Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
MCO-ATL 777-200LR Service Today  
User currently offlineSMFBase From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 14 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7730 times:

Just looked at my itinerary for my Delta flight, I was supposed to be on a 767-300 as of yesterday but it seems to have changed to a 777-200LR for todays flight, anyone know why this is and also why a 777 is in MCO? I am stoked to say the least.

[Edited 2009-03-13 10:22:06]

37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5486 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7685 times:

Nice! That's the first revenue roundtrip for DL's newest 77L (ship 7103). Enjoy the new plane smell.

User currently offlineSMFBase From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7465 times:

I just boarded the aircraft, one of the most beautiful planes I have been in so far. Awesome to see her so new!!

User currently offlineGlareskin From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 1307 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7436 times:

MCO - ATL sounds like a typical route for an ultra long haul aircraft....  Confused


There's still a long way to go before all the alliances deserve a star...
User currently offlineDTWTOLBase From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7402 times:

Delta is famous for putting widebody aircraft on MCO-ATL. I wouldn't be surprised to see an ATL based 744 on ATL-MCO at some point.

User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4750 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7393 times:

Guys the plane was just delivered. They're testing her out. And getting use of her before she crosses the pond.

She's scheduled to fly DL8 ATL-DXB tonight so ....give it up already.

[Edited 2009-03-13 13:35:45]

[Edited 2009-03-13 13:36:20]


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7215 times:



Quoting Glareskin (Reply 3):
MCO - ATL sounds like a typical route for an ultra long haul aircraft....

IIRC, DL in the past has used the ATL-MCO-ATL route as a training route for flight crews.

Quoting DTWTOLBase (Reply 4):
Delta is famous for putting widebody aircraft on MCO-ATL. I wouldn't be surprised to see an ATL based 744 on ATL-MCO at some point.

At one point in the Fall of 2000, there was at least one flight a day between ATL and MCO with each type of widebody in the DL fleet at the time (L-1011, 762/763/763ER/764, 777, MD-11). There was even a time when they routed a 777 ATL-MCO-JFK-MCO-ATL.

With DL about to make ATL-MCO-ATL all 757s (as of 5/1/09), I honestly don't see the resumption of widebody service on the route in the near future. While an equipment sub could put an A-330 or 744 on the route, much like with this sub of a 772LR, it's not going to be a regular thing.


User currently offlineRSW88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7052 times:

I flew the ATL-MCO route once on DL and had a 767. Back then was not an aviation nut so it was no big deal to me!

User currently offlineDTWTOLBase From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7016 times:



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 6):
With DL about to make ATL-MCO-ATL all 757s (as of 5/1/09)

ATL-MCO always seemed like a waste of the 757's abilities. Either give up the frequency and fly it with 763s or fly the additional frequencies and use the A320/A321 or a 737/MD80.


User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6977 times:



Quoting SMFBase (Reply 2):
I just boarded the aircraft, one of the most beautiful planes I have been in so far. Awesome to see her so new!!

At MCO? LOL We're you in the group of us taking pics? I went to the gate real quick during my break to check it out. Maybe you saw me with a short girl in red?


User currently offlineC767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6976 times:



Quoting DTWTOLBase (Reply 8):
ATL-MCO always seemed like a waste of the 757's abilities. Either give up the frequency and fly it with 763s or fly the additional frequencies and use the A320/A321 or a 737/MD80.

Why is it a waste? I don’t understand that. Those 767s are full, as are the 757s going every hour. Just because it is a short distance, why does it not make sense to have these types on such routes when the aircraft is full?

Northwest sent DC-10’s between MSP-MKE for years. They send 757s from MSP-MDW. United has 757s between LAX/SAN and SFO – roughly the same distance as ATL-MCO. AA has 737s running around FL from MIA. No one has any problems with these routes being operated by those aircraft. Why is it that ATL-MCO bothers people?


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15747 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6964 times:



Quoting DTWTOLBase (Reply 8):
ATL-MCO always seemed like a waste of the 757's abilities. Either give up the frequency and fly it with 763s or fly the additional frequencies and use the A320/A321 or a 737/MD80.

The idea behind the 757/767 was to have an aircraft that could fly any route from 200mi to 4000+ miles efficiently. If ATL-MCO is a waste, then what about STL-ORD or many other 757 routes?



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6848 times:

On many int'l flights, the airplane would sit in ATL for the day if it weren't flown on a short flight such as this. Also, part of the reason for short flights is to increase the number of takeoffs and landings for pilots which they can't get with the larger proportion of long haul flights.

For this flight, you can bet every system was checked out during the short flights before it was sent to the Middle East.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15747 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6822 times:



Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 12):
For this flight, you can bet every system was checked out during the short flights before it was sent to the Middle East.

Especially since getting things fixed in Atlanta or Orlando is a lot easier for DL than fixing things in Dubai.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineMCOatc From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

Hey guys I've trolled these forums for about 10 years and finally decided to join up.... Anyway, I was working ground control today at MCO and had the pleasure of working ship 7103 on it's return to ATL. I asked the crew if it was the new LR and you could tell they were proud telling me that it in fact was, and, on her first day of working the skies no less. I joked if she had that new plane smell and they said she in fact did, just as the previous poster mentioned.

The crew then mentioned that because she was an LR and "ridiculously overpowered" if we could coordinate a higher altitude on climb out, which we were able to do. Suffice it to say that everyone in the cab was watching her depart and she entertained, using about 4500' of runway. It was a treat for all of us controllers, who just like everyone else around here still act like a bunch of kids every time we see a cool new plane.


User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

MCOatc you are officially welcome to A.net! hehe

Cool story there Mr.  Big grin  Wink


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6643 times:

Ahhh. Remember the times when MCO saw twice daily T7s with a mix of 763 and 764s. The first flight usually left Atlanta anywhere between 10 and 12 and the second flight was an evening departure out of Orlando.


