LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 46 Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10149 times:
It is being reported by Livemint that AI plans to offer SFO-DEL non-stop using B772LR. The flight is expected to start after Aug. 2009. SFO has the second largest Indian American population, and it should be able to draw a small chunk of LAX-DEL O&D traffic.
This will be the third non-stop by AI; It currently offers two non-stops: BOM-JFK and DEL-JFK.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10135 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 1): Damn, that's going to be a long flight. Would be great to see, though. I'd imagine the Silicon Valley crowd wouldn't mind having a direct flight to India (even if it's BOM and not BLR).
actually according to the OP it is DEL
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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28458 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10115 times:
Best quote of the article
Quote: Air India says it is hopeful its non-stop flights will do much better.
For Air India's sake I hope so, as their LAX service was a disaster from the begining.
Between the constant delays, bad press(does not help when you abandon a plane load of folks at LAX for 24hrs on their own), and upset travel agent community, they were almost run out town.
Only good thing about AI's LAX flght was that they nearly always were the cheapest in the market -- often by a few hundred dollars.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1934 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9935 times:
EK must have been pulling in a significant number of SFO/LAX-DXB-India pax. This is almost certainly a response to that. I wonder what Kingfisher and Jet Airways' responses are to this very challenging route.
Next, AI should explore SEA. Large Indian community there would make it work. It would be better for AI to explore that market NOW before EK/QR/EY or even Jet beats them to it.
I would have suggested IAH but it's too crowded (QR, EK, DL, CO, BA and AF).
Gr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3204 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9396 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 1): I'd imagine the Silicon Valley crowd wouldn't mind having a direct flight to India (even if it's BOM and not BLR).
It makes sense to operate the flight from a point where maximum number of passengers can travel / connect.....I guess Delhi makes sense for AI as they can easily connect passengers to other points in India.....the Indian population in SFO area is quite mixed and not just comprising of people from S.India alone....
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9212 times:
Quoting Ojas (Reply 11): SYD can be done with the B77W, that is right. AI is supposedly getting 4 LRs in this summer. Given that 2 will be for SFO, the other 2 maybe for SYD or who knows ORD may go non stop.
Looks like AI is working on FRA as a hub, with DEL-FRA-ORD, and BOM-FRA-EWR as the first two flights.
I would think DEL-IAD may work as United can provide decent feed. Another possibility is YYZ-DEL, another Star Alliance hub. How about making DEL a hub for non-stop flights to NA with immediate connections to other cities in India.
From the link in OP, Quote:
Four Boeing 777-200LR planes will join Air India's fleet between July and September. Three more Boeing 777-200ER will join by August.
"We are working on a schedule where Frankfurt will act as a hub," said Bhargava, adding it is yet to be decided if the German airport will become its permanent European hub. Air India's new flights to Chicago from New Delhi will touch Frankfurt as will also a Mumbai-Newark flight.
Atomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 567 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9140 times:
Quoting Ojas (Reply 7): AI is going to start BLR-DEL-SFO. AI has no plans as such to start a BLR-SFO non stop. The other 2 LRs in most probabilities will be used to start SYD.
So the flight will be nonstop to DEL, and direct to BLR? That sounds pretty reasonable. I wonder what fares will be like. Part of me wonders if it will really happen though, as AI and IT had both been rumored to start service to SFO for the last several years now, and nothing materialized. Anyway, I hope it happens, and I'm looking forward to seeing a second 77L serving SFO!
Smi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1711 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8965 times:
I must confess I would have thought that the 77W would have been to big for Sydney, Would have thought perhaps a reconfigured 330 from IC may have been better. Are they lickly to abuse the range abilites of the the 777LR just for it's size untill a truly ULH route/market devlopes.
Actaully come to think of it has there been much right sizing by way of reallocation of the fleet between IC and AI?
Legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8913 times:
With the current economic problems, more and more Indian H1B/L1 are returning home. Granted, there is still a sizeable population in the Bay Area but I forsee a slow down in the VFF market.
Hopefully AI has learned from 9W's mistake on their India-SFO route. Their main competitor will be EK on this route. Especially when EK goes daily in May. If they offer a good product and competitive prices, they may make it work. IMO.
YVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8653 times:
Quoting Smi0006 (Reply 17): I must confess I would have thought that the 77W would have been to big for Sydney, Would have thought perhaps a reconfigured 330 from IC may have been better. Are they lickly to abuse the range abilites of the the 777LR just for it's size untill a truly ULH route/market devlopes.
Well, considering QF just dropped its SYD-BOM nonstops (now routing through SIN and now originating in BNE), I would say the SYD-India market is not too viable right now. I reckon the 77W would be too large for SYD service unless of course we have another Southeast Asian stopover point.
I know they were considering DEL-FRA-YVR as well, but that got canned before it was even announced. I am sure eventually that ONE day they will actually see an Indian airline in YVR.
Perhaps if the SFO-DEL flight doesn't perform as well as expected, a SFO-YVR-DEL routing may work a few days per week. Don't know about the 5th freedom capabilities AI would have on SFO-YVR, but the routing is almost a straight line (7706 miles nonstop; 7734 miles via YVR).