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Preview Of DL's New Thompson Flat-bed J Seats  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6385 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 14923 times:

Well, on Widgetheads.net (formerly Koolaiders.com), a preview picture of DL's new Thompson flat-bed J seats has been posted there. I will also post it here:
http://widgetheads.net/photos/1804.jpg

Looks great! Now we should wait until DL paints this aircraft in SkyTeam livery.


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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1309 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 14809 times:

Wow!

Looks great and can't wait to give it a try! What is the first route for this configuration? IIRC ATL-LHR or JFK-LHR?



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2220 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 14781 times:
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I hope by the time this cabin is finished these look a little more ummm, professional or a least have the seat covers fit. Looks like a cheap suit here. I'm sure they will.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 14754 times:

The seats look very nice. Thompson has a good design, and I'm sure they'll be very comfortable.

But what were they thinking when they chose those colors? That blue and light grey go great together...in a hospital. In an airplane, not so much.  yuck 

Those panels between the seats need some more variety of color in them.

-Mir



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User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14709 times:

In case you've not flown Delta in the past 3 years, the entire cabin is blue and grey(ish). There's nothing new about the pic in regards to color scheme.

I agree it can look a little drab sometimes, but it screams clean and cool. After having just flown an NW 757 (F), an AA 757 (F), and a US 319 (Y) - Delta is MILES above most of the competition with a clean, sharp looking cabin. I felt like I was sitting in a 3rd world country on AA, NW, and US.



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14678 times:

Nice seats - dont like the colour though, but they look comfy enough....but its still DL.

That means no matter how good you think the hard product is, it is still DL. Poor food, aloof and anonymous service, appalling ground service, poor IFE choice with lots of channels but nothing worth watching or listening to, poor wine list, and a noisy old 767.

Even with these new seats they wont be a patch on CO, VS or BA across the pond in C.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14644 times:



Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 4):

I agree it can look a little drab sometimes, but it screams clean and cool. After having just flown an NW 757 (F), an AA 757 (F), and a US 319 (Y) - Delta is MILES above most of the competition with a clean, sharp looking cabin. I felt like I was sitting in a 3rd world country on AA, NW, and US.

I dont really think you need to go that far in saying coach class on above listed carries is like starving, having no electricty, being in poverty... etc etc



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14623 times:



Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 4):
In case you've not flown Delta in the past 3 years, the entire cabin is blue and grey(ish). There's nothing new about the pic in regards to color scheme.

I'm familiar with the colors, and I don't have a problem with the blue. But when you add in the slabs of grey staring you in the face, it really doesn't work.

Put a widget there in a different shade of grey, put some wavey lines, whatever - something so that the panel doesn't look flat.

Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 4):
I agree it can look a little drab sometimes, but it screams clean and cool.

It screams cost-cutting. That's fine in Y, and might even be fine in domestic F, since everyone else is doing it, too. But this is an international C product, and so the standard is higher.

-Mir



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29654 posts, RR: 84
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14624 times:
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I am guessing this is for their 767 fleet?

User currently offlineOcracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14597 times:



Quoting M404 (Reply 2):
I hope by the time this cabin is finished these look a little more ummm, professional or a least have the seat covers fit

Seat covers fitting? I would worry about them putting the oxygen masks back, getting the wiring out of the aisles, and getting the carpet back into shape first! Big grin  Big grin


User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14546 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 7):
It screams cost-cutting.

We will disagree then, as would most of the world over the issue of color. Color is a merely a personal preference. For everyone you find that doesn't like the grey and blue, I'll find someone that does. Color doesn't demonstrate cost cutting. Low quality of materials would. If it were about cost cutting, I doubt Delta would be spending buckets of cash to refurbish these cabins, buying what's considered a highly rated seat.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5):
That means no matter how good you think the hard product is, it is still DL. Poor food, aloof and anonymous service, appalling ground service, poor IFE choice with lots of channels but nothing worth watching or listening to, poor wine list, and a noisy old 767.

Even with these new seats they wont be a patch on CO, VS or BA across the pond in C.

I guess the 100's of 1000's of people that choose to fly Delta across the pond (like me) instead of CO, VS, and BA, are just a bunch of morons that don't know what the hell they are doing then.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14539 times:

Compare to LX's business class. Same seats:



The colors are different, sure, but note that there is some texture on both the seats themselves and on the panels in between the seats, which makes the whole thing look a lot better.

You don't need the texturing on both the seat and the panel, but you need to have it on at least one of the two, preferably the panel. Flat blue and flat grey may be Delta's colors, but adapting them slightly is much better than trying to shoehorn them into a design that they just don't work well with. It shows a lack of attention to detail.

