Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21779 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10400 times:
Quoting Enilria (Thread starter): Reversed last week's deletion of JFK-AMS (757). Flight now operates continuously past April.
Dumb question about this one... might the deletion have been a mistake?
Besides that one, NW and DL seem to be doing a lot of dot connecting; the return of mainline employees facilitates that MDW-SLC flight, and the merger also facilitates the LNK-SLC run (since LNK is a NW station), but the NW adds look like the strategy that they've been pursuing on and off for 5 years.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
Enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6573 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10328 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1): Dumb question about this one... might the deletion have been a mistake?
Basically I agree. I think that because they are filing two schedules separately with flights moving between carriers they are having a lot of issues. It may be that they deleted it from the NW schedule in expectation of adding it to the DL schedule, but the decision was reversed in midstream. Hard to tell, but I agree it was probably a mistake of some sort.
Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 2): Don't forget RNOMSP on weekends with E175s starting in June and ending in September--from the Minnesota Aviation thread. Don't think it's been loaded yet, but still mentionable.
I actually try to leave out things that have been announced already, but are just hitting OAG. I've run afoul of the moderators by posting it again just because it is now in OAG.
As for RNO-MSP, I didn't see it but I don't look at changes of less than daily unless I happen onto it by random chance. OAG is so vast I have to put in a lot of restrictions to get the data dump down to something manageable.
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10296 times:
Quoting Enilria (Reply 3): I actually try to leave out things that have been announced already, but are just hitting OAG. I've run afoul of the moderators by posting it again just because it is now in OAG.
There's no press release about it, but there was a news article online that was linked. So I guess DL will make yet another big announcement about new routes sometime soon.
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10192 times:
Quoting OA412 (Reply 5): Does anyone remember if these were previously announced. For the life of me I don't remember seeing a press release for either one of these.
No press releases at the moment. Great to see dot being connected throughout the DL/NW system. I'm just glad they have a relief valve for ATL and CVG now. If a CVG route is underperfoming, just add or start DTW service! So simple!
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21779 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10036 times:
Quoting Ocracoke (Reply 13): But DL has flown mainline aircraft to OH only staffed airports before. GRR for example. So DL could have flown MD90 MDW-SLC before, if they wanted, even with OH handling the flight in MDW.
...if there was no other mainline, but they're already flying mainline to ATL (that's another relatively recent change).
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
That's a nice development in addition to NW/DL recently deciding to up the afternoon DTW-BMI-DTW trip to a CRJ. I do think it's interesting, though, that NW originally ran SF3's on PIA-MSP and BMI-DTW, then added PIA-DTW on the CRJ and now BMI-MSP on the CRJ. At the same time, PIA-MSP still operates all-Saab and BMI-DTW just now had one trip changed to CRJ. Not that it REALLY matters, but it does make me wonder if they will eventually go to all-jet service at PIA/BMI or not.
Ocracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 662 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9819 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 14): ...if there was no other mainline, but they're already flying mainline to ATL (that's another relatively recent change).
Maybe I'm being dense, but I dont understand your point. At GRR, DL had mainline to both ATL as well as CVG (B737-200), and they were handled by Comair, both upstairs and downstairs.
What are you trying to say now regarding MDW, that the SLC-MDW flight is being started because NW mainline employees will be taking over. You've got me confused....
Slcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2879 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9431 times:
MDW should do well with the new 90 route for DL.
DL is really adding NWA high FF base mid-west cities to its list quickly out of SLC. Less backtracking for people thru MSP, these flights with the new NWA base will do well.
DL loves the press releases im surprised there isn't one out already. I'm guessing these were the additional SLC flights delta mentioned were coming? They just added quite a few new flights out of SLC I can't imagine too many more for a while?
In reality no mainline carrier except possible MSP-MDW does well at MDW, and we'll see how long that lasts. MDW can get decent yields as a destination, not really as an origin. SLC-MDW will be a origin MDW market, not destination. Yields will stink and I predict even loads will be poor. If UA couldnt make MDW work from its DEN and IAD hubs and AA coudlnt make DFW-MDW work, why would a second tier like SLC work?
Care to share why you think SLC-MDW will fail and where you're getting your info that the only mainline route to turn a profit at MDW is MDW-MSP? DL has found reasonable success at MDW, they just seem to be connecting the dots right now. Above and beyond that, SLC has a good amount of O/D to Chicago. This flight will offer and alternative to those travelling between SLC and Chicago who wish to avoid ORD.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15069 posts, RR: 26 Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8969 times:
Quoting Steex (Reply 17): that NW originally ran SF3's on PIA-MSP and BMI-DTW, then added PIA-DTW on the CRJ and now BMI-MSP
All of NW's central Illinois flights used to be Saabs. Also, I recall that NW also had BMI-MSP on Saabs, but I could be wrong. I couldn't tell you when some were upgraded, but I think the Peoria flights were upguaged first.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
25 FlyASAGuy2005: Starting the route with a 90 is a pretty bold move so they must be getting data from somewhere. I would have expected something a little smaller for
26 Haggis79: well.... the next smaller plane would be a CR9, unless they want to put NW on the route, in which case a 319 or DC9 might be a possibility... I actua
27 Enilria: MSP-MDW Round 2 ... DING DING I think you are missing the fact that WN flies this 4x per day. This is classic NW (now DL) retaliation. When F9 added
28 Soxfan: I'm probably misreading this, but was JetBlue planning to end service, even seasonally, between Boston and Palm Beach, or was it related to specific