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Australian Aviation Thread 25  
User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2003 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16526 times:

As the Avalon Airshow begins we are having our own little aerial display here on A.net. Yes, welcome to edition number 25 of the Australian Aviation Thread.

In thread 24 we talked airshow, SkyAirWorld, Jetstar going to Europe via SIN and US via HNL, the first 787 to Japan, 777 to Cebu Air for Philippine flights?, Qatar not flying to MEL, Avalon wants to be international, EY codesharing with QF, and more...

So here's hoping for smooth skies (especially tomorrow on SYD-CNS-NRT) as we rotate into Thread 25!


Applying insanity to normality
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User currently offlineAnstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5161 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 16506 times:

I guess ina last ditch attempt to stop people moving to the Qantas Direct Sweep program, Velocity have 50% off LA sale.

http://www.velocityrewards.com.au/content/Specials/LA.html

Given they have a promo where you gewt 25% bonus points on transfers - this sale is pretty good - if you can make use of the small travel window. I guess it also has the double effect of boosting loads to make the first month look good (and the promo starts just as they go daily too)

Economy is 47k return
Business is 94k return (you would only need to transfer about 75k from AMEX or another rewards promo with the current bonus offer)

Pretty good!

Wish I could go, but am off over easter instead!


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 16459 times:

I don't know if anyone has realized it. From the looks of it on the last thread no one did.

http://www.qatarairways.com/global/e...archive/press-release-11Mar09.html

Qatar Airways has announced on their website that they will start MEL and SYD Non-stop Daily flights at the beginning of 2009 Northern Winter. So, I don't think they are skipping MEL as some have feared.

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 16421 times:

How many A330s are JQ exspecting still, someone mentioned one in december could we possibly see an increase in frequency to places like Dempasar and Bangkok frmo Melbourne where they are only two and three weekly?

User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 16389 times:



Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Qatar Airways has announced on their website that they will start MEL and SYD Non-stop Daily flights at the beginning of 2009 Northern Winter. So, I don't think they are skipping MEL as some have feared.

Correct, over a couple of days last week, there was speculation that Melbourne was being "snubbed" in favour of Sydney. However, within a couple of days it was clear that BOTH SYD and MEL would be getting the long anticipated Qatar Airways flights.


User currently offlineTayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 16375 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 4):
Melbourne was being "snubbed" in favour of Sydney

No thanks to the Sydney Yawning Herald. The Herald Scum isn't much better really.

They're probably going to need a fair amount of luck on their sude with the big push by Etihad into MEL (and the the QF codeshare) - i.e Etihad have their name on a stadium that's going to have a million or so people visit it this year - Qatar? nada - best of luck though!


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5161 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 16282 times:

Anyone know why VA is not flying SYD-LAX on 24th March?

I thought they were due to go daily from the 20th?


User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1512 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 16138 times:

Just got back from the Avalon Airshow - if anyone is thinking of going tomorrow - it is worth it! The A380 takeoff this morning was incredible

User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 16035 times:

Flipping thru some advanced air schedules across Bass Strait and noticed wef 13 Apr QF Dash8-400 now scheduled to do the 2 daily QF flights to LST from MEL and return with a scheduled block time of 65 mins (same as DJ 737/738 block times). Weekdays only, weekends still Dash8-300.


remember the t shirt "I own an airline"on the front - "qantas" on the back
User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16020 times:



Quoting Smi0006 (Reply 3):
How many A330s are JQ exspecting still, someone mentioned one in december could we possibly see an increase in frequency to places like Dempasar and Bangkok frmo Melbourne where they are only two and three weekly?

That probably depends a bit on whether anyone else starts flights from MEL to Asian destinations. The new Lion 739ERs have a theoretical range (on the Boeing website) that would allow than plane to go to MEL from DPS. If Air Asia makes A330s available to the Thai operation and the Indonesian operation, then MEL would be a good city for both those airlines.

