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Allegiant Announces MYR: HTS Plus One More City  
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5130 times:

I guess we just had to be patient.

Allegiant announced service to Myrtle Beach from 2 cities will start April 30.

Today they announced Huntington WV.

The other city will be announced Wednesday.

http://www.allegiantair.com/aaNews/aaNews20090303a.php


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Myrtle Beach is a natural extension of G4's network.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

MYR makes sense for G4. Does anyone think that they'll be in competition with DirectAir? If they are, G4 should give serious thought to upgrading their fleet. A rather spartan MD-80 vs a VX Airbus is a pretty easy decision.


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User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 888 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5066 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Does anyone think that they'll be in competition with DirectAir? If they are, G4 should give serious thought to upgrading their fleet. A rather spartan MD-80 vs a VX Airbus is a pretty easy decision.

There are PLENTY of destinations DirectAir doesn't fly that Allegiant can choose from. Also, 99.9% of the population doesn't even consider what kind of aircraft they're going to be riding on when purchasing a ticket as long as the price is right. Someone from HTS should be happy just to be riding on a mainline sized aircraft..and not having to connect at a hub.

[Edited 2009-03-03 07:32:31]

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5046 times:



Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 3):
There are PLENTY of destinations DirectAir doesn't fly that Allegiant can choose from.

That's what I had figured they would do. The thing is though that both DirectAir and Allegiant have very low prices so that aircraft may actually play a part in the decision, if people care enough to find out. I imagine a lot don't but some (like many of us) certainly do.



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User currently offlineMetJetCEO From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

I dont think it is the aircraft type that people know. What they will think of is IFE systems in nice seats vs what Allegiant has to offer. I also think the "hidden fares" will be a deciding factor outside the base ticket price.

User currently offlineMetJetCEO From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5009 times:

In addition, when you look at Direct Air's network...the one city they need to be very cautious of is RFD, as Allegiant has moved towards making RFD a mini hub in its own right.

User currently offlineGeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4949 times:
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I am hoping they announce KPSM(Portsmouth N.H.). SkyBus did well on their flights to and from KPSM.

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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

I'm a big fan of Allegiant and what the airline is doing and far be it from from me to question their strategy, but does Huntington, WV seem like an odd city pair to initiate service from MYR ?


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User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 888 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4933 times:



Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 5):
I dont think it is the aircraft type that people know. What they will think of is IFE systems in nice seats vs what Allegiant has to offer. I also think the "hidden fares" will be a deciding factor outside the base ticket price.

But, once again, do passengers really think of these things when purchasing a ticket. I'd think for the most part they find the lowest fare and go with it, and then at the airport they are "plesently" surprised by all these additional charges. Also, HTS-MYR isn't that long of a flight, they can survive without IFE.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4871 times:



Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 6):
In addition, when you look at Direct Air's network...the one city they need to be very cautious of is RFD, as Allegiant has moved towards making RFD a mini hub in its own right.

That and they face competition from Spirit flying ORD-MYR daily. (I think)

Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 9):
But, once again, do passengers really think of these things when purchasing a ticket.

Probably only if the airline points this out in the marketing. Also probably by word of mouth. If I were a small up and coming airline, I'd be using any advantage I could find over my competitors.



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User currently offlineMetJetCEO From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4854 times:



Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 9):
But, once again, do passengers really think of these things when purchasing a ticket. I'd think for the most part they find the lowest fare and go with it, and then at the airport they are "plesently" surprised by all these additional charges. Also, HTS-MYR isn't that long of a flight, they can survive without IFE.

Im not sure if they think about it the first time, but it will become known through word of mouth, marketing and affect return customers.

Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 8):
I'm a big fan of Allegiant and what the airline is doing and far be it from from me to question their strategy, but does Huntington, WV seem like an odd city pair to initiate service from MYR ?

If you think about it all of their pairs sound odd, however I think it plays into their "if you build it the passengers will come" mentality.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4657 times:



Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 11):
Im not sure if they think about it the first time, but it will become known through word of mouth, marketing and affect return customers.

