- Talks of Pacific Blue bringing over some E190s
- An AKL meet?
- Possible Ejet routes
- RealDeals dream for IVC
- JQ going to ZQN, but DJ not allowed
- Great Barrier Airlines re-branding
- Tasman routes could become Domestic routes next year - implications on Duty Free purchases
- Pacific Blue and Virgin Blues complicated rules for International flights
- Is DJ sending their E170s to New Zealand for Pacific Blue domestic ops late this year?
- QF removes or reduces its fuel charges
- International routes fees, like secuirty charges
- NZs A320 Australian/Pacific Islands routes dropping the NZ7** flight numbers
(i) "Among the three options being considered was the 104-seater Embraer E-190 jet which can land at almost any airport in the country. The airline wanted to significantly increase regional services that offer substantial tourism growth, Mr Parton said."
(ii) "French manufacturer ATR is touting the 68-seat ATR72-600, which is the next generation of the current 500 model, as the most fuel efficient and the more environmentally friendly."
(iii) "Canada's Bombardier has the 90-seat Q400X, a larger version of the Q300, which Air New Zealand introduced two years ago. Mr Parton said most passengers preferred to fly on a jet rather than a noisier propeller aircraft."
That last comment is a bit odd, since Q stands for quiet. Experience in the United States suggests that there is little or no passenger resistance to the Q400 and that it is so economical it is replacing jets on some routes.
But perhaps you meant another Mr. Parton or a different sub fleet?
Flyjetstar From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 939 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13826 times:
I heard today on the radio that IVC cant handle A320's. Does anyone know if that is true? The context of the chat was where would a JQ A320 divert to as at the moment, until years end I heard the JQ spokeperson say, the JQ A320's don't have the required equipment to land at ZQN in all weathers.
Vfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3759 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13807 times:
Quoting Mariner (Reply 2): iii) "Canada's Bombardier has the 90-seat Q400X, a larger version of the Q300, which Air New Zealand introduced two years ago. Mr Parton said most passengers preferred to fly on a jet rather than a noisier propeller aircraft."
Do they? The 90seat Q400X is nothing more than a paper plane, so I am surprised that ANZ is considering it as an imminent replacement for the ATR72-500. Not sure why they do not consider the 78seat Q400 if they also look at the 68seat ATR72-600.
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11643 posts, RR: 17 Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13722 times:
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NZ again today have HLZ-SYD for $139 with 113 seats left and HLZ-BNE for $139 with 380 seats left for travel starting in 3 days. Anyone fancy a holiday in Tonga? NZ have also got Tonga on Grab a Seat today
Yeah this was stalled by the many posts about that airport down south.. How many others are interested? Some Saturday before the weather turns rather nasty? I'd say AKL first due to the number of members up here but then maybe others elsewhere if this proves popular.
DavidByrne From New Zealand, joined Sep 2007, 1562 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 13608 times:
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 10): Says Boeing secured one order for a 777 from NZ. Anyone know what this is?
This was reported the other day, and it's a 777-300ER. Originally there were firm orders for four and options for three placed. Presumably this is the conversion of one of those three options - can anyone confirm that?
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DavidByrne From New Zealand, joined Sep 2007, 1562 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 13596 times:
Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 3): I heard today on the radio that IVC cant handle A320's. Does anyone know if that is true?
Quoting Rwy21 (Reply 9): Would land at DUD as diverts often do as well as CHC
What's the obstacle to A320s using IVC? Not runway length, surely. According to the GCM, ZQN has a runway length of 6,200 ft, DUD 6,234 ft and IVC longer than either of them at 7,250 ft. And IVC does have an air bridge (not that that's critical). Is it a lack of security screening equipment? If so, why doesn't that prevent B737 diversions?
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Alangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2103 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13391 times:
Nostalgia for 12 months ago, when the discussion point was - what would AirNZ choose for their regional routes. A lot of people thought the Q400 would get the nod, but as it happens, the decision was deferred.
Not just AirNZ. The Q400X has gone nowhere since Bombardier mentioned it. They have managed to launch their 100 seater jet the CRJ1000, but the 90 seater TP has gone quiet. We had a year when fuel went up in price to alarming levels. You cannot do fleet planning based on highs and lows in fuel prices. The plane would expect to have a 15 to 20 year period in service, and fuel prices will go up and down in that period.
The ATR72-600 has reportedly got some orders, but it seems just not enough of an improvement to justify rolling over a fleet of -500s now.
