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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1721 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 25434 times:

With Thread 19 already well above 200 replies I thought of opening nr. 20!

You can find nr 19 here : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...al_aviation/read.main/4256406/#210

With the news of LX being equiped with the Bombardier C-series and the soon to arrive A330-300's there is already enough to speculate and discuss

Cheers,
Joost(D-ALCE)


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User currently offlineSandroZRH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 25281 times:

More news:

Swiss posts CHF507M profit in 2008:

http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...usiness%20Report_FINAL_E%20_3_.pdf


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 25234 times:



Quoting Ka (Reply 227):
You will see the same with the A340s - with their cabin upgrade starting this year you will see them flying well into the second half of next decade.

At least 6 A343's will be breaking the record for getting two new cabin interiors within 2 or 3 years  Wink

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 233):

What a sweet looking bird. They're talking about replacing the Avros one by one (20 aircraft) plus using the additional 10 aircraft for expansion. If this really comes to fruitation, the SWU fleet will grow by 33% until 2017/18, good news.

Those are good news. In the meanwhile we will surely see the A32S fleet also grow by around 1 aircraft a year and once it is time for the Avro fleet renewal / expansion the economic crisis will be over as well  Smile


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1843 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 25066 times:

Looks like Easyjet will be starting a daily flight from LGW to ZRH from 2 April on. Flight arrives around 19h30 and leaves again around 20h00.

User currently offlineSandroZRH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 25046 times:



Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 3):
Looks like Easyjet will be starting a daily flight from LGW to ZRH from 2 April on.

I was told that they are to shift their ZRH service from LTN to LGW, so it is in fact not a new service, just a new departure airport. Clearly to counter EI's new daily LGW-ZRH service.

I'm not sure how accurate this info is though. Btw i had my English proficiency check the other day, drop me a pm if you want to know more about it  Wink


User currently offlineLXM83 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 25016 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
I was told that they are to shift their ZRH service from LTN to LGW, so it is in fact not a new service

No, during summer schedule, they will have 2 daily flights to LTN and 1 daily flight to LGW. So it is a new service, indeed.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
Clearly to counter EI's new daily LGW-ZRH service

Correct.


User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 24984 times:

It seems like Swiss will return to Oslo (OSL) with a twice daily A319 flight to Zurich (ZRH) from June 19th.  Smile

From Norwegian newspaper:
http://www.aftenposten.no/reise/nyheter/article2972213.ece


User currently offlineEmirates2005 From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 24886 times:

Could anyone shine a light on what will be the increase in capacity for Swissair to DXB in 2009?

I tried searching for the news article, but could not find it.

Thanks for your help!



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1721 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 24871 times:



Quoting Emirates2005 (Reply 7):
Could anyone shine a light on what will be the increase in capacity for Swissair to DXB in 2009?

Unfortunately SR will not fly  Wink
LX however will operate a daily 343 into DXB, so no changes AFIAK.



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 24617 times:

A SWISS Maître de Cabine told me that they got an internal message on Thursday that SIN will be axed. If true, it is not surprising. Probably Sandro can confirm this.

Today I saw a LH A 343 at Dock E at ZRH. It seems that SWISS has another long-haul wet-lease. It serves the BOS flight since a few day. Again a pilot shortage?


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 24553 times:



Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Reply 9):
Today I saw a LH A 343 at Dock E at ZRH. It seems that SWISS has another long-haul wet-lease. It serves the BOS flight since a few day. Again a pilot shortage?

LX will anyway operate less flights compared to last year as they have reduced frequencies to quite a few destinations. That LX is wet leasing on a few occasions an LH aircraft + crew for BOS flights is for precautionary reasons that LX will not have a shortage towards the end of the year.Hence crew members should have it easier this year to get holidays and the amount of oweverorked hours will probably also be reduced by the crew members.


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24473 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 9):
A SWISS Maître de Cabine told me that they got an internal message on Thursday that SIN will be axed.

Oh oh.. so, say good bye to the long, thus famous and popular BKK/SIN rotations... Did he mention anything about a possible tag on alternatives?



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User currently offlineLXA333 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24469 times:

Has Swiss received its first a330-300 yet? I thought service was supposed to start on April 1st to JFK...Guess not.


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User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 662 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24453 times:



Quoting LXA333 (Reply 12):
Has Swiss received its first a330-300 yet? I thought service was supposed to start on April 1st to JFK...Guess not.

No.
At the moment delivery is planned for week 15 - so no service before the Easter holidays.

