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Ryanair Interested In Using Carlisle Airport?  
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24811 posts, RR: 56
Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk...he-region-will-remain-a.5036363.jp

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However, she revealed that the current owner W. A. Developments, which includes the Eddie Stobart haulage business, has recently had plans to extend and resurface the runway and build a new terminal approved. The proposed £20million investment is to cater for freight and passenger services, and Ryanair has already expressed an interest in using the Carlisle Airport as a hub.

First that I've heard about that?


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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2785 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3785 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
Ryanair has already expressed an interest in using the Carlisle Airport as a hub.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

- No radar

- Non-precision/Visual approaches only

- Opening Hours 0900 - 1830

- LDA on 07, 1321M, see below

- One runway exit, at the mid point, no turning circles along runway

- All runways have a public transport weight limit of 12500 kg.

- Active parachuting club on airfield

- Fire cover RFF Cat 2

- Just one shared entry/exit taxiway connecting runway with apron (incorporating light aircraft engine run-up area)

They should have kept this back until April 1st.  wink 



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24811 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3762 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 1):
They should have kept this back until April 1st. wink

As part of Eddie Stobart buying the airfield, they have to redevelop the passenger terminal and runway  Wink

They also want to start flights between Carlisle and London Southend airport, possibly using Eastern Airways Jetscreams  Wink

http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk/documents/Drawing08.pdf
http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk/documents/AirportleafletNEW.pdf
http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3748 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
First that I've heard about that?

What rock have you been hiding under? This was mentioned as soon as W.A announced they were going to upgrade the airport. Ryanair have been sniffing around since day one saying they would start flights if the price was right.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 1):
They should have kept this back until April 1st. wink

You appear to have missed this bit of GKiks post:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
However, she revealed that the current owner W. A. Developments, which includes the Eddie Stobart haulage business, has recently had plans to extend and resurface the runway and build a new terminal approved. The proposed £20million investment is to cater for freight and passenger services, and Ryanair has already expressed an interest in using the Carlisle Airport as a hub.




That'll teach you
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7204 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

I thought that the Stobbart plan had died a death, clearly not.

Question is, does FR for the facilities or does Carlisle pay him to come.  Smile


User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3204 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Carlisle has an airport?  Confused


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User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1558 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

My prediction:

Stobart will pay for the airport to be upgraded. Ryanair will come in and negotiate the lowest possible price for landing fees that would not even make the support sustainable for the airport. Ryanair will have about 10 flights per day operating then realise that actually no-one wants to fly from there and withdraw citing that the local authorities did not do enough to promote the service/the airport charges are too high/the Boeing strike has affected their deliveries (delete where applicable).

Lapper


User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1775 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3595 times:



Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 5):
Carlisle has an airport?

Yeah but Ryanair call it Newcastle West Big grin



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User currently offlineAAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3522 times:

Ryanair should use CVT it already has a interim terminal with secuity facilities!

Carsile is still under developed!


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7204 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3468 times:

Given the problems faced by TOM/Wizz, does Coventry want an Airport.

iirc the reason why these airlines left was obstruction by local authorities.


User currently offlineSean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3424 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 7):
Yeah but Ryanair call it Newcastle West

LOL! Or Tyne Valley or something.

Quoting AAMDanny (Reply 8):
Ryanair should use CVT it already has a interim terminal with secuity facilities!

Heck of a long drive from Carlisle!  Silly



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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2785 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3424 times:



Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 3):
You appear to have missed this bit of GKiks post:

I got that bit.  eyebrow 

The "recent" planning approval was back in December, granted on the condition Stobart Air resurface the runway and construct a passenger terminal, complete with access roads.

£20M to do all that, plus the freight terminal, plus Stobart's new headquarters is pure fantasy.

The approach/climb out goes straight through the Spadeadam Danger Area, which is categorised as H24 active. RAF Spadeadam is the largest base in the UK, and is home to the EWT Range and IRBM testing . Anyone unfamiliar with their activities should look here: http://www.spadeadam.biz/

There is no local radar, and Scottish/Manchester centres both have low level radar cover blind spots due to high ground rising to 3,000ft just 12 miles east of the airfield.

Plans to re-allign the runway away from the Spadeadam Danger Area and to install an ILS have been ditched because "the airlines Stobart Air is talking to now are not insisting on ILS."

So, short runway, non-precision approaches, no radar, inferior weather trend, next to the centre for IRBM testing, high ground, plus the fact Air Stobart's own literature clearly states they are looking to accomodate aircraft only up to ATR72 size; how does Ryanair fit in to any of that? The upgrade costs to accomodate B738 size aircraft at Carlisle would be, frankly, monopoly money.

The most Carlisle can hope for is passenger service to Southend and perhaps Amsterdam with a J41 or ATR, with possibly B733 freighters for Stobart and his Tesco contract.



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24811 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3135 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 11):
The most Carlisle can hope for is passenger service to Southend and perhaps Amsterdam with a J41 or ATR, with possibly B733 freighters for Stobart and his Tesco contract.

I'd agree...

Southend - 2 x Daily Eastern Airways J41
Dublin - 1 x Daily Aer Arann ATR42

That'll be it, maybe a summer Air Southwest Dash8 charter to Jersey as well



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