-Mir



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User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14483 times:

I do agree the texture on the fabric on LX adds something for sure.


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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3196 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14424 times:



Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 10):
I guess the 100's of 1000's of people that choose to fly Delta across the pond (like me) instead of CO, VS, and BA, are just a bunch of morons that don't know what the hell they are doing then.

I'd say you've just fallen victim to the golden handcuffs called miles.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24307 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14375 times:

LX looks classy. DL looks more institutional.


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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14374 times:

I agree that they could do a bit more to spruce up the appearance (ala LX above). DL's new seats on the 777LR look like yoga mats for instance.

That said, these look pretty nice. I'd certainly give 'em a try.


User currently offlineOzvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14359 times:



Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 10):
I guess the 100's of 1000's of people that choose to fly Delta across the pond (like me) instead of CO, VS, and BA, are just a bunch of morons that don't know what the hell they are doing then.

Okay, firstly, Hundreds of Thousands?? Not in business class. If they filled every seat o every flight to LHR in J class, they'd barely clock up 40,000 pax.

That aside, I don't think CHRISBA777ER was attacking you, or anyone other Delta passenger's mental state. He simply expressed his opinion about how the new DL seats will compare to some it's (big) competitors. I have to say I agree with him. I've flown many may times in Upper Class on VS, and Club World on BA, both of which have been flat beds for a number of years, and they are pretty hard to beat. This new DL product looks a bit dated before it's rolled out.

Again, this is just MY opinion..

Ozvirginuk


User currently onlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5225 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14348 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 11):
The colors are different, sure, but note that there is some texture on both the seats themselves and on the panels in between the seats, which makes the whole thing look a lot better.

You do realize that that is a computer generated image right? Until we see a "real life" picture of LX's interior, we can't really make any sort of valid comparison to that of DL.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 5):
That means no matter how good you think the hard product is, it is still DL. Poor food, aloof and anonymous service, appalling ground service, poor IFE choice with lots of channels but nothing worth watching or listening to, poor wine list, and a noisy old 767.

Even with these new seats they wont be a patch on CO, VS or BA across the pond in C.

My experiences have been quite the opposite. Onboard staff is almost always top-notch on DL and ground service has been quite good. Overall, DL really isn't as bad as you make them out to be. Additionally, one of the biggest a.net myths is that CO is somehow above and beyond any other US airline when that is really not the case.

Finally, with regards to the "noisy old 767", many of DL's 763's and certainly the 764 are not all that old. In fact, BA and VS operate 744's, 777's, and A340's that are all older than some of DL's 767s.

[Edited 2009-03-10 22:02:36]


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User currently onlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5225 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14334 times:



Quoting Ozvirginuk (Reply 16):
Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 10):I guess the 100's of 1000's of people that choose to fly Delta across the pond (like me) instead of CO, VS, and BA, are just a bunch of morons that don't know what the hell they are doing then.
Okay, firstly, Hundreds of Thousands?? Not in business class. If they filled every seat o every flight to LHR in J class, they'd barely clock up 40,000 pax.

Um there is more across the pond than just LHR.



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User currently offlineGayStudPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 450 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14300 times:

I'm not a fan of Delta's blue. I find the cabin to be stark, cold, and lacking sophistication like SQ or Virgin Atlantic. I think JoAnne Smith did a great job pushing Delta's inflight product forward but her choice in colors (coupled with the tan duvet and amenities kit) was way off. LX did a much better job, but then again I prefer earth tones.

I like BA's New Club World, but their color choice I also find to be stark.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14290 times:



Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 10):
Color doesn't demonstrate cost cutting. Low quality of materials would.

And that's the problem. The grey plastic looks like cheap grey plastic, whether it actually is or not.

There's nothing to distinguish this seat from one in Y, other than the different shape. The seat is the same color, and the same texture (none). On most airlines, there will be at least a slight difference.

It looks like DL took a basic coach seat and gave it some extra amenities. A business class product shouldn't look like an upgraded coach product, it should look like its own product.

Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 10):
If it were about cost cutting, I doubt Delta would be spending buckets of cash to refurbish these cabins, buying what's considered a highly rated seat.

Buying a highly rated seat and then putting (seemingly) low quality materials on it does speak of a cost-cutting mentality. It's like saying "we'll go 90% of the way, but we won't bother with the last 10% because it's too expensive." That's not appropriate for a premium cabin - if you can't afford to finish a design nicely, find another design that you can and go with that one. It will end up looking better.

