Airborne1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2133 times:
Just curious about this? I say USAIR because the stock is diving like the rest of
the carriers. I think they will go under a $1.00 before anyone else. Does this mean
BK again? Someone is going to hit the bottoms first.
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3265 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2107 times:
Quoting Airborne1 (Thread starter): Just curious about this? I say USAIR because the stock is diving like the rest of
the carriers. I think they will go under a $1.00 before anyone else. Does this mean
BK again? Someone is going to hit the bottoms first.
Who cares about where their stock is? They still have signficant cash flow, as do the other majors right now.
0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 835 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2086 times:
The listing will be pulled off of the "big board" and LCC will have 30 days for their stock price to come back above $1.00. If they do not, the listing will be completely removed from the stock exchange because LCC will be in violation of the stock exchange's standards.
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EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2032 times:
Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 1): They still have signficant cash flow, as do the other majors right now.
Talking to a friend at a major national carrier, their load factors are very high.... and fuel prices are low. Things are actually pretty good... ( I say holding my breath )
Stock price has no bearing on it's condition....well not always. The industry as a whole is poor...but that is not directly connected to USAirways declaring bankruptcy just because their stock goes below $1.00 a share. I truely feel USAirways will be the Continental 'Worst to First' of this time. I flew them a few months back and LOVED IT..!! Great service, Great staff, On-Time.. what more do you really want...??? I'll fly them again FOR SURE..
[Edited 2009-03-03 14:28:48]
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Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26682 posts, RR: 83 Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
Quoting 0NEWAIR0 (Reply 2): The listing will be pulled off of the "big board" and LCC will have 30 days for their stock price to come back above $1.00. If they do not, the listing will be completely removed from the stock exchange because LCC will be in violation of the stock exchange's standards.
Though once it is formally de-listed from the NYSE, it will still be traded on a lesser exchange (I'm guessing the OTCE - that is where UAL went for a time when they could not be listed on the NYSE).
Dallasnewark From Estonia, joined Nov 2005, 482 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1870 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 4): Though once it is formally de-listed from the NYSE, it will still be traded on a lesser exchange (I'm guessing the OTCE - that is where UAL went for a time when they could not be listed on the NYSE).
That is correct, they would be traded on the Over The Counter(OTC) exchange. Certain restrictions would be placed on the volumes and the options trading. Also, the Stock Symbol would change, it would consists of 5 letters
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3265 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3): I truely feel USAirways will be the Continental 'Worst to First' of this time. I flew them a few months back and LOVED IT..!! Great service, Great staff, On-Time.. what more do you really want...??? I'll fly them again FOR SURE..
I was hoping they'd be the "worst-to-first" of the 2000s when Siegel took over in 2002, especially considering his strong influence on the operation of CO in the '90s. Unfortunately, I was off by a few years. While I would like to see US succeed as a comany, most of us in PIT are still more than a little bitter about the pulldown of a few years ago. I understand it's the cost of doing business in a deregulated market, but most people in PIT have nothing nice to say about US Airways anymore.
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22707 posts, RR: 88 Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1694 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3): Talking to a friend at a major national carrier, their load factors are very high.... and fuel prices are low. Things are actually pretty good... ( I say holding my breath )
Given the results that are in from some majors - United, Continental and Southwest - I don't know who has "very high" load factors.
In any case, revenue is the key here, not load factors, and Delta has just warned of a "significant loss" for the quarter:
"Atlanta-based Delta (NYSE: DAL) said the typically weak demand of the first quarter of the year and the sour economy will couple with upside-down fuel hedges and drops in global demand to send it to a “significant loss in the March 2009 quarter.”
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3265 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
Quoting Mariner (Reply 7): Given the results that are in from some majors - United, Continental and Southwest - I don't know who has "very high" load factors.
In any case, revenue is the key here, not load factors, and Delta has just warned of a "significant loss" for the quarter:
"Atlanta-based Delta (NYSE: DAL) said the typically weak demand of the first quarter of the year and the sour economy will couple with upside-down fuel hedges and drops in global demand to send it to a “significant loss in the March 2009 quarter.”
How is this good?
I know it's not good, but no one is on the front door of bankruptcy court, especially not DL, US, AA or CO.
7e72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3585 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1620 times:
I remember when I bought US stock after it was issued and sold it at it's height...which I can't recall but know it was a lot because I remember saying I lucked out!
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