothing new. In the past these destinations were served weekly as charters, so all they are doing is converting these flights from charter to scheduled. So this isn't really an increase in flying / utilisation. The press release makes it sound like these are "new" flights for the summer, when in fact, they are not. Although the addition of the 1 weekly flight to Orlando from YYC is technically a "new" flight for the summer scheds. Orlando in the summer is stinking hot and humid as well so not my idea of a sun destination in the summer.. standing in line at theme parks when it is 90F+ and 80+ humidity is NOT fun!


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Westjet added its 8th 738 2 weeks ago. 8 more NG's will be added this year resulting in a 2009 YE fleet of 85 (vs 76 for 2008 YE).

So, we are likely see many more route additions to keep these 9 new NG's utilized.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2231 times:



Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 7):
Westjet added its 8th 738 2 weeks ago. 8 more NG's will be added this year resulting in a 2009 YE fleet of 85 (vs 76 for 2008 YE).

So, we are likely see many more route additions to keep these 9 new NG's utilized.

Yup, and it will be interesting to see what those will be. In a declining market, I would assume the pickings are getting fewer and harder to find.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16370 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2215 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 8):
In a declining market, I would assume the pickings are getting fewer and harder to find.

WS remains profitable. All it has to do is go after more AC business. WS's cost advantage will win the day.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5604 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2144 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
WS is also starting to add some additional U.S. destinations that are WN heavy such as SAN in anticipation for the code-share to start kicking in later this year.

I'm not sure how much the anticipated WN/WS agreement has to do with WS's re-entry into the SAN-market this year since San Diego is not a terribly good connecting point on the US-end of the route; the most likely connecting routes out of SAN, such as PHX, LAS, and the Bay-area, have their own WS flights, and people bound for, let's say, ABQ, ELP, and HOU would not likely care to fly all the way to SAN for their connection...) I would think WS would be simply looking for O&D traffic between SAN and Calgary, plus a bit of connecting traffic to other Canadian destinations.

In any case, It will be very interesting to see how WS does with SAN this time. It certainly could be a year-round route as well but I would imagine they first need to make sure the market is viable -- in the summer! (And of course this time around, they will have a daily AC flight competing with them on the route...)

Those of us in San Diego will be watching this particular "contest" with much curiosity!  stirthepot 

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