The sad thing is that I don't think DL was designing this cabin with cost-cutting in mind. But it does come across that way.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 17):
You do realize that that is a computer generated image right?

Yes. There are real photos of scale models out there, but I chose the one I did because the angle makes it easier to see the front of the seat, and was closest to the angle used in the OP.

-Mir



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User currently offlineOzvirginuk From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 396 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14263 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
Um there is more across the pond than just LHR.

Point taken, although the comparison being drawn was against two airlines that operate their base from LHR. Such was my thinking.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14258 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 17):
My experiences have been quite the opposite. Onboard staff is almost always top-notch on DL and ground service has been quite good. Overall, DL really isn't as bad as you make them out to be. Additionally, one of the biggest a.net myths is that CO is somehow above and beyond any other US airline when that is really not the case.

Finally, with regards to the "noisy old 767", many of DL's 763's and certainly the 764 are not all that old. In fact, BA and VS operate 744's, 777's, and A340's that are all older than some of DL's 767s

Its subjective - everyone has their own opinions, but having flown CO, UA, AA and DL more than a dozen times internally in the US, to/from the Caribbean, and also across the pond with work, I can say with absolute certainty that CO is absolutely head and shoulders above the rest in just about every department - in my experience of course.

Never had a bad flight with CO, their hard product in both classes is very good, catering is on a par with the European majors and service has, universally, been outstanding.

My last flights with CO were EWR-SXM-EWR and in both cases the cabin crew were absolutely top notch, and frankly, better in every respect than every airline i've ever flown, apart from SQ. For me, they are so much better than AA, UA or DL that it is not funny.

As for "old" 767s, well what would you rather be on - a 1996 vintage 744 or A343, or a 1996 vintage 763ER? I know which I'd pick! (FYI i'd take the A340 over just about anything, every time).

The new seat as shown above is decent, but as the previous poster points out, it looks dated already. The colours are drab, the finish looks uninspiring and it is very "samey" - compare that with the genuinely cool VS Upper Class seat and VS is a clear winner. OK, CO's C seat is a wee bit outdated but their soft product is excellent and miles better than DL's. I'd take CO in a heartbeat even if the seat is not as good.

Either way, extremely unlikely to get me paying my hard earned to fly on DL anytime soon, unless there is no choice. Luckily there usually is.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently onlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5225 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14247 times:

Unbelievable! It often seems like DL is damned if they do and damned if they don't on this site. If DL hadn't upgraded to lie flats everyone would be bitching about how uncompetitive the product is. Now that DL is moving toward lie-flats, people are bitching about the seats being low quality, looking institutional, and resembling a hospital ward. I recall complaints on here regarding the lie-flats on the 77L before the aircraft had even gone into revenue service and before any of the complainers had actually sat in the seats. How about we actually wait until the mods are finished and the product is in service before making value judgements?

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
Buying a highly rated seat and then putting (seemingly) low quality materials on it does speak of a cost-cutting mentality. It's like saying "we'll go 90% of the way, but we won't bother with the last 10% because it's too expensive." That's not appropriate for a premium cabin - if you can't afford to finish a design nicely, find another design that you can and go with that one. It will end up looking better.

You're basing all these judgements on a low quality picture of an aircraft that has not yet completed its modifications. I'm willing to bet you have not sat in these seats or in LX's seats so arguing that DL's seats have been installed with low quality materials isn't something you can state with any certainty.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21080 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 14210 times:



Quoting OA412 (Reply 23):
so arguing that DL's seats have been installed with low quality materials isn't something you can state with any certainty.

"Looks cheap" and "is cheap" are not the same thing. I never said that the materials were cheap.

