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User currently offlineDiesel33 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 302 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9412 times:

I was just wondering if there are any special benefits applied to airline staff when they travel within their airline's respective alliances (i.e. UA employee traveling within Star or AA employee traveling within Oneworld)?

Does anything like higher priority or lower zed fares exist?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

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User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9373 times:

I can tell you about Star Alliance, we get higher priority (up one level) and for most of them it's ZED low fare (for example travelling on UA, LH).


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User currently offlineAzncsa4qf744er From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9359 times:

Also, within Star Alliance not only do you have ZED LOW on most carrier, but some will offer Business Class ZED fare too.

User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4271 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9335 times:

Within oneworld, ZED medium fare for staff.
Or of course local agreements which might differ.



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User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9335 times:

I work for JQ and i get staff travel on all OneWorld carriers and alot of other carriers including Southwest Airlines in the states... BUT all are Economy seats and standby only, unless im flying with QF were they will sometimes on certain sectors depending on loads and such confirm a seat for us, but still only economy.
On JQ International we can only fly economy aswel
To be entitled to fly Business Class on QF/JQ and any other carriers we must complete 7 years service BUT on QF Domestic we can fly Business class - for example
BNE - DRW - BNE in Business Class cost AUD$142 return in stead of RRP AUD$2980



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User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9319 times:



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 1):
I can tell you about Star Alliance, we get higher priority (up one level) and for most of them it's ZED low fare (for example travelling on UA, LH).

One level up? That helps.
For Star it is Zed-Low all around. Which is why I am planning an all Star Alliance trip around the world this year.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9307 times:

i dont get all this talk about the ZED fares being Low, Medium etc.....
My family live in UK so i travel their quite alot and i call Qantas Staff Travel and i get them to send me out paper tickets... i usually fly:
NTL - BNE - SIN - LHR - MAN on QF/BA/BD ..... OR
NTL - BNE - LAX - JFK - LHR - MAN on QF/AA/UA/DL/CO/VS/BA
on the JFK - LHR route my ticket can be used on AA/UA/DL/CO/VS/BA
but all of it is Standby ONLY.. so for example if there is only 3 seats left on BNE - LAX and there is 4 Staff wishing to travel the seats go to who ever has been there the longest...



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User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9307 times:



Quoting TheGMan (Reply 5):
One level up? That helps.

Yep, for example at US, for other staff the priority code is SA9P, while for Star Alliance staff it's SA8P.



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User currently offlineNW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 151 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9257 times:

All NW partners go one level up priority wise. Most are ZED M though, nothing special pass wise except for AS.

User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9245 times:



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 7):

Yep, for example at US, for other staff the priority code is SA9P, while for Star Alliance staff it's SA8P.

That is still low compared to what I normally travel on. ZL fares are awesome though.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9190 times:

Basically the priority list is like that:

Own airline
Alliance
other partners
.
.
.
.
all others ( which is most of the time me. Big grin )


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9047 times:



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 3):
Within oneworld, ZED medium fare for staff.

oneworld stinks as fare as fares go. We get ZED medium fares on all partner airlines which is the same fare that we get on anyone else.

We do get higher boarding priority standby code ONE which for AA is one above all other airline employees ZED and one below our friends and extended family members D3.

I asked a few years why we did not get ZED low vs ZED medium to sweeten the alliance benefits and was told if we did that some alliance members would pay less for oneworld travel then they do to fly on their own airline.

Still dreaming for the day that you pay for alliance travel whatever you pay on your own metal  crossfingers 

AJMIA



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User currently offlineUnited From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9028 times:

Well, at least for UA employees, not all Star Alliance carriers are Zed Low. For example, I could fly Delta for a zed medium fare but to fly Singapore Airlines, I would need to purchase an ID75 ticket... which is much more expensive than most Zed levels.


The opinions expressed here are mine and not necessarily those of Delta Air Lines.
User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6483 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9007 times:



Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 6):
i dont get all this talk about the ZED fares being Low, Medium etc.....

Go to the ZED web site and you will see there are three cost levels ZL, ZM, and ZH. The level that applies is determined by the agreement between the two participating carriers. At NW it is ZM for all carriers except Alitalia and Cape Air where it is ZL. NW and DL have zero fare ZED with each other until the new pass policy for both comes out.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9003 times:

Wow my staff travel works completely different to all this messy Low and Medium stuff, mine is simple!


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User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8951 times:



Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 14):
Wow my staff travel works completely different to all this messy Low and Medium stuff, mine is simple!

