Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1004 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 15543 times:
Quoting Dfwagt (Thread starter): Of course the one day I don't bring my camera. Ship 389 is at D36 right now at DFW. Was to go to LHR as AA78, however equipment was changed. Not linked to any other flts at this time
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1): So all of the paperwork for the FAA/JAA certification has gone through already?
Unless they slapped the winglets back on in the last couple of days, 389 looks like any other 767-300 in our fleet. She has been flying WITHOUT winglets for a couple of months now. Since the STC has not been approved for the winglets. The STC was amended for 389 to allow her to be flown with the beefed up wing spar for the winglets so the airplane can still be flown, if it was not amended she would have been sitting for month until the STC has approved because the last 10 feet of the wing spar has been modified to fit and take the extra stress of the winglets.
Dazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2739 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 13907 times:
Quoting SKY1 (Reply 3): I wonder if really worth post-added winglets on the 767 wings
With an estimated 6.5% reduction in fuel burn, I'd say it was definately a worthy investment. A well known charter airline in the UK is marketing themselves as installing them as part of environmental concerns and doing their bit to reduce carbon emissions, not to mention overall savings on the cost of fuel.
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WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 13279 times:
On flights of a transatlantic length, the payoff will always be there because of the reduced fuel burn. Higher cost fuel will make the return on investment come much faster but the investment is worth it. Further, airlines are not paying spot fuel prices for all of their consumption because of bad fuel hedges. Fuel will go back up and not all will be hedged. An investment in reducing fuel burn will always pay off - it's just a matter of how quickly.
Aviation Partners Boeing estimates that the blended winglets designed for the 767-300ER will save up to 6.5 percent on fuel consumption, by reducing the drag created by wingtip vortices. This would produce savings of more than 500,000 gallons of jet fuel per aircraft per year for operators with the longest average sector lengths and highest aircraft utilization rates.
Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1004 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7810 times:
Quoting Tpa36r (Reply 12): It does have the winglets installed. They were approved. I believe it flew first renvue yesterday to Honnolulu.
Wow I stand corrected, 389 flew into BOS about 2 weeks ago and it did not have winglets. But since it was already moded all you have to do is bolt them on and go, so it would only take a couple of hours.
DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7450 times:
I saw it tonight at D36! It was AA78 as is mentioned above. It was dark and I didn't have a camera, though I attempted a shot with my cell phone, which didn't really come out. I could actually see it when taxiing in on Eagle. Then I had the good fortune of driving beneath it as it taxied across the Yankee bridge to get to the east side for departure for London.
Lexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2428 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days ago) and read 6835 times:
Quoting DFW13L (Reply 18): I saw it tonight at D36! It was AA78 as is mentioned above. It was dark and I didn't have a camera, though I attempted a shot with my cell phone, which didn't really come out. I could actually see it when taxiing in on Eagle. Then I had the good fortune of driving beneath it as it taxied across the Yankee bridge to get to the east side for departure for London.
727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 792 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6502 times:
I am really glad to see that the 767 winglets have been approved. I think that this mod will give the 763 a new lease on life. I know that this statement is flame bait, but I do wonder if we could see a limited number of 763ER orders placed at significant discount to fill in for the seemingly never ending 788 delays. At the right purchase price this does make a new 763ER a good addition for an airline that has a large fleet of aging 763ERs, eh hmm DL, on a limited basis, like maybe 5-10 airframes. I know, will never happen, but interesting thought.