BKK would be a good connection point between Jetstar and Air Berlin, if Air Berlin continues to do its long haul services out of Germany to Asia.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 15898 times:



Quoting Smi0006 (Reply 3):
How many A330s are JQ exspecting still, someone mentioned one in december could we possibly see an increase in frequency to places like Dempasar and Bangkok frmo Melbourne where they are only two and three weekly?

at the moment it is looking as tho its 1 more A330, but it will be deployed on a japanese route, more then likely on the OOL - NRT as we are looking at going double daily.

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 9):
That probably depends a bit on whether anyone else starts flights from MEL to Asian destinations. The new Lion 739ERs have a theoretical range (on the Boeing website) that would allow than plane to go to MEL from DPS. If Air Asia makes A330s available to the Thai operation and the Indonesian operation, then MEL would be a good city for both those airlines.

BKK would be a good connection point between Jetstar and Air Berlin, if Air Berlin continues to do its long haul services out of Germany to Asia.

as for this most of our Asian flying will be going via DRW and i believe rumour has it that our new A321's are ETOPS and will have some sort of 3rd fuel tank installed to do the asian flights.. we recieve these in july.



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15869 times:



Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 10):
as for this most of our Asian flying will be going via DRW and i believe rumour has it that our new A321's are ETOPS and will have some sort of 3rd fuel tank installed to do the asian flights.. we recieve these in july.

Are these the two Ac QFlyer is reporting due in Jun, reg VWW and VWX?. I notice QFlyer reporting a total of 16 ac to come, anyone know the status of these commitments? What is the breakdown of these commitments (leased/purch second hand/new builds etc etc).  Smile



remember the t shirt "I own an airline"on the front - "qantas" on the back
User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15845 times:



Quoting TN486 (Reply 11):
Are these the two Ac QFlyer is reporting due in Jun, reg VWW and VWX?. I notice QFlyer reporting a total of 16 ac to come, anyone know the status of these commitments? What is the breakdown of these commitments (leased/purch second hand/new builds etc etc).

Yes these are the new A321 "Dog Boxes" comming, wewll atleast this time around they are brand new! Straight from Toulouse and not ex-Spirit or ex-Hapag Loydd
i know we have commited ourselves to 62 A320/321 A/C but need to be spread across Jetstar, Jetstar Asia and Jetstar Pacific.
We have a A320 comming in April VH-VGZ



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User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15706 times:



Quoting TN486 (Reply 8):
Flipping thru some advanced air schedules across Bass Strait and noticed wef 13 Apr QF Dash8-400 now scheduled to do the 2 daily QF flights to LST from MEL and return with a scheduled block time of 65 mins (same as DJ 737/738 block times). Weekdays only, weekends still Dash8-300.

Well I must say I glad to finally see the Q400s in Melbourne I also notice that on the same date the QF2078 the 9:40 weekday departure to Mildura become a Q400. I must say I am impressed with how well QF are holding their own against DJ in Mildura, still great for Mildura! QFs 4 weekday flight and two each on a sat and sun, thus at present 200 seats a weekday and 100 on sat and sun, soon to be 222 weekdays, plus DJs daily E70 flight with 78 seats, small increase but an increase is an increase. Also please to note that the 300s are back on the Devenport run.

Lol and just noticed as well that the 400s will begin to be used on some of the Canberra Melbourne services, are QF taking delivery of some more, in the next couple of months or is this simple a re-shuffle?


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5161 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15623 times:



Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 12):
i know we have commited ourselves to 62 A320/321 A/C but need to be spread across Jetstar, Jetstar Asia and Jetstar Pacific.

Given the expansion into NZ domestic and some more short haul international flying guess that is where the next few delvieries go.

After that, I presume they will want to get Jetstar Pacific in an all 320 operation and get rid of the 737's


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15582 times:



Quoting ANstar (Reply 14):
Given the expansion into NZ domestic and some more short haul international flying guess that is where the next few delvieries go.

After that, I presume they will want to get Jetstar Pacific in an all 320 operation and get rid of the 737's

A320's:
-by June 09 there will be 6 A/C based in New Zealand
-By Dec 09 they want 7 Based in DRW
-Rumour has it that NTL are getting another A/C based here making total to 3 A/C Big grin (this is good as this is my base)
A321's:
- All to be based in MEL

And yes indeed as we have already given Jetstar Pacific 1 A320 A/C but i believe that we are getting the New A/C and sending the JQ rego A/C to Jetstar Pacific. Good riddens i say they are woeful A/C to fly on haha



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User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15580 times:

I wonder if the A321s will eventually be used out of the NZ bases - at peak times of the year they will fly full.