KA.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 24448 times:
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I know that ZRH-JFK will be one of the first A330-300 routes, but is GVA-JFK likely to start before June? I will be in Geneva at the very beginning of June and would love to see it in person.

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User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 24414 times:



Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Reply 9):
A SWISS Maître de Cabine told me that they got an internal message on Thursday that SIN will be axed. If true, it is not surprising. Probably Sandro can confirm this.

Today I saw a LH A 343 at Dock E at ZRH. It seems that SWISS has another long-haul wet-lease. It serves the BOS flight since a few day. Again a pilot shortage?

My Maitre de Cabine just told me the same and that it is to happening pretty soon, e.g. next month. The SWISS aircraft would stay in BKK, while the BKK-SIN and SIN-BKK legs would be operated by a partner airline.

She, however, had no idea who that could be. Most likely choice would be TG, for they already have an established mutual code-share agreement between ZRH and BKK, while none exists between LX and SQ.


User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 662 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 24360 times:



Quoting CX288 (Reply 15):
The SWISS aircraft would stay in BKK

skyland.ch reports that of April 26, the flight will be renamed LX180 and terminate in BKK.

KA.



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User currently offlineHLZCPH From New Zealand, joined Nov 2007, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 24329 times:

Hi

Does anyone know why there is no LX0189 (Shanghai to Zurich) on 19th June 09? We've been shifted onto LH to FRA/CPH rather than ZRH/CPH.

Return flights on the 20th July, LX0188 Zurich Shanghai at this time have not been affected.

Seems We'll have to wait a little longer for the Swiss experience!



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User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 662 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 24243 times:



Quoting HLZCPH (Reply 17):
Does anyone know why there is no LX0189 (Shanghai to Zurich) on 19th June 09?

Until July LX has reduced frequencies to PVG, LAX, JNB, MIA, BOS, ORD, DEL and BOM to 6pw due to the economic situation.

KA.



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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 24051 times:



Quoting Ka (Reply 13):
No.
At the moment delivery is planned for week 15 - so no service before the Easter holidays.

Was this originaly scheduled or are there some delays?

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 14):
I know that ZRH-JFK will be one of the first A330-300 routes, but is GVA-JFK likely to start before June? I will be in Geneva at the very beginning of June and would love to see it in person.

Is this the idea to have the first 4 aircraft dedicated to all flights from Switzerland to JFK and YUL or only ZRH flights to JFK + YUL?


User currently offlineFlyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 24035 times:

Is YUL slated to be one of the first A330-300 routes? It's one of the few non-F stations in North America.

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 24023 times:



Quoting Flyyul (Reply 20):
Is YUL slated to be one of the first A330-300 routes? It's one of the few non-F stations in North America.

Actually with the new 333 all SWISS long-haul aircrafts will have F-class, so eventually YUL gets it anyway.


User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 662 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 23996 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 14):
but is GVA-JFK likely to start before June?

No.
The second A333 is not even planned for delivery before June. Unless the first one will be used on some ZRH-JFK-GVA-JFK-ZRH pattern you won´t be lucky.

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 19):
Was this originaly scheduled or are there some delays?

It was originally planned to deliver the first A333 in week 13. So yes, there is a slight delay.

KA.



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User currently offlineFlyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 23988 times:

it seems pretty clear that YUL MIA JFK and LAX are the best stations for LX, as they are the only ones not to be reduced with the cut backs.

The question is - who gets the A333 first, and what is the initial deployment plan?


User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 662 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23884 times:



Quoting Flyyul (Reply 23):
LAX are the best stations for LX, as they are the only ones not to be reduced with the cut backs.

LAX is getting reduced to 6pw.

Quoting Flyyul (Reply 23):
The question is - who gets the A333 first, (...)?

JFK.

KA.



