FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1201 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18348 times:
WFAA is reporting that a 26 year old man opened the R1 door of a taxiing AA MD-80 jet at DFW. He then exited the aircraft via the slide and was caught by airline employees as he ran across the tarmac.
CAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 367 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18199 times:
Damn fool...After the flight arrived 3 minutes late. Their's no reasonable explanation for such action. I hope the FBI take real good care of him...
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BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14415 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18191 times:
Yet another installment of Idiots on a Plane.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4783 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18136 times:
M11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1208 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18129 times:
At least we know it works! (I also said that to my friend who I accidentally shot with pepper spray! haha) How did the airplane continue to taxi with the slide inflated? Or was it detached in the middle of the taxi way?
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MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10351 posts, RR: 40 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18035 times:
Lucky he did not end up under an A/C wheel....
I can't even imagine how a passenger would want to open a door before complete stop and jump off a slide raft in an airport. This is completely cuckoo!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
I cant make up my mind whether in this case it is just as well that the MD-80 engines are tailmounted rather than underwing , or , a crying shame .... it certainly could have made for a spectacular case of FOD ( I am sure that someone wittier than I can come up with a suitably modified definition of that acronym to suit this occasion )
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ImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1243 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 17843 times:
The Singaporeans have the right idea. Public caning would have a better effect that going to the expense of the FBI. He must have freaked-out the rest of the pax. What an idiot.
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Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1616 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 17796 times:
Assuming AA will send the bill to this nutcase, how much will that little stunt cost him to re-arm the slide or is trashed and a new one insttalled in its place???
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 17743 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 8): Assuming AA will send the bill to this nutcase, how much will that little stunt cost him to re-arm the slide or is trashed and a new one insttalled in its place???
Not sure about the Mad Dogs, but typically once a slide is deployed you need to swap it out with a new slide as the one that was deployed needs to be inspected for damage, repaired, re-packaged and the bottle charged by a certified repair vendor for that particular unit. Some aircraft are easy to do, some not so easy. If I were AA, yes, I would charge the passenger for any costs incurred for the delay, the repair and service on the unit, and any pay-outs to the customers that were onboard!
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ILovePabst From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17620 times:
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 9): If I were AA, yes, I would charge the passenger for any costs incurred for the delay, the repair and service on the unit, and any pay-outs to the customers that were onboard!
That sounds good but realistically the guy will probably claim the ghost of D.B. Cooper told him to do it and then sue AA for bumping his head on the tarmac.
Burner71 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17546 times:
You know, after landing on that far out runway more than a few times at DFW and doing the 30 minute taxi, I have felt like doing the same thing lol
TDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17411 times:
OK, where were the F/As during this? The plane was taxxiing in, so there would have been two F/As sitting on the jumpseat next to L1, which is only a couple of feet away from the R1 door.
How did he get by them in order to pop the door, wait for the slide to inflate and then jump??
TWAL1011727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 599 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17364 times:
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 8): Assuming AA will send the bill to this nutcase, how much will that little stunt cost him to re-arm the slide or is trashed and a new one insttalled in its place???
A Delta mech told me that an MD80 slide averages around $12000-$15000 to inspect/repack.
That was in 1995 dollars.
AndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 44 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17346 times:
What an idiot. I really hope the FBI busts him and I'm sure he'll be getting a bill from American for the slide. A repack on a slide is around $15k, plus the fees for taking the aircraft out of service... etc. This can easily end up costing this idiot tens of thousands of dollars.
He really needs to be doing jailtime for disobeying flight crew instructions. He didn't want to sit on that mad dog - let's see how he likes sitting in a concrete box with a cellmate named Wanda, poking him with a toilet brush for the next couple of years.
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1201 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17306 times:
The slide doesn't take but a few seconds to inflate. It's not like he had a long time to "wait." As far as the rampers go, are you kidding? They have been waiting for this day all their lives, lol.
Contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17284 times:
$25,000 for our planes. A320 Its happened a few times and not by pax, by mx. LMAO One time it happened as I was justing passing by an a/c after a push. Holy sh@t is it loud.
SL1200MK2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 31 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 17099 times:
Is it possible that this person was not in a proper mental state rather than just being stupid? I agree that this type of behavior is disruptive, expensive and clearly wrong to do. I also believe however, that before the FBI has its way with him and AA starts sending him bills, he should be evaluated. My assumption is that major airlines have insurance to deal with this sort of cost even if the dude in question is who is at fault. I would think that eventually this person will have to pay one way or another however I don't see any major harm coming from this, as unnecessary as it is.
Kevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1056 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16912 times:
Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 12): OK, where were the F/As during this? The plane was taxxiing in, so there would have been two F/As sitting on the jumpseat next to L1, which is only a couple of feet away from the R1 door.
There is only one FA assigned to sit on that jumpseat. The man first tried to break into the cockpit. The captain made a PA for other passengers to help the FA subdue the man. Several people including the guys mother tried to intervene, but he managed to get the door open and jump out where he was detained by the rampers.
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Qualitydr From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 103 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16325 times:
Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 14): let's see how he likes sitting in a concrete box with a cellmate named Wanda
Wanda's still in? Sheesh... You'd think by now he'd have that toilet cleaned up good!
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Skygypsy From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 15897 times:
Real tired of the mental state excuse. People need to be accountable for themselves when they get on an airplane this day and age. Period. There are other ways to travel, take the train. Or maybe each person should have to be mentally checkout before each flight, by TSA of course!
Yes they sure are loud and fast and extremely dangerous if you're on the receiving end. People have been killed from slide deployments at the gate, usually caterers. That's why the rampers came running. I hope they beat his @#*!!
Terryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 15623 times:
Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 13): A Delta mech told me that an MD80 slide averages around $12000-$15000 to inspect/repack.
That was in 1995 dollars.
Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 16): $25,000 for our planes. A320 Its happened a few times and not by pax, by mx.
You guys are looking at new prices. Slides are EXCHANGED, and the prices are about 10% of new, plus parts, if needed.
Most of the time, slides are exchanged with an overhauled/re certified slide on a schedule. The over haul shop takes in the old slide, inflates it to check for leaks, cracking, etc. Then it is repacked, bottle recharged, and tagged ready for service.
Slides are big business, as they all have to be exchanged regularly.
25 AirFrance: Personally I would have gone out of my seat jumped down the slide, tackle the guy maybe throw in a curb stomp and yell "your making my plane late fool
26 TheRedBaron: You are wrong the ghost of D.B. Cooper would have told him to use the rear stairs..LOL What a Dolt this guy, I mean jumping with the AC moving? He is
27 Chapavaeaa: Your correct they are loud. I used to walk past the slide shop at AA's AFW base on a regular basis at lunch and I swear the repack shop guys would pu
28 797: Last week I flew in an A319 and saw outside the L1 door that there was an LED light with a sticker that said: "DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR IF THE LED IS ON!
29 Toering: Even if he made it into the terminal, he would still have to wait for his bag.
30 Chapavaeaa: WFAA 10 pm news just stated that his isn't facing any charges at this point. He is in for a psychological exam. I guess they are awaiting those result
31 LY4XELD: Assuming this happened quickly, the F/A's were probably still buckled in, not able to stop him in time. It doesn't take very long to open the door, a
32 SkyguyB727: "Slides may be detached and used as life rafts!" If the slides on the MD-80 doors are like the ones on the older versions of the DC-9, the slide just
33 JQFlightie: I know our A320 slides if blown cost approx. $200000 to repair/repack, so we were told in training necer to blow one!