What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineMCOatc From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6643 times:



Quoting Airliner777 (Reply 15):
MCOatc you are officially welcome to A.net! hehe

Thanks  Smile


User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6379 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 11):
If ATL-MCO is a waste, then what about STL-ORD or many other 757 routes?

You can add MKE-DTW and MKE-MSP to the list.



Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1336 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6307 times:



Quoting DTWTOLBase (Reply 4):
Delta is famous for putting widebody aircraft on MCO-ATL. I wouldn't be surprised to see an ATL based 744 on ATL-MCO at some point.

You are probably right. When Delta first had 747's back in the mid to late 70's they used to use them for flights to places like JAX.



God bless through Jesus, Jeff
User currently offlineJustinPistone From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6256 times:

Is there any chance of Delta sending one of their 777-200LRs back to MCO sometime soon?

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15747 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5958 times:



Quoting DTWTOLBase (Reply 8):
ATL-MCO always seemed like a waste of the 757's abilities.

Really it is most efficient for all involved to fly the largest type that can be filled at a given time.

Quoting DTWTOLBase (Reply 4):
Delta is famous for putting widebody aircraft on MCO-ATL.

Yeah so my genius family had to book AirTran for our trip down there in '01.  Angry



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineSMFBase From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5696 times:

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 9):

Na I did not, I forgot to look. I read your other post about being there and taking photos. I boarded zone 1 so I didn't have much time to look around. Tried to get there a little early but the security line wasn't the shortest I have seen it 

Also, MCOatc, I was going to say, I noticed we lifted off quickly, more so than I have experienced in the past in 767's out of MCO. It was an awesome adventure, the crew and everyone were really happy to be on board.

[Edited 2009-03-14 00:28:13]

User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5382 times:



Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 12):
Also, part of the reason for short flights is to increase the number of takeoffs and landings for pilots which they can't get with the larger proportion of long haul flights.

Actually, the ATLMCO turn would not be the same crew as the ATLDXB crew, for duty time limitations.

Unless I am mistaken, the crew doing the DXB would be only good for 2 hours beyond the ATLDXB block time (even when there is a full double crew) , so there's no way they could do a domestic segment before the transoceanic segment.

Also, when an airline mixes types of ops like that, with domestic and long-haul flights in the same duty period, the limitations imposed by the most restrictive set of regulations (the domestic ops) would also apply to the flag operation, which means the crew that did the MCO turn simply couldnt continue on to DXB.



Nobody screws you better than an airline job!
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5257 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 16):
Remember the times when MCO saw twice daily T7s with a mix of 763 and 764s

And it still would be oversold in the summer and I'd never make it out on a buddy pass.
 sigh 
Althought after the summer it was almost a waste to have that 777 on the last flight out to ATL, one night I was on it with about 26 other people.


25 B767300ER : I will be working DL8 tonight from ATL-DXB on our new flagship. Due to the need for an LOD with none available from ATL base they will DH me to ATL to
26 Atlanta : I love "ridiculously overpowered"! Oh yes I do! I remember watching an MD-11 tail strike while we were holding in the 767. I flew The Spirit in there
27 FlyASAGuy2005 : Not always. Those 767s flying into Orlando would have a butt in the seat from front to back. In this case, they feel like they can acutally make mone
28 BMI727 : The CASM for the airline is lowest if they fly the largest plane that they can fill, subject of course to specific demand for certain classes. I thou
29 FlyASAGuy2005 : The aircraft flying into Florida and other cities were non ER as far as I know.
30 PGNCS : This is not always correct. A lot of money has been lost flying very large planes stuffed with passengers for low fares, which Florida is famous for.
31 BMI727 : They did. This was before AirTran really turned around too. I was referring to the fact that instead of a 757/767/777 I got stuck with a 717. It real
32 Pilotboi : Welcome, MCOatc! If you ever see a guy on the 11th floor of the parking garage with a black/purple vest and a scanner in hand - that's probably me (a
33 Atlanta : Does anybody have pics of it in MCO? Atlanta
34 Post contains links Pilotboi : I've got a bunch. One is posted on my site: www.widgetheads.net. I'll be sending a few more out in my next newsletter. So if you want to see them, jo
35 M11Stephen : Is DL also using this flight as sort of a training flight? I know SQ does short runs with their ultra-long haul aircraft so that they can train flight
36 WorldTraveler : Agree... training and increasing crew landings and takeoffs does not necessarily mean on the same trip.
37 Post contains links Pilotboi : A few more pics posted: http://www.widgetheads.net/7013.php Sorry they're so late.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
ATL-MCO On A 777 Or A 764? posted Sat Nov 10 2007 07:03:25 by Curticool
Pakistan Airlines 777-200LR In Service Yet? posted Tue Mar 21 2006 01:01:40 by United787
ATL Mesaba SF34 Service Now Underway posted Wed Mar 4 2009 12:32:20 by MKP1013
Emirates 777-200LR Configuration posted Sat Feb 28 2009 22:35:28 by Airxliban
Qatar Recieves First 777-200LR, 6th Overall 777 posted Mon Feb 9 2009 07:35:25 by QatarA340
EK 777-200LR To PER?!? posted Wed Jan 7 2009 00:14:44 by CXfirst
Future 777-200LR Orders? posted Sat Jan 3 2009 15:46:27 by CX747
Oldest 777 In Service And Built posted Mon Dec 29 2008 17:49:55 by Plairbus
First Qatar 777-200LR Painted posted Wed Dec 17 2008 05:48:44 by AlitaliaMD11
More Delta 777-200LR's posted Mon Dec 1 2008 12:02:34 by Jfk777