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25 ANITIX87 : Which is what usually happens, right? I was under the impression that one A343 did ZRH-JFK-ZRH, and two A332 did ZRH-JFK-GVA-JFK-ZRH, and so that the
26 SandroZRH : JFK is no longer an A343 destination, it's all A332 now. ORD, MIA and BOS however are all served by A343s.
27 SInGAPORE_AIR : But I take it we still don't know when?
28 LXA340 : ZRH-JFK-ZRH is the first destination to be served by the A333. The first scheduled flight is planed for April 20th on LX014/LX017. As long as only on
29 LXfan : Hi ! I became today an e-mail from swiss about the new dispositions after the entry of the swiss airports in the schengen area, specially for the Sena
30 LXA340 : That's right the lounge in Terminal B is the old (Current) Lufthansa Star Alliance lounge. The Bellevue lounge is located at Dock E it is run by Swis
31 SInGAPORE_AIR : Thanks for that
32 OS763 : The flight is now is the GDS LX 014 ZRH JFK 100P 345P 333
33 SandroZRH : An aircraft that looked like a C130 Hercules just passed over Bassersdorf, climbing out of RWY10. Does anybody know what's up with that?
34 Thomas_Jaeger : Can confirm that, saw it leaving over my house in Kloten as well and it was a Hercules in army colours, could not identify it either.
35 LXA340 : Is it planed that one of the 11 A333's for LX will be painted in full Star Alliance livery?
36 DALCE : It would surprise me since other airlines are decreasing their share of Star Alliance livered aircraft. For example LH has repainted their 744 back i
37 LXM83 : Belair received the first ex-Air Berlin A320, HB-IOS (previously D-ABDK). It arrived in ZRH today, 20Mar09, at 17:38, on positioning flight AB669 from
38 LXA340 : It looks like an LX A332 (HB-IQO) went Tech at BOM 2 days ago as yesterdays return flight was cancelled, the plane arrived back this morning in additi
39 Snoopy : Hi Sandro Could it have been CNA-OL of the Royal Moroccan Air Force? I picked it up on my SBS-1 at about that time.
40 Thomas_Jaeger : I guess you are right Snoopy, this looks like what I saw.
41 SandroZRH : That's possible yes, it had a "sandy" military paint. Thanks for the info!
42 Ab1247 : So, has the maiden flight of the new LX A333 taken place? I'm dying for some photos of this bird, as well as a confirmed date of entry to service on
43 Post contains links and images Swissa330 : Well there's also on Flickr - no rivalry with A.net there i guess   http://www.flickr.com/photos/christophe-ramos/3380449382/sizes/o/$ BTW, it looks
44 FatmirJusufi : " target=_blank>http://www.flickr.com/photos/christo...s/o/$ The bird looks just awesome. Once as I saw quick I thought it was named Schweiz. Fatmir
45 ZRH : No. They name the birds after Cantons (states) and cities. "Schweiz" is the country Switzerland and "Schwyz" is a Canton. Therefore it is definitely
46 Post contains links SandroZRH : Good catch! I think the bigger font is a good idea, now they just need to paint the flags of the cantons (or the towns on the A32Ss) onto the aircraf
47 ZRH : Fortunately nothing happened. I am not a pilot and ask therefore: is the loss of the hydraulic system really that "minor" and not quite serious?
48 ZRH : I apologize at first I did not read it well: it says "loss of a system" and not of all hydraulic systems.
49 SandroZRH : The article is saying that they lost one hydraulic system, and (fortunately) not all of their hydraulics. A brief explanation: I'm not familiar with
50 Post contains links Poh2 : Finally, an official announcement from LX concerning the changes for the summer timetable...I love it how they title it "More Choices for Customers" w
51 SandroZRH : That's in fact true. They will codeshare on TAM to at least SCL. SIN will probably be offered in codeshare with TG. With the addition of OSL and Lyon
52 ZRH : Thanks for the explanation. As I said I did not read it well at first. Not yet but soon
53 GLEN : As far as I remember, the Fokker has two systems. What I remember for sure is that you can fly the Fokker even with no hydraulic pressure at all (whi
54 SandroZRH : I didn't know that, thanks for the explanation You're of course right. Im also not familiar with the F100 MEL, so don't know wether they'd have been
55 GLEN : You're welcome! I'm quite sure, they wouldn't have. Even on the Airbus with three systems (and probably on every civil aircraft) you're not allowed t
56 SandroZRH : That all makes sense, thanks again, very interesting stuff!
57 LXA340 : Sorry Sandro I didn't see that you also posted a link seems those posts get deleted very very fast At the end of the day if I have short connections
58 FlySwiss : I read somewhere that LX will start to fly to KRK (Krakau). I believe it was in the paper "20 Minuten" Can somebody confirm this. Cya Stefan