The Virgin Blue E-170 to Mildura is just to give the plane something to do during the day. The strict cost of operating the service does not really matter. The Qantas service is still more useful for people because it lets people do a days business in Melbourne, and they can avoid the expense of staying in a hotel.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15574 times:



Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 16):
I wonder if the A321s will eventually be used out of the NZ bases - at peak times of the year they will fly full.

i believe they are going to be utilised more on MEL - DRW - DPS/SIN/SGN, MEL - OOL, MEL - TSV, MEL - CNS, SYD - OOL etc...
and depending how well JQ go in new zealand you never know!!



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User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15566 times:



Quoting JQFlightie (Reply 17):
i believe they are going to be utilised more on MEL - DRW - DPS/SIN/SGN, MEL - OOL, MEL - TSV, MEL - CNS, SYD - OOL etc...

For the short sectors like SYD-OOL - will JQ have a target of turning the plane in 40 minutes? Will they do a complete food restock in that time?

I had a great time at OOL in year 2000, watching Qantas and Ansett 763s turned very quickly.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15556 times:



Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 18):
For the short sectors like SYD-OOL - will JQ have a target of turning the plane in 40 minutes? Will they do a complete food restock in that time?

I had a great time at OOL in year 2000, watching Qantas and Ansett 763s turned very quickly.

yeah its not a problem, the 321 can be turned around in 30mins, as for catering, OOL isnt a full catering port for us, all catering would be done in SYD or MEL with back-up carts fully stocked aswel, in OOL we get ammenities such as garbage bags, napkins, cups etc...



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15477 times:

In respect to Dash8-400 services from MEL commencing Apr 13, I have come up with the fol summary:
LST-MEL dep 0630 daily, MEL-MQL dep 0835 M,Th,Fri,Sat and return. MEL-CBR dep 0920 Tue and W and return. MEL-CBR dep 1150 Sat and Sun and return. MEL - DPO (eff 20/4) dep 1535 Sat and Sun and return. MEL - LST ex Sat and Sun dep 1510 and return. MEL - LST dep 1855 Daily. I assume (bad thing to do!!) an ac will be based in LST

WEF 13 Apr, MEL - DPO Dep 1145 M,Thu F and return. DPO = Devenport.

Going by the above it would appear there are 2 Dash8-400 involved. If this is all correct, Taswegians I would expect will be pleasantly surprised (not to mention those mainlanders that prefer "real flying" (turbo prop as opposed to pure jet))
 bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15465 times:

I suspect that those in DPO will be happiest fo all they were not impressed when QF pulled the 300s out of there a few years ago to replace them with the crap bug smashing 200s. I'm remember that Southern or Eastern not sure which one based there 146s in LST I think perhaps this is why QF are doing the same with the 400s, basic needs may already be there?

User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15395 times:



Quoting TN486 (Reply 20):
Going by the above it would appear there are 2 Dash8-400 involved. If this is all correct, Taswegians I would expect will be pleasantly surprised (not to mention those mainlanders that prefer "real flying" (turbo prop as opposed to pure jet))
bigthumbsup

If they had not changed Qantas domestic flights in NZ into Jetstar, this is something they could have done for South Island passengers as well. The Q400 might be a good plane for some South Island ports out of CHC, where they would compete against AirNZ ATRs and the single daily Pacific Blue flight into Dunedin. If the Q400 works out of LST to MEL, it would work out of Dunedin to Wellington, which is a similar distance.