34 Flyboyseven: That is an astute observation. LOL
35 SkyGirl: My guess is none... Oh, the things that we wait all our lives for. I remember after one of the UA incidents where we had to duct tape a pax to her ch
36 JETA1863: I remember hearing a few years back that a Flight Attendant for American was killed in Miami on an A300 when they returned after some sort of problem
37 JoeCanuck: Where's a tar pit when you need one...? It looks like evolution missed another one...
38 ACEregular: I believe this happened a few years ago on an AA A300. The incident killed the FA outright.
39 ShyFlyer: Set it to the tune of "Yakety Sax" and you've got a Benny Hill sketch!
40 Ogre727: Wow. That's really bad! Regarding the guy on this story... I hear you guys that enough is enough with the mental sanity excuse... that being said...
41 HAWK21M: Whats with the weirdos in todays world. regds MEL.
42 BWE320: A similar incident happened a couple of years ago when a passenger opened the door UDR on a LH B744 at MEX. He was not stopped on the tarmac immediat
43 ACEregular: Must have fancied a really long slide - weirdos!
44 Adam42185: $200,000?! Is that accurate or is there an extra "0" in there? Im not saying youre wrong, I just dont know.
45 Terryb99: It is not 20,000, or 200,000, to repack/re certify a slide. I have been in the aviation parts business for almost 20 years, and own my own company. S
46 Flyfree727: The md80 slides on AA auto-inflate once the door is opened and the slide falls out of the slide pack. The manual inflation handle does not need to be
47 MidEx216: Y'know, my biggest question is did the guy really think that jumping out of the plane and booking it toward the terminal building would get him there
48 Boeing747_600: Guys! Can we keep the FBI's involvement in this down to the bare minimum? (5 mins in my estimation would be too much). They have REAL problems to han
49 Flyboy80: I had to have police meet one of my flights a while back because a passenger was causing some extensive problems during the flight, well before the p
50 Jcf5002: Having worked on the BWI ramp as a fueller, I totally hoped something like that would happen one day. I would've bum-rushed the guy. Ramp cement caus
51 FlyASAGuy2005: Brings back memories! In my SIDA class, they would always tell us that we shouldn't be affraid to question and confront. I see some guy jumping out t
52 Rdwelch: This is when Terrible Terry Tate, Ramp Agent shows up.. Gus.
53 F35: He's just lucky that the engines on a mad dog are tail mounted and not wing mounted...he could have been in the same place as the mechanic on CO 1515.
54 AM744: Maybe the guy was in hurry and didn't have checked in baggage. LOL. Wow. Why is it that they come at that price? Do they need to be refurbished every
55 TWAL1011727: Any slide that has a girt bar attached to the floor will/should auto inflate when that slide goes beyond the floor level. On occasions it may need to
56 Maverick623: Well if I saw someone jumping out a service door, there'd be very little questioning and lots of confronting.
57 Terryb99: Yeah, most likely a scare tactic, Those prices are for a whole slide assembly, outright purchase, no exchange. Yes, if it gets deployed, off to a ove
58 797: According to the eyes of the outsiders, they all gather in airliners.net!
59 SkyguyB727: If you watch the video on the WFAA website, it shows a video clip from Jet America (SI). The F/A opens the door, the slide falls out, but then the F/
60 JQFlightie: In training at JQ, we never deploy slides, but we are trained on Airbus 320/321/330 door operation in a emergency, we only hear the sound of the slid
61 TDubJFK: Skygypsy: You GO Girl ! 1,000% agree with everything u said !!
62 HAWK21M: That guy was def no Anetter,else he wouldn't be walking away from the Aircraft regds MEL.
63 57AZ: They have to. If the psych determines that he was not sane at the time of the event, he cannot be charged with a crime or held responsible for his ac
64 Frequentflykid: That's not true. Just because a court appointed mental health professional rules that a defendant is not aware of his or her actions doesn't mean they
65 Skydrol: The power of an inflating slide is incredible. If someone is in its path, they would likely expire. I'm aware of a situation where a slide inflated i
66 Chase: What!?!?!? Okay, you *have* to tell this story!
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