59 FatmirJusufi : Yeah sure it's Schwyz. Before two or three years I used to learn all about 26 Cantons of Switzerland and most of their capitals. IIRC Schwyz is one t
60 SandroZRH : Interesting! So if true, we actually see quite an expansion of LX in Europe (KRK, OSL, Lyon) compared to their capacity cuts on intercontinental flig
61 FatmirJusufi : Err, yep. But their service is just incredible even on their charter flights. LX forever. Fatmir
62 LXA340 : It looks like an AVRO RJ100 of LX (HB-IXO) went thech in Sofia, the return flight this afternoon LX1861 had to be cancelled. Anybody know what happene
63 LX8626 : Today evening Belair received the next "new" bird. This time it's an A319 HB-IOX. Arrived in ZRH today (31.Mar09) at 19:26 from DUS as AB822 Does anyb
64 LXA340 : The first A330-223 will leave the SWISS fleet officially tomorow. HB-IQP which is also the newest A332 aircraft in the SWISS fleet will be ferried to
65 Post contains links and images FatmirJusufi : Recent shot here. It was ex- D-ABGM cn 3604 http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A319/3604.html View Large View MediumPhoto © Jan
66 Ham : I don't think those ethnic flights are really very low yield markets. I've recently talked to a Kosovo guy and he told me flights are on average abou
67 FatmirJusufi : And goes more than 500CHF during summer peak season. Me also but still I don't really know. Charter flights are really destroying PAX. On the other h
68 HBJZA : Baboo ( BBO / F7 ) is also serving PRN from GVA as a charter.
69 Knightsofmalta : PRN is certainly not a low yield destination, the problem is rather that there are considerable fluctuations in demand. Being traditionally a route wi
70 Thomas_Jaeger : Supposedly Vietnam Airlines ...
71 SandroZRH : Then I wonder why they have a charter flight price list for alcoholic beverages and the likes in their on board magazine? And could you please clarif
72 LXA340 : Thanks. Those A332's really need to leave the fleet well 2 more years to go.... Not that the planes are the problem but their interior. My dad was fl
73 OA260 : I see the new C class seat map is loaded on some of the JFK flights.
74 FatmirJusufi : Comparing with some other Balkans destinations, it is. HW (BSL, GVA and ZRH), F7 (GVA) and WK (GVA, ZRH) but actually LX acquired it. Sandro this is
75 Post contains links LXA333 : http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20090402.aspx Swiss- best airline in europe.... Wow, I can't believe Swiss is already star
76 Post contains images FatmirJusufi : Great news for SWISS. Congratulations. Here's full list of the winners. Notice most of the winners are Asian air carriers. Fatmir
77 LXA340 : SWISS is not retiring the A332's because of age, well their cabin is definetly way over the age limit for "European" Standards. The IFE does not work
78 AviationMaster : Although these awards should always be taken with a grain of salt, its good to see LX being crowned as Europe's leading airline.
79 OA260 : Yes they deserve it going by all my experiences.
80 LXA340 : I agree LX can really count itself as best airline in europe, closely followed by LH and OS.
81 LXA340 : Does anybody know when HB-JHA (LX's first A333) will have it's delivery flight to ZRH?
82 OA260 : Not sure what the delivery is but its down to do LX 14 20th April ZRH-JFK.
83 ZRH : Does anybody know if the political crisis in Thailand have consequences on the SWISS BKK flight? I imagine that at moment not many people want to ther
84 SandroZRH : I heard that LX will be parking an A340 until july to compensate for the falling demand.
85 ZRH : Yes, I read the same in the NZZ am Sonntag. But this is already known, they do it because of reducing temporarily frequencies from 7 to 6 weekly to s
86 Knightsofmalta : Between last Thursday and today I did six flights with LX, all of them in Business, both short-haul and long-haul, and I'm sorry to say that of those
87 SandroZRH : Why dont you just stop flying LX then? I'll gladly take your place.
88 SR183 : I am not a great fan of LX, but I think it sounds a bit hard for me to call most of the flights below average? Could you elaborate?
89 LXA340 : The long haul fleet currently has 24 aircraft as HB-IQP left the fleet and HB-IQR somehow doesn't seem to be part of the fleet either anymore altough
90 OA260 : Sorry you had bad experiences . I have had only two in the space of 3 years and 65 flights. I can only go by my experiences and I have to say I love
91 Post contains links SR183 : The first Swiss A330-300 will have the s/n 1000. As it is known already, it will fly to New York on 20th March. The handover procedures are explained
92 FelixZRH : I guess you mean 20th April
93 Magic48 : Anyone have an indication when it will land at ZRH for the first time?
