M11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1208 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18129 times:
At least we know it works! (I also said that to my friend who I accidentally shot with pepper spray! haha) How did the airplane continue to taxi with the slide inflated? Or was it detached in the middle of the taxi way?
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I cant make up my mind whether in this case it is just as well that the MD-80 engines are tailmounted rather than underwing , or , a crying shame .... it certainly could have made for a spectacular case of FOD ( I am sure that someone wittier than I can come up with a suitably modified definition of that acronym to suit this occasion )
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B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 17743 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 8): Assuming AA will send the bill to this nutcase, how much will that little stunt cost him to re-arm the slide or is trashed and a new one insttalled in its place???
Not sure about the Mad Dogs, but typically once a slide is deployed you need to swap it out with a new slide as the one that was deployed needs to be inspected for damage, repaired, re-packaged and the bottle charged by a certified repair vendor for that particular unit. Some aircraft are easy to do, some not so easy. If I were AA, yes, I would charge the passenger for any costs incurred for the delay, the repair and service on the unit, and any pay-outs to the customers that were onboard!
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ILovePabst From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17620 times:
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 9): If I were AA, yes, I would charge the passenger for any costs incurred for the delay, the repair and service on the unit, and any pay-outs to the customers that were onboard!
That sounds good but realistically the guy will probably claim the ghost of D.B. Cooper told him to do it and then sue AA for bumping his head on the tarmac.
AndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 44 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17346 times:
What an idiot. I really hope the FBI busts him and I'm sure he'll be getting a bill from American for the slide. A repack on a slide is around $15k, plus the fees for taking the aircraft out of service... etc. This can easily end up costing this idiot tens of thousands of dollars.
He really needs to be doing jailtime for disobeying flight crew instructions. He didn't want to sit on that mad dog - let's see how he likes sitting in a concrete box with a cellmate named Wanda, poking him with a toilet brush for the next couple of years.
SL1200MK2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 31 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17099 times:
Is it possible that this person was not in a proper mental state rather than just being stupid? I agree that this type of behavior is disruptive, expensive and clearly wrong to do. I also believe however, that before the FBI has its way with him and AA starts sending him bills, he should be evaluated. My assumption is that major airlines have insurance to deal with this sort of cost even if the dude in question is who is at fault. I would think that eventually this person will have to pay one way or another however I don't see any major harm coming from this, as unnecessary as it is.
Kevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1056 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16912 times:
Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 12): OK, where were the F/As during this? The plane was taxxiing in, so there would have been two F/As sitting on the jumpseat next to L1, which is only a couple of feet away from the R1 door.
There is only one FA assigned to sit on that jumpseat. The man first tried to break into the cockpit. The captain made a PA for other passengers to help the FA subdue the man. Several people including the guys mother tried to intervene, but he managed to get the door open and jump out where he was detained by the rampers.
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Skygypsy From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 15897 times:
Real tired of the mental state excuse. People need to be accountable for themselves when they get on an airplane this day and age. Period. There are other ways to travel, take the train. Or maybe each person should have to be mentally checkout before each flight, by TSA of course!
Yes they sure are loud and fast and extremely dangerous if you're on the receiving end. People have been killed from slide deployments at the gate, usually caterers. That's why the rampers came running. I hope they beat his @#*!!
Terryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 15623 times:
Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 13): A Delta mech told me that an MD80 slide averages around $12000-$15000 to inspect/repack.
That was in 1995 dollars.
Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 16): $25,000 for our planes. A320 Its happened a few times and not by pax, by mx.
You guys are looking at new prices. Slides are EXCHANGED, and the prices are about 10% of new, plus parts, if needed.
Most of the time, slides are exchanged with an overhauled/re certified slide on a schedule. The over haul shop takes in the old slide, inflates it to check for leaks, cracking, etc. Then it is repacked, bottle recharged, and tagged ready for service.
Slides are big business, as they all have to be exchanged regularly.
25 AirFrance: Personally I would have gone out of my seat jumped down the slide, tackle the guy maybe throw in a curb stomp and yell "your making my plane late fool
26 TheRedBaron: You are wrong the ghost of D.B. Cooper would have told him to use the rear stairs..LOL What a Dolt this guy, I mean jumping with the AC moving? He is
27 Chapavaeaa: Your correct they are loud. I used to walk past the slide shop at AA's AFW base on a regular basis at lunch and I swear the repack shop guys would pu
28 797: Last week I flew in an A319 and saw outside the L1 door that there was an LED light with a sticker that said: "DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR IF THE LED IS ON!
29 Toering: Even if he made it into the terminal, he would still have to wait for his bag.
30 Chapavaeaa: WFAA 10 pm news just stated that his isn't facing any charges at this point. He is in for a psychological exam. I guess they are awaiting those result
31 LY4XELD: Assuming this happened quickly, the F/A's were probably still buckled in, not able to stop him in time. It doesn't take very long to open the door, a
32 SkyguyB727: "Slides may be detached and used as life rafts!" If the slides on the MD-80 doors are like the ones on the older versions of the DC-9, the slide just
33 JQFlightie: I know our A320 slides if blown cost approx. $200000 to repair/repack, so we were told in training necer to blow one!