Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 7210 posts, RR: 7 Posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3467 times:
As I turned onto Millbrae Ave this afternoon around 1540 PST a jet passes low overhead southbound: an MD-11, so likely KLM: possibly a go-around, but if they're on time they've gotta be departing: sure enough, turn on the radio and they're on 120.9 getting cleared to Sacramento on their way to AMS.
Well, well-- some entertainment to come. I assume KLM departed 19L, but that's still rare enough for heavy jets. For those that aren't familiar, the ridge south of the airport is 1800 ft above the field where the runway centerline crosses it, just under 6 nm from the south end of the runway. The departure calls for an immediate left turn, no specified heading but intercept the SFO 090 radial, so I guess they typically turn to 040 or some such.
Eventually I hear AA 1456 (M83 to ORD), DL 620 (757 to JFK), UA 186 (A319 to PHL), NW 221 (753 to HNL) and AF 83 (A343 to CDG)-- they're all sitting out at the west end of the runways 10 waiting for the gusts to drop. The wind is 180-190, 27 to 30 knots with gusts 35-40; visibility must be 20 miles plus, no clouds below 6000 ft anyway. Landings on both 19s, departures on both 19s-- here comes NCA 138, 744 to ORD-- he departs 19R. Emirates 226 calls tower, says they're ready-- tower is surprised, gives them the wind, says you're ready? Affirmative-- they line up on 10L and wait for a few minutes for a gap in the arrivals, then off they go to Dubai -- via J1 to SEA, says the Flightaware plan.
Skywest 5918 (CR7 from YEG) approaches 19L-- 100 ft over the threshold I notice they're pretty nose-down-- sure enough around they go. The aircraft that just departed 19R is now a mile or two south of the field heading east and turning back to intercept the radial, so we have a definite awkward situation here. Initial heading 090 for Skywest, climb to 3000, you have the traffic in sight?, maintain visual separation. Skywest says they lost 30 knots (I think he said 30, but tower advised subsequent arrivals of a report of a 20-knot loss, so maybe I heard wrong).
AA 1456 calls tower and asks if gusts are dropping at all-- no joy-- back to the gate. DL 620 likewise. AF decides to head over to 19L and eventually gets out of town-- tower gave him wind 180 at 27, gusts 37 when he cleared him for takeoff. Skywest reappears; this time they report a 10-knot increase at 500 ft.
FlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3347 times:
I would have enjoyed seeing that. I can only imagine how foreboding the view from the flight deck looked while in position on 19R and L. At 7500 and 8648 that must look very short no matter what the performance charts tell you!
A couple weeks ago at IAD they were landing ILS 1R circle to land 30 due to strong winds favoring 30. If you look at the airport diagram you will see that this approach cuts across the 1C (former 1L). I have only seen one arrival like this and that was 15 years ago (I don't work there - only travel to/from frequently). That night nearly all of them took the option.
SeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7222 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3314 times:
Quoting Timz (Thread starter): Emirates 226 calls tower, says they're ready-- tower is surprised, gives them the wind, says you're ready? Affirmative-- they line up on 10L and wait for a few minutes for a gap in the arrivals, then off they go to Dubai -- via J1 to SEA, says the Flightaware plan.
I would have *loved* to watch that big, fully loaded 77L take off into such a strong crosswind. I suppose you can't be everywhere at once, though...
OH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3191 times:
I arrived on UA901 FRA-SFO today, and we were almost set for landing on the 10s but then we made a left turn and flew over the San Bruno Mtns and AF Airlines (Argentina)">SF before making a sharp right turn getting an awesome view of Treasure Island and Yerba Buena Island before flying over the closed Alameda Naval Air Station and came in to land on 19L. It was only slightly bumpy, but with the heft of the 747 it wasn't getting tossed around like a lot of smaller planes. I saw AF on the taxiway on the bay side of the 19s, and they departed on 19L just as were taxiing parallel to the 10/28s towards International G. It was a sight to see
Head in the clouds... yet feet planted firmly on the ground.