Most staff travel is simple online.
AA is very easy online. All electronic, payroll deducted and you can meal list and check in (for domestic flights) from home.
It is when you start to fly on other airlines that you have to deal with paper tickets and ZED fares.

AJMIA



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User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8936 times:



Quoting AJMIA (Reply 15):
It is when you start to fly on other airlines that you have to deal with paper tickets and ZED fares.

see we like getting paper tickets, its easyer and in some cases more convienient as we have more choice of airlines on a particular route. But see when we want to book international on oneworld or other carriers we just call staff travel and its all done, its sometimes cheaper to fly someone else besides QF/JQ on some routes, for us TG is quite cheap to LHR from SYD via BKK t



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User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8925 times:



Quoting AJMIA (Reply 15):
Most staff travel is simple online.

Exactly, for example on US, we go on the Hub, and book everything there, whether for the employee, the family even for the guest passes. You can even pay there and like you said domestically you can check-in there and go straight to the gate. (and then get the seat there)

Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 16):
see we like getting paper tickets, its easyer and in some cases more convienient as we have more choice of airlines on a particular route. But see when we want to book international on oneworld or other carriers we just call staff travel and its all done, its sometimes cheaper to fly someone else besides QF/JQ on some routes, for us TG is quite cheap to LHR from SYD via BKK t

ZED fares are all paper tickets. And it's pretty easy, all you do is sell open segments on whatever airline you want to fly (that has zed fares), book it, pay it and you're done. (won't take you more than 2 mins if you have the routing, etc all ready when you begin)

Also there is the option of calling staff travel just like you said, if you're not sure how to do something and they can book everything for you. (I like doing it myself)  Smile



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8897 times:
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Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 13):
At NW it is ZM for all carriers except Alitalia and Cape Air where it is ZL.

We also get ZL on Czech and I even think Air Zimbabwe  Silly I was bored at work  Smile



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User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8887 times:

Here at BA we have ZED Medium rates with all airlines I believe.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 15):
AA is very easy online. All electronic, payroll deducted and you can meal list and check in (for domestic flights) from home.

I wish my staff travel was as easy as that. I can never check-in from home, always has to be at the airport.
When travelling through LHR you can normally check-in using the self service check-in machines a la other passengers but here in the regions it mostly has to be done at the airport.

Staff travel in the US is so so different to staff travel in Europe



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8732 times:



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 17):
ZED fares are all paper tickets.

I do know that AC has electronic ZED ticketing with a number of carriers. I don't know if I like the concept other than it sure could come in handy if you're overseas in a particular country and need an alternative routing or have lost your paper ZED tickets as AC employees can log onto their travel website and purchase them online anywhere in the world.

JQFlightie,I sent you a message


User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8702 times:

DL on SkyTeam carriers is either ZED Low or ID96.


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User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8608 times:



Quoting 9252fly (Reply 20):
JQFlightie,I sent you a message

lol about what and where can i read it, sorry new to this.

Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 17):
ZED fares are all paper tickets. And it's pretty easy, all you do is sell open segments on whatever airline you want to fly (that has zed fares), book it, pay it and you're done. (won't take you more than 2 mins if you have the routing, etc all ready when you begin)

Also there is the option of calling staff travel just like you said, if you're not sure how to do something and they can book everything for you. (I like doing it myself)

we can only book QF/JQ online, so any other carryer we have to book over the phone, i plan it all before calling staff travel as they not charge us AUD$40 per quote and AUD$10 per paper ticket sent out, so i do my home work very well lol Big grin



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User currently offlinePitintl From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 88 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8376 times:

Although my airline is not part of any alliances, I do know that we have a very good pass benefit with NWA and now with the new codeshare agreement with DL (a low Zed). We also get higher priority on them as well, and when they fly on m airline's flights they fly on a higher priority than other airlines. It really works out well.


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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8041 times:

Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 22):
lol about what and where can i read it, sorry new to this.

Just above the first post look for the the link to your "Profile". Click on it and make yourself contactable by other Anet members. You can then send and receive messages. To send a message to a member you can click on the link "SEND INSTANT MSG " above any reply/post a member has made on a thread such as this one. Send me a message as I need to ask you something about DPS.

Edit;I think you can also alternatively just click on your own username where you posted a response and scroll down to "messages" and read the history of messages.

[Edited 2009-03-13 23:31:22]

25 JQFlightie : ok lol im blonde haha ok you can email me now! ask me anything about DPS
26 Flyingcat : The long term goal for IATA is to have all ZED ticketing be completely electronic. A lofty goal that will take time but interline nonrev still account
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