94 SR183 : Thanks, of course.. it was a post in hurry..
95 Post contains images Mikemalone : Yes, at the moment, a landing of the ferryflight on April 15th. around 1830 local time is planned as LX 5207, we are working hard here in TLS to get
96 LXA340 : according to the article of the Tages Anzeiger it will be on friday. What should be noted though the article talks about 9 aircraft, in actual fact t
97 Knightsofmalta : Seat back reclined during take of and landing, luggage in the aisle during take-off and landling, open hat racks during the landing, IFE screens not
98 Post contains images SR183 : I guess, you experienced one or two of these things that you stated in each flight and hopefully not all of them in a single flight.. It's difficult
99 LXM83 : I must unfortunately agree on that. I increasingly noticed it in the last 2 years, and not just on Swiss but on other reputed airlines, too. I would
100 Knightsofmalta : Interestingly enough my travel companion on this trip made exactly the same comment and I agree. I refuse to fly Ryanair so I don't know about them b
101 OA260 : Thanks for the pic , it looks really nice. Congrats to Swiss .
102 Magic48 : Thanks a bunch, I'll post a pic if I manage to capture her on approach.
103 SR183 : Good luck with the flight..Hope to see more such nice pictures from you..
104 LXA340 : As of today Zurich airport has a new website and the website looks quite good however the arrivals and departure information does not give any informa
105 ZRH : It still does. Go with the cursor on the airline designation and then a pop-up turns up with the registration and the operating airline. For example:
106 SwissA330 : But there is no flighttracker anymore! Also, once you click on a flight, or the terminal or similiar and press the back button you don't get back to t
107 ZRH : I also liked the old better at least the arrival/departure. But other features on the new page are easier to find.
108 ZRH : I am on terracce E. At 1830 the first LX 333 made a go arround on r/ w 16. Landed at 1841 on r/w14.[Edited 2009-04-15 10:00:07]
109 SandroZRH : So it arrived at 18:30 after all, grr, my dad an I were skating around the airport but we didnt deem it necessary to stay because it wasn't sure weth
110 ZRH : (first of all I apologize for my mistakes in the post. "turn arround" instead of "go around", but I was excited and had to type on my iPhone) She is
111 ZRH : When I went home by tram 10 I saw her standing between the Gate Gourmet building and the "Bogenhangar" next to the LX 332 in the Star Alliance colors
112 LXA340 : I left the airport by car at around 20:00 and was looking all over the SRTec area but couldn't find it however I did see an LX tail next to the A332
113 LXM83 : New airline for ZRH: Tarom, 4x weekly OTP-ZRH-OTP as follows (all times local), from 03Aug09: RO351 1-3-5-7 OTP 0850 ZRH 1010 73G RO352 1-3-5-7 ZRH 10
114 ZRH : You are right. I was a little messing I actually meant, there where the Star LX 332 stood not long ago.
115 SR183 : What a shame.. My user name will definitely become history soon..
116 TIA : This is nothing more than just potential future routes but Belle Air just launched its new website (www.belleair.al) and on its route map is showing T
117 Post contains links LXA340 : The seat map of the A330-300 is now loaded on the LX website: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ircraft/Pages/airbus_a330_300.aspx Interesting th
118 OA260 : Thanks for that link.
119 Icelandair : Between March, 1st and today I did 12 Swiss flight in C and all of them were well above standard with most of them being plain great in terms of serv
120 Poh2 : Any info on the new economy class product on the A333s??? First and Biz class look great...I hope eco was upgraded too!
121 Rheinwaldner : I had a similar experience. I knew the time of arrival and knew with much luck I would climb out of the train and see the A333 from my living place (
122 LXA340 : Service in LX C Class is usually excellent with very atentive and friendly staff. When it comes to safety in the cabin LX is probably one of the stri
123 Post contains links AntonovA330 : First media article on the new LX A333 interiour, includes video, german only: http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/leben/re...-ein-Vogel-geflogen/story/111966
124 SR183 : Hi AntonovA330, I was about to post the article, but you were quicker.. The strange logic towards the end of that article is that A330-300's engines a
125 Post contains links LXA340 : Lots of phots can be found under the following link of the A333 presentation this morning before it's first flight to JFK: http://www.flightforum.ch/f
126 FlySwiss : This week we will see an IL76 in Zurich coming from Madrid. Planned is it for tomorrow, Wednesday.
