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Will Ocean Air Receive The Airbus?  
User currently offlineLPSHobby From Brazil, joined May 2007, 191 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5212 times:
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Ocean Air has an order for A330s, 320s and 319s, will them receive these aircraft?


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Leonardo

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User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5160 times:

In a recent interview OceanAir's CEO did say that they should be getting some Airbuses starting this year, and that they would hope to base them at Santos Dumont.
These would be A319/A320s, as clearly long haul ambitions for OceanAir were a failure. The A330s are going to Avianca, which is replacing 767s sooner than they had anticipated, and can probably help to bridge the gap caused by the delay on the 787s.


User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

What happened to their plans to fly to Luanda and Lagos??

User currently offlineAlianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4691 times:



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 1):
In a recent interview OceanAir's CEO did say that they should be getting some Airbuses starting this year, and that they would hope to base them at Santos Dumont.
These would be A319/A320s, as clearly long haul ambitions for OceanAir were a failure.

Per the interview, does this mean that Ocean Air will remain a regional carrier with no plans for long haul service?


Saludos,


User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2561 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4641 times:



Quoting AsoRock (Reply 2):
What happened to their plans to fly to Luanda and Lagos??

OceanAir had 3 767s and 1 757s, but only GRU-MEX was served for a few months, with terrible results. Luanda and Lagos were not even attempted.
Out of those planes, the 757 is flying for AV, 2 767s returned to the lessor and another one is parked in MDE awaiting a new owner,

Quoting Alianza (Reply 3):
Per the interview, does this mean that Ocean Air will remain a regional carrier with no plans for long haul service?

There was no mention of long haul. After undergoing some restructuring (getting rid of 737s, F50s, E120s and the 757 and 767s, leaving only F100s) OceanAir has been consolidating in a smaller network. Punctuality and load factor have improved drastically.
I guess that the airline aspires to steady domestic growth, adding new routes carefully. One can envisage short international destinations further on. I don't imagine that long haul ambitions have been binned, but just put in the freezer. The whole group will receive 12 787s and 10 A350s, with options for more. So perhaps when it comes to them being delivered, OceanAir might have a fair domestic network that can support long haul operations -but that is still far away-.


User currently offlineTurk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4111 times:

Is OceanAir still going to be rebranded as Avianca?

User currently offlineTroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

How is Ocean Air perceived in Brazil?

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2196 times:
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Quoting Turk223 (Reply 5):
Is OceanAir still going to be rebranded as Avianca?

No. They realized that Avianca brand would kill their brand as other airlines will begin to advertise they are the "Brazilians".

Quoting Troest (Reply 6):
How is Ocean Air perceived in Brazil?

They have a good product. The problem is that many times they are not reliable in terms of routes. They begin and end without too much advise.
Also, the idea i have is that they got their chance... and waste it.

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 4):
Luanda and Lagos were not even attempted.
Out of those planes, the 757 is flying for AV, 2 767s returned to the lessor and another one is parked in MDE awaiting a new owner,

Perfect. Their plans for international long haul was totally wrong. First they do not have any sizeable feed, second, they do not have tradition and decided to venture on a route just because of city-size instead of looking for some of Brazilian top "missing flights" like Northeast-USA, CNF-USA, BSB-USA. Further, bad (i also say almost zero) marketing concludes my exposition.

Quoting LPSHobby (Thread starter):
Ocean Air has an order for A330s, 320s and 319s, will them receive these aircraft?

In my opinion, they will not receive such planes.



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User currently offlineAlianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2161 times:



Quoting Summa767 (Reply 4):
OceanAir has been consolidating in a smaller network. Punctuality and load factor have improved drastically.

This could be a result of Avianca's management team that is working with Ocean Air.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 7):
Further, bad (i also say almost zero) marketing concludes my exposition.

Then, after those comments, they have a great deal of work and investment ahead of them. Besides TAM and the other larger airlines, they are up against the new Azul as well. At least the lower cost of fuel is on their side, while they work to re-grow their network.



Saludos,


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