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Captain Ian Wilkinson Question  
User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1145 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10030 times:

Just wondering where Captain Wilkinson is these days. The last we all heard he was dismissed from Cathay Pacific for doing that absolutely amazing fly by at Boeing Field. I was stunned by that one. Dangerous yes, but what an amazing stunt. Hats off to Capt. Wilkinson for that one. Did he retire or is he working ffor someone else? If I had a private jet I would not hesitate about hiring him as my chief pilot. I am sure many people think the same and he is back at controls.

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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25852 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10017 times:



Quoting Kevin (Thread starter):
Dangerous yes, but what an amazing stunt.

So you think pilots should be doing dangerous stunts with passengers on board, as they were on that flight, with a piece of equipment worth $250 million?


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9993 times:

Show me where it says those passengers were in any danger.


What now?
User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9968 times:

Quoting Kevin (Thread starter):
Just wondering where Captain Wilkinson is these days. The last we all heard he was dismissed from Cathay Pacific for doing that absolutely amazing fly by at Boeing Field. I was stunned by that one. Dangerous yes, but what an amazing stunt. Hats off to Capt. Wilkinson for that one. Did he retire or is he working ffor someone else? If I had a private jet I would not hesitate about hiring him as my chief pilot. I am sure many people think the same and he is back at controls.

As a lot of us keep saying, onboard mgmt should have walked as well.

There were no passengers.

Edit: to decide to say no more as I do not know where he is now, and the issue just makes me angry, so best I self censor.

[Edited 2009-03-02 22:19:39]

User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9919 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 1):
So you think pilots should be doing dangerous stunts with passengers on board, as they were on that flight, with a piece of equipment worth $250 million?

There was no danger to begin with. I am not saying that pilots should do anything dangerous when people are onboard. Plus that was a delivery flight, not a regular commercial one and AFAIK that stunt was approved by whoever was onboard.

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 3):
As a lot of us keep saying, onboard mgmt should have walked as well.

True. I mean a pilot who knows there is a CEO onboard would never do anything liek hat without CEO's approval.


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25852 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9564 times:



Quoting Swiftski (Reply 3):
There were no passengers.

I seem to recall reading that there were a number of non-revenue passengers apart from the crew on the delivery flight? Did I misread that? Wasn't the airline's chairman part of the group?


User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9552 times:

Sorry guys I must have missed this one, what happened?

User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9507 times:



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 6):
Sorry guys I must have missed this one, what happened?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ijLu2HzvI


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9507 times:

There have been plenty more spectacular fly bys in aviation which instead of being looked down upon by the airline (and might I add you lot), have been embraced and congratulated. This whole incident was very unfortunate and angered a great number of people in CX, especially his 'boys' on the 777.

I hear he is well and flying a 777 out in the Middle East.


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25852 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9493 times:



Quoting EDICHC (Reply 6):
Sorry guys I must have missed this one, what happened?

CX 77W made a very low flypast down the runway after takeoff on its delivery flight early last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bp2V-rEnsY

AC's first 77W also made a flypast before landing at YUL on its delivery flight but at a significantly higher altitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eMFGkF8csk


User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9464 times:



Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 8):
I hear he is well and flying a 777 out in the Middle East.

Good for him. One hell of a pilot. As I said before, I am sure he was overwhelmed by the anount of the job offers as soon as he was unemployed. Best of luck to him!


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12565 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9231 times:

CX has very high operational standards, but its relationship with its pilots must be among the worst in the industry, not helped by the "forty niners", the 49 pilots sacked by CX in 2000*, because they were seen as troublesome; they included a significant number of union representatives and negotiators.

CX has major IR issues and it will not achieve its potential as an airline - which is very considerable - if it doesn't address this.

(*12 of these pilots were subsequently re-hired, but many have been taken to Court and only in the last week, they won their first case against CX in the HK courts).


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9004 times:

Why did he get fired? For not telling those on board that he was going to do a low fly by??? Someone said the CEO was onboard, so I'm guessing he wasn't impressed by the stunt.


Giants football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8928 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 12):
Someone said the CEO was onboard, so I'm guessing he wasn't impressed by the stunt.

Actually it was the Chairman who was on board, not the CEO. After the delivery flight, management in their weekly staff update proudly showed the photos of the event saying how impressive it was. Soon after, things did a 180 and suddenly they were not so impressed. Rumour has it that this directive came from the top, above Flight Ops management...and who from the top was on board?

Rumour also has it that although job offers did not fly in (Thats not how the industry works), one offer he got was subsequently retracted after management there spoke to management here. There has long been a reputation here that if you leave under bad circumstances that management will not exactly make it easy for you. In the past some pilots after being terminated have found that someone has tipped off banks who have then cancelled credit cards on the premise that the pilot is now jobless and is no longer entitled to one.


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