127 Ham : I saw one last week, too. It was standing behind the hangars, next to rwy 16.
128 LXA340 : possibly the Cabin of the A333's will feel a bit more quiet then on the A343's considering the continuous improvment the plane manufacturers do to th
129 SR183 : Yep, probably.. Does anyone know how much ZRH charges in terms of noise and air pollution for A333 and A343? If I remember correctly, ZRH was the fir
130 LXA340 : Has IQG left the SWISS fleet? To my knowledge the following A332's are still in the SWISS fleet: HB-IQA HB-IQC HB-IQG ? HB-IQH HB-IQI HB-IQJ HB-IQK HB
131 Thomas_Jaeger : HB-IQG has not been operating since April 19, so that is either coincidence or it was really fully replaced by HB-JHA.
132 EISHN : Hello everyone, can anyone give me the pitch and width details regarding the new Business seat on your new A330-300s please? And congratulations on su
133 Post contains links LXA340 : The CEO of SWISS Chrisoph Franz will leave the company at the end of June as the Supervisory Board of Deutsche Lufthansa AG today appointed Christoph
134 Post contains links SandroZRH : Interesting article here: http://avherald.com/h?article=418914e7&opt=0 Was that the day when we had those really high winds with all the go-arounds on
135 Post contains links LX8626 : Just read the news on http://zrh-spotter.ch There it said HB-ISE stranded at PUJ Does anybody know what's the reason? Only in German: 24.04.09 / Belai
136 LXA340 : I just returned from a weekend trip to MAD flying ZRH-MAD-ZRH in Y on LX. I am not making many short haul flights with LX however I was a little bit d
137 SandroZRH : With all due respect, but you don't buy tickets on the day before travel, unless you really have to go or your company pays. That's a total waste of
138 Viscount724 : You often can find low LX fares within Europe very close to departure time. I have booked several last-minute weekend trips, sometimes the day before
139 SandroZRH : That was true when LX still had their weekend specials. However, they god rid of those in favor of a different low special fares structure (all of eu
140 Viscount724 : You can still sometimes find faiirly low last-minute weekend fares but I agree it's less common since they dropped the old weekend fares. I think tha
141 Post contains images SandroZRH : I agree. I loved their weekend specials, but they must have had a reason to drop them. oh and to LXA340: I didn't want to be cocky, I just tried to s
142 FlySwiss : HB-ISE stranded at PUJ due to technical reason of the nose landing gear. My friends parents in wanted to fly home with this flight. So they came back
143 LXA340 : Don't worry about it Sandro... True this is the disadvantage of deciding spontaniously to meet up with friends in MAD Of course when paying less than
144 Post contains links LXA340 : SWISS posted it's financial results for Q1 2009. The operating profit was at CHF 63 million compared to CHF 66 million for the same period last year.
145 Post contains links SandroZRH : Nice figures indeed. Interestingly, LH reported a rather steep €256M loss for the first quarter. http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=1
146 LXA340 : The Swiss press seems to think differently about it..."SWISS im Sinkflug" etc After all the results that LX is achieving at the current economc envir
147 Post contains links and images Viasa : Swiss lease one of it's Airbus A330-200 to Strategic Airlines of Australia. It will replace the Airbus A330-300 (CS-TMT) of HiFly. As I understand, St
148 LXA340 : This might be the "Star Alliance" Airbus (HB-IQR) as all other LX A332's are already bound for new operators? BTW: It looks like that the LX A343 tha
149 Poh2 : Can't believe they're parking an A340-300...why not park one of the A332's with their crap interior? Sure, the A343 is a bit bigger, but is it really
150 LXA340 : I fully agree with you there. At least during those times the demand for premium products is lower, which might hurt LX less when they operate the A3
151 RJ100 : easyJet has loaded the winter timetable for all Swiss airports. After a few years of consolidation, they will be finally expanding a little bit in BSL
152 Humberside : I dont think any flights operated with LGW based aircraft are on sale yet
153 RJ100 : That might be the reason. Interestingly, the evening flight LGW-BSL-LGW is operated by an LGW based aircraft- and the flight is on sale already.
154 RJ100 : The flights from Zurich are now also bookable. easyJet flies two two times daily to Gatwick and 12x weekly to Luton. Not good for Aer Lingus though...
155 LXA340 : An A332 of LX (HB-IQK) went tech last night in DAR or NBO when operating LX293 back to ZRH, anybody know what happened? Well my dad benefited from the
156 Post contains links HT : A.net meeting at ZRH in the planning stages for 08-AUG-2009 If interested, have a look here in non-av. -HT
