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DL NRT 777 Flying, How Will It Work?  
User currently offlineSLCPDXATL From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7093 times:

Just wondering how the aircraft routing is going to work on the days the ATL-NRT 777 flight doesn't operate. JFK-NRT 777 is daily, but ATL-NRT 777 is only 4 days a week. The routing is easy to see on the days the ATL-NRT flight operates (the plane from JFK makes the return flight to ATL, and the plane from ATL makes the flight to JFK), but where does the aircraft come from to make up the NRT-JFK flight when the ATL-NRT flight doesn't operate? As far as I know, there is no other 777 flying to NRT.

JFK-NRT DL 3799 1:50p 5:00p daily
NRT-JFK DL 3798 3:25p 3:05p daily

ATL-NRT DL 55 10:25a 1:25p Sat, Sun, Tue, Thu
NRT-ATL DL 56 7:00p 6:55p Sun, Mon, Wed, Fri

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User currently offlineSLCPDXATL From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7011 times:

Correction:

NRT-ATL operates Sat, Sun, Tue, Thu ---- same days as ATL-NRT operates.

Sorry, I'm new and not sure how to edit the original post.


User currently offlineMPDPilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6985 times:

I would imagine that the aircraft will simply make the turns back and forth from JFK to NRT and be rotated out with the ATL aircraft for maintenance when necessary. But I would defer to the other experts on here for the exact answer.


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User currently offlineSLCPDXATL From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6473 times:



Quoting MPDPilot (Reply 2):



Quoting MPDPilot (Reply 2):
I would imagine that the aircraft will simply make the turns back and forth from JFK to NRT and be rotated out with the ATL aircraft for maintenance when necessary. But I would defer to the other experts on here for the exact answer.

But it doesn't arrive from JFK into NRT until 5:00 pm, how can it depart at 3:25 pm when there is no aircraft arriving from ATL?


User currently offlineDxBrian From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

I'm looking at the MAR 2009 schedule for DL. There are no flights between JFK and NRT in the timetable.

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6260 times:
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The last conference call talks about JFK NRT to operate with DL metal whee as ATL NRT operates with NW metal.


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6185 times:

From an earlier thread I recall that the Delta 777-200 that will be upgraded to the JFK-MAD-JFK route will be the same aircraft flying the JFK-NRT-JFK cycle. Essentially the routing of the aircraft should look like JFK-NRT-JFK-MAD-JFK-NRT-JFK.


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User currently offlineSLCPDXATL From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5704 times:



Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):

I can understand that part of it, but it still doesn't answer how the NRT-JFK can depart at 3:25 pm when there is not a 777 in NRT (on the days the flight doesn't operate inbound from ATL) until the JFK-NRT arrives at 5:00 pm. Makes me wonder if there will be additional 777 flying into NRT 3 days a week from somewhere else? Or maybe they just haven't updated the times yet, and the JFK flight will depart later on the days when there isn't an inbound from ATL.


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

Btw, which routes currently use DL 777 featuring the new business class?

Tks,


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9391 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5676 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 10):

Btw, which routes currently use DL 777 featuring the new business class?

ATL-BOM and I have been told on the days they don't have BOM flights they send the 77Ls to DXB. This summer almost every T7 station will see the 77L with lie-flats. (IIRC NRT is the only one that will not)



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User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

I guess the aircraft coming from JFK will stay overnight at NRT: arrive 5PM and leave 3PM next day. That one will rotate to MAD, so not a big loss. "NRT-JFK-MAD-JFK-NRT and stay" routine. Same way, 777 come from ATL will leave for ATL same day, after staying NRT around 5 hours. From ATL, there are many late departure and early arriving 777 routes, so it makes sense. In the meantime, DL can "rotate" NRT based and ATL based aircrafts efficiently.

It's my guess.


User currently offlineUpstateDave From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

Ok... You all ready for this... Based on the schedules, I've compiled the rotations of all 8 airplanes for a week.

Airplane 1:
ATL-NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT(22h25m)NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT-ATL | ATL-(KWI or TLV)

Airplane 2:
| MTC/Rotate | ATL-KWI-ATL | ATL-NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT-ATL | ATL-(TLV or KWI)

Airplane 3:
KWI-ATL | MTC/Rotate (13h30m) | ATL-(DXB or TLV)-ATL | MTC/Rotate (15h55m) ATL-(DXB or TLV)-ATL | ATL-NRT-JFK

Airplane 4:
| MTC/Rotate | ATL-(KWI or TLV)- ATL | ATL-NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT (22h25m) NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT

Airplane 5:
NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT-ATL | ATL-(TLV or KWI)-ATL | ATL-KWI-ATL | ATL-NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK |

Airplane 6:
-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT (13h30m) | NRT-JFK | JFK-MAD-JFK | JFK-NRT-ATL | ATL-(KWI or TLV)-ATL | (39h55m -Next Day - ATL-KWI-ATL) or (15h55m - Same Day - ATL-KWI-ATL)

Airplane 7:
| MTC/Rotate (22h30m) | ATL-TLV-ATL | (40h40m) MTC/Rotate - Could switch to pick up NRT | ATL-TLV-ATL | MTC/Rotate (16hr40m) | ATL-TLV-ATL

Airplane 8:
SPARE - Does 2 ATL-TLV-ATL in a week

****Note, there are junctures that I found where I could have turned multiple ways (i.e. the TLV/KWI segments and which way they rotate to NRT.

****MOST IMPORTANTLY - Having a spare aircraft, any of the ATL opens the opportunity to the routing for MTC concerns and what not.


There ya have it! Any schedule geeks interested in how I did it can PM me and I will send the excel doc.
-Dave

P.S. - Seems like the long sits in NRT 3 days a week, are a perfect chance to take the 777 and send it to SIN or another Asia destination.

[Edited 2009-03-02 21:04:44]

[Edited 2009-03-02 21:05:15]


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User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2093 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3811 times:



Quoting UpstateDave (Reply 13):

What about the JFK-TLV route?


User currently offlineUpstateDave From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

It's a 767 during the sample month of July. Note in June, JFK-NRT is running, but MAD is still 767.


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3277 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 11):
ATL-BOM and I have been told on the days they don't have BOM flights they send the 77Ls to DXB. This summer almost every T7 station will see the 77L with lie-flats. (IIRC NRT is the only one that will not)

But end March the only destination with the lie-flat seats is BOM, correct?

Tks,


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