-Mir



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25 GayStudPilot : Isn't CO installing a similar seat in BF? How do the materials compare? I agree, COs inflight service is good. I also like DLs. Not a fan of other US
26 Pilotboi : Thank you 1337 for posting the pic from my site. I was going to, but never got around to it. The person who took that photo got to try out the seat hi
27 Lufthansa : So are you worried we're gonna kick Delta out of Australia and say we think their products look like they stole them from the Matron... oh and the FA
28 PlanesNTrains : Sorry, but the Deltoids can't have their cake and eat it too. In case you have missed it, there a rabid few who extoll the virtues of Delta any chanc
29 DLPMMM : Gee, you must sure get a poor luck of the draw. The food I have gotten on DL international C flights has been on par or better than the BA food in F,
30 Post contains links Mir : Judging by the picture in this thread, the seats will indeed be similar: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4077687/ Ma
31 COEI2007 : The seats look quite thin. I prefer the colours LX use for the same seat; makes them look far more professional
32 Mayor : I had some old lawn furniture that looked better than LX's seats. Well, I don't know about you, but I actually SIT in the seat and not stand there and
33 AFKL : Sorry, if this has already been asked and answered before, but what about the Herringbone DL BusinessElite seats? These havn't been around for very lo
34 1337Delta764 : As far as I know, DL will continue to use the Contour Premium Solar herringbone suites on the 777 fleet. The 772ERs should get them by 2010. As for w
35 Incitatus : The concept is awesome. I hope it works for Delta and other airlines get it too. Now airlines just have to figure out how get the poor souls in coach
36 Seemyseems : That colour is UUUUGLY! But I guess they need it as they have a large fleet.
37 Aeroflot777 : Thanks for asking, I'm confused as well. So in the long run, is DL going to have 2 different BusinessElite products? The Herringbone on the 777s and
38 Aeroflot777 : Also, is the economy class getting that one weird Thompson seat upgrade as well? Aeroflot777
39 Qantas777 : BA Chris 777, Can you get me a decibel level on the 767-400ER vs other airplanes? I would think the noise level is similar to other products; even new
40 Post contains links FFlyerWorld : This is what Delta's Y class will be getting very soon - on 67's and 77's plus would not surprise me on 47's depending if they keep them for long or n
41 United1 : Actually so far it looks like DL will have 3 different types of BusinessElite seats.... Herringbone on the 777 (possibly on the 744) Thompson on the
42 Evan767 : Why do these types of threads always come down to biased, rude comments from both parties: those who are pro-Delta and those who are anti-Delta? The s
43 DELTA7478 : I wonder how many Business Elite seats there will be on both the 767-300ER and 400??
44 Burnsie28 : Get on an NW A333 or NW 757 TATL and you will change your mind.
45 NWA757300 : I agree. The LX cabin appears warm, inviting and comfortable and just because of some texture and different shades of the same color. DL looks steril
46 Lufthansa411 : For me it comes down to the material on the seat. It looks like one of those chairs that convert to beds in hospital rooms. That being said.... It wo
47 1337Delta764 : DL's seats are LEATHER, not vinyl! Why can't anyone get this in their heads?
48 Haggis79 : well, I'd prefer them being cloth, at least for long-haul planes.... leather seats make my back feel sweaty after some time...
49 Pfletch1228 : Does anyone know if DL will be installing the "Lantal Pneumatic Seat cushions" into the Vantage seat like Swiss have? Who cares about how it looks, I
50 BrianDromey : I think the seat itself wont win any awards for glamour, in the way the VS seat looks like a premium product in terms of material choice and color sel
51 GSPSPOT : How about a RED widget somewhere? Or, dare I suggest it, honest-to-God red seats! I can hear the gasps now, but I mean, why do DL seem to be scared o
52 Haggis79 : I agree on that - the seat layout looks comfortable to me when travelling alone as well as when travelling with a partner
53 M11Stephen : I think it looks pretty good. The seats don't look that comfortable but I really shouldn't judge since I haven't actually sat in them yet. The cabin d
54 Mayor : Isn't blue a color?
55 Lufthansa411 : The fact that many people seem to make that mistake makes me think it is not so much the people that make the mistake, but the perceived quality of t
56 Alitalia744 : 1) Nobody has sat in these seats except for a select few so it is hard for you all to judge without having experienced them.... 2) Delta's core equity
57 GSPSPOT : Of course it is! People ARE allowed to take a little license to make a point here, aren't they?? BUT, the shades of "blue" used by DL to my eye are m
58 GSPSPOT : That's all fine & dandy for all you who love technicalities, but those dull seats don't make much of an impression (not a positive one, anyway).
59 Post contains links Viscount724 : Agreed. Few carriers use leather on longhaul aircraft. It's OK on shorthaul flights (and hard to avoid on many carriers) but on a longhaul flight clo
60 Mayor : Like I said before..................
61 UAL757 : Whoa, those are some awkward looking seats. Anyone agree? It looks like 1-2-1, right? Isn't is 2-2-2 now? Will there be less seats?