157 Post contains links Standby87 : This was a shock. Flying from Basel on Ryanair or Easyjet? Change to Swiss for FREE! http://www.swiss.com/web/DE/various/Pages/exchange.aspx Remarkabl
158 ZRH : Haha, this is one off the better advertisements and not very expensive for SWISS: only 100 tickets.
159 SandroZRH : I know of at least one a.netter who's gonna beg to differ
160 SASDC8 : Anyone have any info on when LX will get their second Airbus 333? Cheers Stein
161 LXA340 : It should be delivered around the 25th of June.
162 LXA340 : LX's latest A320 (HB-IJX) named after the town Davos is now in service. The plane is a former LTU / Air Berlin aircraft and first entered into service
163 ChrisZRH : IJX is a further addition at the moment and a further A320 from TAP was expected to join, but this has been halted now... btw: HB-JHB is planned to ar
164 Knightsofmalta : Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but it looks as though LX and SQ are finally code-sharing on both the SQ operated flights between ZRH and
165 Faro : Does anyone know when AC's new direct flights to GVA will commence? Faro
166 LXA340 : I gues it took a drop of over 20% in the entire SQ network to come down from their arogant anti codesharing policies. That's definetly good news for
167 Flyyul : June 1 *filler*
168 ChrisZRH : aren't they increasing frequencies again in june / july? HB-JMJ is also joining the fleet again by july, just as HB-JMA is scheduled for it's 3 week H
169 LXA340 : I thought LX will combine the refurbishment with the interior of the A343's with the heavy maintenance checks the planes will go throught as this is
170 ChrisZRH : HB-JMA as HB-JMB (due end of August) both won't receive the new cabin. The first A340 getting the new cabin is HB-JMC in September and from there on e
171 AntonovA330 : It might be so, but I guess LXA340 is more concerned about LX finally introducing ONE fleetwide product, no "patchwork" of different cabins.
172 ZRH : Thanks. Finally a concrete information about the A 340 refurbishment after a lot of rumors.
173 LXA340 : Yes exactly that is my conern, currently the A340 product is still a good product however in 2 years it will also be outdated and I would be happy th
174 Post contains links and images Helvknight : Some interesting movements round ZRH this afternoon because of the thunderstorm
175 RJ100 : Flights Tokyo-Zurich, Nuremberg-ZRH, Moscow-ZRH, Warsaw-ZRH and Bucharest-ZRH all diverted into BSL this afternoon due to the storm. The A-340 will po
176 LXA340 : Did LX have to bring in a new crew as their duty time exceeded?
177 TIA : Belle Air starts 4wk flights TIA-ZRH on June 24. LZ561 TIA ZRH from 24JUN to 24OCT (1.3.5.7) 08:20 – 10:20 LZ562 ZRH TIA from 24JUN to 24OCT (1.3.5.
178 Knightsofmalta : What aircraft will they be operating?
179 TIA : I would think that depending on demand you might see anything from a ATR42 to a A320. My guess would be either a ATR42 or ATR72.
180 SASDC8 : Flying with LX to JFK on the 18th. with return on the 21st. and would be fun to be on the real 1000th. Airbus 330/340 Cheers Stein
181 LXA340 : The plane will be flying by your travel dates so a 50% chance
182 SASDC8 : Well, with HB-JHA being the "fake" 1000th. Airbus 330/340 and HB-JHB being the real, my chance of getting on one of them should be quite good Cheers S
183 LXA340 : unlesss there is a last minute equipment change which is always possible...hehe. But as you are flying 2 legs u should deffinetly experience the A333
184 LXA340 : Just saw that an LX plane (HB-IQA) an A332 was flying as LX9226 to Nassau, Bahamas today. Anybody have an idea for the reason of that flight, I assume
185 Ka : Before making such a statement you should have got all facts. FYI: HB-JMH went AOG in MCT last night! KA.
186 Post contains links LXA340 : Sorry about that....I wasn't aware of that. This is the reason then for the downgrade to an A320 on the CAI flight today. Regarding TLV being an A321
187 Jambo293 : Saw HB-IQR remotely parked at Technics without the Star Alliance livery...next to an A330 that looked liked Vietnam Airlines. Does that mean IQR is ge
188 Viasa : Will go to Strategic Airlines.
189 LXA340 : All LX A332's will leave the LX fleet by the 1st quarter 2011 as they will be replaced with 11 brand new A333's. Yes that's true HB-IQR was lately on
190 Jambo293 : Heard that one of the doors (1L/R) on -IQR had been "borrowed" by -IQC..... True ?
191 LXA340 : That's right...Door 1L
192 Jambo293 : Is -IQG next on the exit list ?
193 LXA340 : HB-IQG has left the fleet in april, it will go to Vietnam Airlines. I don't know if it has left Zurich already but it's already painted in full Vietn