But it only makes a difference when there is nonstop competition on the same route.

Allegiant currently has nonstop competition on only a couple of routes.

So miles, IFE, etc don't enter into very many of the passenger decisions. Heck they've even outlasted nonstop competition from NW and US and other airlines on other routes.

Instead passengers will be concerned about fares and nonstop vs. connections.



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently onlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4602 times:



Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 8):
I'm a big fan of Allegiant and what the airline is doing and far be it from from me to question their strategy, but does Huntington, WV seem like an odd city pair to initiate service from MYR ?

CRW has had MYR charters for a few years, sometimes on 737's so they might draw from that demand some.



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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Could G4 be thinking of EWN (New Bern) since they dropped ISO (Kinston)? They could offer 2x weekly service to SFB at a minimum.. just saying..


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User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 511 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4489 times:

YNG had flights to Myrtle Beach with Vacation Express a few years back. Loads were 75% or so.


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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4425 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10):
That and they face competition from Spirit flying ORD-MYR daily

Unless Spirit has started something in the last year to ORD, I don't think so. I do believe that Mesa was running flights for UAX to IAD and ORD for awhile, but I thought that ORD had been dropped?

Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 8):
I'm a big fan of Allegiant and what the airline is doing and far be it from from me to question their strategy, but does Huntington, WV seem like an odd city pair to initiate service from MYR ?



Huntington, WV was an original destination of a carrier that started service in conjunction of service with Direct Air. If memory serves me correctly, the operator was scheduling service CVG-HTS-MYR and was then delayed due to sluggish demand. Eventually, I believe they began operating some sort of flights but with an RJ sized aircraft.

Interesting side-note is that Huntington is where one of the partners/owners has their own call center for reservations for Direct Air.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4412 times:



Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 16):
Unless Spirit has started something in the last year to ORD, I don't think so. I do believe that Mesa was running flights for UAX to IAD and ORD for awhile, but I thought that ORD had been dropped?

I keep hearing radio commercials for NK service from ORD to MYR. I have to listen more closely next time, but I think that they said it was daily. What I dont know is if it is seasonal or not.



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User currently onlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4399 times:



Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 16):
Huntington, WV was an original destination of a carrier that started service in conjunction of service with Direct Air. If memory serves me correctly, the operator was scheduling service CVG-HTS-MYR and was then delayed due to sluggish demand. Eventually, I believe they began operating some sort of flights but with an RJ sized aircraft.

I believe that was CRW...



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4400 times:



Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 16):
Huntington, WV was an original destination of a carrier that started service in conjunction of service with Direct Air. If memory serves me correctly, the operator was scheduling service CVG-HTS-MYR and was then delayed due to sluggish demand. Eventually, I believe they began operating some sort of flights but with an RJ sized aircraft

Was it Southern Skyways?



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4388 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 17):
I keep hearing radio commercials for NK service from ORD to MYR. I have to listen more closely next time, but I think that they said it was daily. What I dont know is if it is seasonal or not.

I'll be darned...it is a schedule nonstop flight from ORD-MYR. Just checked their website - it looks like one a day. I'll chalk one up for you - good catch.


User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4381 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 19):
Was it Southern Skyways?

Yes...thanks for refreshing my memory.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 18):
I believe that was CRW...

You're right. Man...I must have a case of the stupids today...UGH!


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4375 times:



Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 20):
I'll be darned...it is a schedule nonstop flight from ORD-MYR. Just checked their website - it looks like one a day. I'll chalk one up for you - good catch.

Kinda surprised me too. I hope it works out for them. Kinda feel sorry for the rampers though. There has to be a lot of golf bags on each flight.



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4346 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 22):
Kinda surprised me too. I hope it works out for them. Kinda feel sorry for the rampers though. There has to be a lot of golf bags on each flight.

I don't feel sorry for them at all...a year round job in MYR..even if it only pays $9/hr is a valued thing. Besides, after working with enough golf clubs in my life on the ramp..you start to develop a system to getting them loaded. Its the wierd bags that have 15 mini rollers on the bottom that people deicide to pack everything they have ever owned into that always used to irritate me.


