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Ryanair Interested In Using Carlisle Airport?  
User currently offlineGkirk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk...he-region-will-remain-a.5036363.jp

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However, she revealed that the current owner W. A. Developments, which includes the Eddie Stobart haulage business, has recently had plans to extend and resurface the runway and build a new terminal approved. The proposed £20million investment is to cater for freight and passenger services, and Ryanair has already expressed an interest in using the Carlisle Airport as a hub.

First that I've heard about that?

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User currently onlineBlueShamu330s From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4456 times:
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Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
Ryanair has already expressed an interest in using the Carlisle Airport as a hub.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

- No radar

- Non-precision/Visual approaches only

- Opening Hours 0900 - 1830

- LDA on 07, 1321M, see below

- One runway exit, at the mid point, no turning circles along runway

- All runways have a public transport weight limit of 12500 kg.

- Active parachuting club on airfield

- Fire cover RFF Cat 2

- Just one shared entry/exit taxiway connecting runway with apron (incorporating light aircraft engine run-up area)

They should have kept this back until April 1st.  wink 


User currently offlineGkirk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4433 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 1):
They should have kept this back until April 1st. wink

As part of Eddie Stobart buying the airfield, they have to redevelop the passenger terminal and runway  Wink

They also want to start flights between Carlisle and London Southend airport, possibly using Eastern Airways Jetscreams  Wink

http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk/documents/Drawing08.pdf
http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk/documents/AirportleafletNEW.pdf
http://www.carlisleairport.co.uk


User currently offlineNighthawk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4419 times:



Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
First that I've heard about that?

What rock have you been hiding under? This was mentioned as soon as W.A announced they were going to upgrade the airport. Ryanair have been sniffing around since day one saying they would start flights if the price was right.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 1):
They should have kept this back until April 1st. wink

You appear to have missed this bit of GKiks post:

Quoting Gkirk (Thread starter):
However, she revealed that the current owner W. A. Developments, which includes the Eddie Stobart haulage business, has recently had plans to extend and resurface the runway and build a new terminal approved. The proposed £20million investment is to cater for freight and passenger services, and Ryanair has already expressed an interest in using the Carlisle Airport as a hub.



User currently offlineBennett123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4324 times:

I thought that the Stobbart plan had died a death, clearly not.

Question is, does FR for the facilities or does Carlisle pay him to come.  Smile


User currently offlineDaleaholic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

Carlisle has an airport?  Confused

User currently offlineLapper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

My prediction:

Stobart will pay for the airport to be upgraded. Ryanair will come in and negotiate the lowest possible price for landing fees that would not even make the support sustainable for the airport. Ryanair will have about 10 flights per day operating then realise that actually no-one wants to fly from there and withdraw citing that the local authorities did not do enough to promote the service/the airport charges are too high/the Boeing strike has affected their deliveries (delete where applicable).

Lapper


User currently offlineSketty222 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4266 times:



Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 5):
Carlisle has an airport?

Yeah but Ryanair call it Newcastle West Big grin


User currently offlineAAMDanny From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

Ryanair should use CVT it already has a interim terminal with secuity facilities!

Carsile is still under developed!


User currently offlineBennett123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Given the problems faced by TOM/Wizz, does Coventry want an Airport.

iirc the reason why these airlines left was obstruction by local authorities.


User currently offlineSean377 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4095 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 7):
Yeah but Ryanair call it Newcastle West

LOL! Or Tyne Valley or something.

Quoting AAMDanny (Reply 8):
Ryanair should use CVT it already has a interim terminal with secuity facilities!

Heck of a long drive from Carlisle!  Silly


User currently onlineBlueShamu330s From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4095 times:
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Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 3):
You appear to have missed this bit of GKiks post:

I got that bit.  eyebrow 

The "recent" planning approval was back in December, granted on the condition Stobart Air resurface the runway and construct a passenger terminal, complete with access roads.

£20M to do all that, plus the freight terminal, plus Stobart's new headquarters is pure fantasy.

The approach/climb out goes straight through the Spadeadam Danger Area, which is categorised as H24 active. RAF Spadeadam is the largest base in the UK, and is home to the EWT Range and IRBM testing . Anyone unfamiliar with their activities should look here: http://www.spadeadam.biz/

There is no local radar, and Scottish/Manchester centres both have low level radar cover blind spots due to high ground rising to 3,000ft just 12 miles east of the airfield.

Plans to re-allign the runway away from the Spadeadam Danger Area and to install an ILS have been ditched because "the airlines Stobart Air is talking to now are not insisting on ILS."

So, short runway, non-precision approaches, no radar, inferior weather trend, next to the centre for IRBM testing, high ground, plus the fact Air Stobart's own literature clearly states they are looking to accomodate aircraft only up to ATR72 size; how does Ryanair fit in to any of that? The upgrade costs to accomodate B738 size aircraft at Carlisle would be, frankly, monopoly money.

The most Carlisle can hope for is passenger service to Southend and perhaps Amsterdam with a J41 or ATR, with possibly B733 freighters for Stobart and his Tesco contract.


User currently offlineGkirk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3806 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 11):
The most Carlisle can hope for is passenger service to Southend and perhaps Amsterdam with a J41 or ATR, with possibly B733 freighters for Stobart and his Tesco contract.

I'd agree...

Southend - 2 x Daily Eastern Airways J41
Dublin - 1 x Daily Aer Arann ATR42

That'll be it, maybe a summer Air Southwest Dash8 charter to Jersey as well


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