62 Oa412 : Bear in mind that while LX is fitting 5 across on their A330's and A340's, DL will only be placing 4 across in the 767 so I don't believe you'll be s
63 1337Delta764 : Speaking of color, I remember that DL used to have different colors of seats on their planes, usually red, blue, and gray. However, some aircraft had
64 KingAir200 : It's nice that DL has moved to upgrade the 764's interior and as people have said, we really won't know what the seats are like until we get to sit in
65 Viscount724 : Thanks. That explains it. Wasn't clear from the photo that the DL layout was 4-abreast.
66 Klkla : There will be a couple less seats (I think it's 40 compared to 42 now). But, if you look closely the seats are staggered. By doing this they were abl
67 RwSEA : Well, it LOOKS and FEELS like vinyl, even if it is leather. I think that's the argument that a lot of people are making ... DL could have gone the ex
68 CokePopper : who knew the A.net had so many "closeted" interior designers lol... As many have suggested, taste is subjective. I personally think that the LX scheme
69 GSPSPOT : So much for differentiating one's company in the marketplace...
70 Incitatus : I believe the LX configuration is not 5-abreast, it is 4.5-abreast - that is - every other row has 5 seats. That is the standard suite configuration
71 Rwy04LGA : My thoughts exactly. Echos of Ricardo Montalban.
72 KingAir200 : Haha of course. I rediscovered that old Chrysler Cordoba commercial on YouTube today.
73 LDVAviation : Awkward indeed. Unlike any other lie-flat seat I've seen, including the angled lie-flat, the top of this seat seems to have no free space behind the
74 CHRISBA777ER : Yes and how many of those do you have? TATL its basically a knackered old 763ER and the very occasional 764ER. CO have them too, you know! The NW A33
75 DLPMMM : I personally prefer leather, as I can only imaging the things that are living in or seeped into cloth seats over time with thousands of uses. Ugh!
76 Airtechy : I would presume that Delta buys these "ready to install"....i.e. complete with seat covers, etc. Therefore, why would the covers need to be adjusted?
77 DLPMMM : A very strange statement considering that the average age of the "knackered old" DL767 fleet is 12.8 years, while the BA 744 fleet has an average age
78 PlanesNTrains : Touche'! I'm not sure how much will really change by the time it's done, but I guess we'll see. I don't expect to ever be sitting in these, so I real
79 CHRISBA777ER : Some of BA's 744s may indeed be "knackered" and many are very old indeed by current standards, but they are still nicer than the DL 763s in my experi
80 Haggis79 : well, sometimes things are not about facts, but about perception - and DL's 763 certainly feel old from inside... regardless of their actual age.
81 DLPMMM : My point is that I disagree if the BA744 has not been updated with the latest product. The old Club World hard product is much worse than the old Bus
82 Smi0006 : I am curious was the decison made to put these seats in the 767 and not the 777 as these seats would be very difficult to climb out of if in the cente
83 OA412 : You're correct. I'd forgotten about that. As I recall the configurartion is something like 2-2-1/1-2-1.[Edited 2009-03-12 00:08:33]
84 RetroLivery : Allow me to present a simple syllogism if you will: DL is not LX LX is not DL Therefore DL and LX are not the same, and never will be. Stop comparing
85 Flyguy89 : Just a couple observations, I can't for the life of me understand why US legacies are almost constantly lagging behind their competitors, not just on
86 Phollingsworth : So very true. People here seem to have devolved into a bunch of blithering morons. Each one of us has a preference, it holds for us and only for us;
87 Post contains links and images BrianDromey : A very good post. Like I said earlier no one is going to gush over the colour palette chosen, but no one will be offended by it either. FWIW I also a
88 SQuared : Herringbone seats can work on a B767-- AC currently does this across their B777, B763, and now progressively on their A333s. This allows for a consis
89 1337Delta764 : Yes, they are Contour Premium Solar Suites. As for why DL isn't installing them on the 767 is because it would cause a significant loss in J capacity
90 GSPSPOT : Yes, it's two-toned, and yes, it's better than the seats shown at the top of this thread, but still 2 tones of BLAH. Are (U.S.) airlines so afraid of
91 BrianDromey : Could happen, or they might just get leather seat covers across the 744 and 330 fleet, afterall the seats are already lie-flat, albeit not 180 degree
92 1337Delta764 : I am guessing that is what DL will do initially. However, I think eventually DL will introduce a true-flat solution for the A330 and 744 fleet. As fo
93 CokePopper : Perhaps they're waiting for approval of the Cozy seats?
94 MotorHussy : Hear, hear! New scheme looks like a retired marine did a course on interior design. The Swiss version is so much more inviting. IMHO of course MH PS
95 United1 : Hey now.. even I would have done it in MARPAT vs a solid blue I think it would look better if the leather wasn't so loose fitting and if they had kep
96 Pilotboi : Sorry guys, had to remove the pic, per Delta. Dunno why...but apparently they don't want anyone to see it yet. Even though hundreds have already. Whoo
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