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2665 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4279 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 17):
What I dont know is if it is seasonal or not.

Spirit's service is March-November... I believe this is the first year they are running it.



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25 ERAUgrad02 : No.. Those flights were shifted to SFB-ILM-SFB ops. Desmond in ILM,
26 Post contains links FATFlyer : The second city getting MYR is..............Allentown. Flights start May 3. http://www.allegiantair.com/aaNews/aaNews20090304a.php
27 Flyinryan99 : This is interesting since Direct Air is also running ABE-MYR trips on the same days. It seems as Allegiant is feeling somewhat threatened by Direct A
28 FATFlyer : Allegiant will be Thursday/Sunday. I believe Direct Air is Wed/Sat.
29 Flyinryan99 : In May, this is Direct Air's schedule: Additional Outbound Flights (ALLENTOWN PA - MYRTLE BEACH, SC) Date Origin Destination Departure Arrival Stops
30 AvConsultant : The flying public only cares about one thing......ticket price. When 3 or more legacy carriers raise the price and one does not suddenly the price hi
31 CitrusCritter : MYR is a virtual enclave of West Virginia during the tourist season. It is by far the most popular destinations for West Virginians heading to the be
32 Falcon Flyer : Interesting. Never would have thought that, it just seemed like such an ultra thin route. I'm sure Allegiant did its research.
33 GSPSPOT : I was wondering when they'd add MYR. Seems the typical G4-type destination, and should be able to support some of the svc year-round. The former Hard
34 Post contains links FATFlyer : That is interesting because on their timetable page they show it as Wed/Sat for March thru May: Allentown Myrtle Beach 3:15 PM 4:46 PM Wed Allentown
35 KcrwFlyer : MYR is like a utopia for West Virginians for some reason...cant say I'm too fond of the area. HTS and CRW could both easily support this 2x weekly se
36 FATFlyer : I wonder how everything prices out with all the fees on both airlines. Allegiant shows $49 ow/$98 RT for those dates starting May 3 and onward.
37 Flyinryan99 : " target=_blank>http://www.visitdirectair.com/flight...table Yeah, I am not sure what is going on with them. I am wondering if they are having troubl
38 FATFlyer : I just checked and it looks like they have. Direct Air is now showing $49 fares.
39 Flyboy1108 : The 737 flights are operated by Pace Airlines. I just learned today that we were getting 73's when I walked into work, so this is a very recent addit
40 Nkops : I wonder if it will be the ones still painted in Hooters Air colors.. orange and white.
41 FATFlyer : Which goes back to some comments at the start of this thread about customers not chosing Allegiant because of IFE, etc. If Direct Air doesn't have it
42 Toltommy : If I'm not mistaken, Direct Air TOL-MYR will be using a USA Jet DC9. I have a hunch that'll make a spartan MD-80 look as good as a shiny new VX Airbu
43 RSW88 : I did fly out of MYR today and saw Allegiant listed on the "arrivials" board. I believe this was the Tunica charter as there was no departure listed e
44 BMI727 : This could be the beginning of the end for DirectAir's service to MYR. Using VX metal was the one significant advantage they had over G4. If they use
45 JA : I think they will both benefit from this. Think about it logically: one guy is flying WeSa and the other ThSu at the same fares. That means that peop
46 BMI727 : Which could also lead to overcapacity. Which would lead to a fare war as both fight for market share. I would foresee one or the other pulling out ra
47 FATFlyer : Allegiant ended 2008 with over $100 million in cash. They've got a pretty good deep pocket. The only question would be is how much is Allegiant willi
48 JA : If you want to make money, you run two flights when there is demand for three. This is how G4's load factor systemwide is around 87%. While the fight
49 FATFlyer : Systemwide includes the fixed-fee casino charters. Allegiant does not control how many seats get sold on those. A better number to use would be the s
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