194 LX64A332 : What!?!?!?! I am in NAS currently, can't believe I missed it! I did see an EK 777 on approach though! EXTEMELY RARE!!! The biggest plane we see on a
195 Post contains links ChrisZRH : IQG is still in ZRH, at least she was last Friday. They were just finishing with the cabin configuration. Vietnam are using the old SR/LX Business sea
196 Post contains images LXA340 : As long as LX will never ever have the A332 Business Class by 2011 the SR A332 Business Class can live for ever...  On an other note, over the summe
197 SandroZRH : Why was LX1838/39 to/from ATH operated by an A343 (HB-JMO) today? Did an A32S break down and they didn't have a spare sitting around? Good thing for t
198 LXA340 : I don't know if they needed the extra capacity but considering that most flights to ATH are operated with A321's with high loads possibily yes. Altho
199 Post contains links Knightsofmalta : Can you guys help me please? I saw this article yesterday: http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/schwei...tina_piloten_urteil_1.2700177.html Have I missed som
200 AntonovA330 : Well, I also stumbled on it. What I heard is that they referring to 2L's predecessor, Odette Airways.
201 FlySwiss : Just received this news Etihad will have two MD11F flights from Zurich to Abu Dhabi: Aircraft N383WA will depart as EY 9060/15JUN at 2135h to AUH Airc
202 Post contains links Helvknight : Some of the airport hotels (notably the Novotel and the Renaissance) are sufficiently implressed with the new Glattalbahn (Tram 10) that they are nego
203 Jambo293 : Does anyone have the phase out plan of the LX A332s ? IQP & IQG are already gone, and it seems next in-line is IQJ & IQK. What about the rest ? Wasn't
204 LXA340 : Due to the lower demand LX will take out an A332 out of service as soon as the next A333 will be delivered in the next days, officially until the end
205 Flyyul : Whats funny to note that the A343 is subbing in on YUL-ZRH for some dates in Jul, but a lot of dates in September. Yet no F on sale?
206 Viscount724 : It's unusual for a carrier to sell premium classes not usually offered in the event of aircraft substitutions. I've been on LX A330s and 340s with F
207 Flyyul : Viscount, It's a regular sub - as in more than 10 operations total for summer.
208 Viscount724 : Especially during the summer when high yield traffic is normally at its lowest point, I can't see it being worth the effort to arrange catering etc.
209 Flyyul : What is the true demand for F to Switzerland, especially in this economy?
210 LXA340 : It's hard to say....just as any other carrier SWISS is suffering under the current economic crisis as well wiith a quite sharp drop in C and F Class
211 Post contains links ZRH : "World's Best Airport Award 2009" (by Skytrax): Zurich wins as best airport in Europe and fourth in the world. http://www.20min.ch/news/zuerich/story/
212 LXA340 : Nice....and they deserve it. I don't know any other airprot that is so clean and so easy to navigate throguh than ZRH. Ok regarding clean (HKG, BKK a
213 FlySwiss : Bad news, this flight is already cancelled due to AOG in AUH. Aircraft N383WA will depart as EY 9060/15JUN at 2135h to AUH
214 LXA340 : Does anybody know if the 2nd A333 was deliverd yesterday to LX (HB-JHA) and when it is scheduled to have it's first flight with LX?
215 Viasa : The 2nd A333 (HB-JHB!!!) was delivered to LX four days ago (10-June-2009).
216 Ka : The 2nd A333 (HB-JHB) was delivered on June 10th and flown to ZRH the same day. First commercial service is expected on the 19th. KA.
217 Post contains links LXA340 : Thanks guys, does it have any special markings saying that it is the 1000th ever built A330/340? http://www.sonntagonline.ch/index.ph...?show=news&ty
218 SASDC8 : Nice to see that LX has taken delivery of two 333's already. Hopefully I will get try both on my trip to New York this week: LX14 on the 18th and LX1
219 Danfearn77 : Very good thread here chaps! Im not swiss but ah well! I like Switzerland! Just thought id share Swiss have reported a 21% increase in passengers MAN-
220 LXA340 : The 2nd A343 will start flying by the 19th so your chances og getting to fly on both A333's are realistic
221 PhilInBRN : I assume this is also why LX has upgraded its equipment mostly to A319/A320. I remember in recent years the biggest aircraft to serve the route was F
222 LXA340 : Of course I was refering to the A333 and not A343. My questions got answered by itself as the 2nd A333 in the LX fleet (HB-JHB) made it's first sched
223 Someone83 : And today was the inaugural flight of LX new twice daily ZRH-OSL service. Welcome (back)
224 Post contains links DALCE : Please continue in the Swiss Aviation Thread 21. It can be found here : http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4454247/ rgds
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