The CRJ-1000 seems to have sold slowly worldwide. I think there are no orders from North American airlines, probably because of Agreements with Pilots at major airlines. The earlier CRJs were not known for their good performance at short fields, but NG 700s and 900s are improved. This type might be useful in NZ for routes of more than 400 miles, where you could use a plane smaller than a 733.
Aerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2548 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13380 times:
Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 11): Yep I know that but with all of REALDEAL's wishful thinking about IVC being used for ZQN when it can't even handle a A320, I was surprised to learn that. Surely that is the end of such talk.
Well that conversation appears to have been stalled for some time. REALDEAL is currently suspended for breaching rules or whatnot. Given the number of times my posts responding to REALDEAL have been removed, I wonder if I'm on the brink too.
Out of curiousity, does anyone on the "inside" know exactly why QF's domestic operations are so unreliable? Everything is almost constantly 45-60 mins late. It's hard to believe that it's constantly "mechanical" issues - I thought the QF 737s were maintained by NZ here and NZ's 737s seem pretty reliable (granted, 7-8 years newer).
PacBlue is almost always on time, in my experience, so what's the deal here?
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4749 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13376 times:
Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 15): Out of curiousity, does anyone on the "inside" know exactly why QF's domestic operations are so unreliable? Everything is almost constantly 45-60 mins late. It's hard to believe that it's constantly "mechanical" issues - I thought the QF 737s were maintained by NZ here and NZ's 737s seem pretty reliable (granted, 7-8 years newer).
Small fleet of old aircraft. Unlike NZ when one falls over (which is more often due to the age of the aircraft compared to NZ and DJ) another can't be called on to replace it and since frequencies are lower those pax can't be moved quickly over to another flight. As soon as there is a delay with services it messes up the schedule for the whole day.
Alangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2103 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13301 times:
Argh. I am due to fly in the Qantas A380 on 26May09. Qantas have now rescheduled the SYD-SIN leg for an earlier departure ex SYD. This means that QF046 CHC-SYD is no longer a good connection. Qantas have rebooked me via AKL, which is a bit of a roundabout way of getting to SYD. I hope the Qantas domestic 734 will not choose that day to break down.
Some of the alternative routings Qantas offered - I could fly Jetstar out of CHC at 0635, and then fly QF081 via ADL. This would be OK, but it would force me to stay the night in CHC at added expense.
As I found, if you add a connecting fare to an International fare ex CHC, that adds $500 to the fare, for a Dunedin passenger. If like me you bought a separate ticket (actually a FF redemption), you take a risk, which I did, because there is no protection when something like this happens. But, still even with a change penalty I am paying less than the DUD-CHC connecting fare that was quoted to me.
Sorry for whinging on A.net, but Qantas have made me regret choosing them over Singapore Airlines. I hope the A380 will be worth it.
Flyjetstar From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 939 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13260 times:
Zeal members reject offer
6 March, 2009
EPMU members at Air New Zealand's subsidiary, Zeal, have unanimously voted to reject the company's final offer.
The offer involved a series of clawbacks and a pay increase that is lower than the cost of living.
EPMU national aviation organiser Strachan Crang says Zeal workers have had enough of their poverty wages. "We've surveyed our members and none of them can make ends meet on their Zeal wages."
"A quarter of Zeal's staff are working second and third jobs and most of the others are living on debt, taking in boarders or getting WINZ allowances," says Crang, "that's a disgrace but Air New Zealand prefer to refer to it as ‘competitive advantage.'"
"What's even more concerning is that the company wants to use Zeal workers as an in-house temping agency," he says, "which would mean they'd be used to undermine the terms and conditions of the airline's other one thousand flight attendants."
Currently Zeal flight attendants' pay and allowances are up to $30,000 a year less than flight attendants who do the same jobs but are directly employed by Air NZ.
767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13226 times:
I was chatting to a ZEAL FA on a flight last year - I was the only pax in J - and she was telling me she loves the job, the pax but was quitting as the wages werecat poverty line levels. I would gues they would be on NZ$25,000, or even less.
Anyone know how much Jetconnect and Jetstar FAs earn?
JQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 911 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13228 times:
Quoting 767ER (Reply 22): Anyone know how much Jetconnect and Jetstar FAs earn?
im a Team Jetstar FA and i have a base of $35500 + Allowences this is well below what a Jetstar FA earns.
Our Jetconnect employees in CHC are paid poorly not quite sure of a figure
but my heart goes out to our BKK & SIN Based crew the get paid in peanuts i think! and they have to share rooms on over nights its disgusting!
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