User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15379 times:



Quoting TN486 (Reply 20):
In respect to Dash8-400 services from MEL commencing Apr 13, I have come up with the fol summary:
LST-MEL dep 0630 daily, MEL-MQL dep 0835 M,Th,Fri,Sat and return. MEL-CBR dep 0920 Tue and W and return. MEL-CBR dep 1150 Sat and Sun and return. MEL - DPO (eff 20/4) dep 1535 Sat and Sun and return. MEL - LST ex Sat and Sun dep 1510 and return. MEL - LST dep 1855 Daily. I assume (bad thing to do!!) an ac will be based in LST

basing a Q400 would make sense in LST as there is an existing QF hanger there from when QantasLink (Eastern) based their 146's there. Maybe having a crew base there also would be handy, as i know quite a few crew pax on LST-MEL to work mainline QF.



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User currently offlineJQFlightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15374 times:

Our QantasLink ground staff in NTL mentioned that QantasLink may be bringing back the MEL - NTL - MEL flight but with a Q400 on a mid-day flight? would this slot in anywhere with those two A/C's?


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25 TN486 : I had similar thoughts some time ago, the only drawback being costs setting up and maintaining first line maintenance/repair support.
26 6thfreedom : Are any 321's currently operated by JQ in Australia? How far in advance are they put into the timetables, and does the booking engine deal with seat
27 JQFlightie : Yes we currently operate 2 A321 A/C's on our A320's our Over Wing Exits are rows 12 & 13 in our A321's our Emergency Exit rows are rows 9 & 24 These
28 TN486 : [quote=6thfreedom,reply=26]Are any 321's currently operated by JQ in Australia? How far in advance are they put into the timetables, and does the book
29 Alangirvan : I am sure it has occured to Qantas people in NZ - perhaps they did not think there is much value having TPs competing against AirNZ TPs. They did hav
30 747m8te : About time, and I do have some QF credit to use up so I might have to take a trip on QF next time I hop down south home to LST Ah the hanger QF built
31 JQFlightie : that is such a rip-off, ill give you a tip! ask for it at the check0in counters and they will give it to you, because the A/C CANNOT take off is the
32 JQFlightie : ahh good 'ol 717!! LST is comming along great! i go there often as this is our flying pattern for a morning departure NTL - MEL - LST - MEL - NTL it
33 YVR1968 : Good call. And it does work (sometimes). My last flights on JQ from MEL-OOL return, last month, we asked for exit seats at MEL airport and the check-
34 ANstar : I'm still surprised they decided not to send some Q300's over there also. QF with some 737-800's and q300's should have been able to make NZ. Unfortu
35 JQFlightie : i think it was a great move by QF to change to JQ in new zealand, smart business choice. if you look at the figures, its JQ that is making quite a la
36 TN486 : One would hope so, IMHO Hobart terminal is a disgrace (without being too emotive!!), and such a beutiful city, too. Thank you sir, I am flying JQ MEL
37 JQFlightie : is that AVV - SYD or are you taking the MEL - SYD International flight on A330?
38 TN486 : Yes, it is AVV. One needs to be careful, with two airports in the one city, yes!! My wife and I AVV-SYD return for all up (with cc payment) around $1
39 ANstar : A QF A330-200 has been painted with Oneworld titles... are there any pics??
40 Boof : I doubt that an acft will be based in LST. JQ just shut the HBA base down due to size and I can't see what benefit QLink would get from having a smal
41 JQFlightie : Actually MQL was shut because it was the Maintenance base for the Dash 100/200's and QF are getting rid of them all!
42 JQFlightie : JQ have just released that they are re-instating CNS - KIX in December
43 6thfreedom : As JQFlightie hinted in the previous thread, JQ has announced 4pw CNS-KIX from Dec 09.
44 JQFlightie : there was rumour in the company last year saying that JQ was going to eventually have all of QLinks flights and merge the Q400's into JQ Regional, as
45 ANstar : Wow! I owe you a drink! I seriously didn't think it could work with the Japanese recession... but great to see some expansion! I presume this is with
46 Post contains links ANstar : http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...ory/0,28124,25199584-36418,00.html JETSTAR intends to reintroduce services between Cairns and Osaka in December
47 JQFlightie : haha always up for a drink. its with the new aircraft comming at the end of the year, we have really focused on the Japanese routes this year, and ha
48 ANstar : do you know if this is a new aircraft to the group or perhaps a redeployment of one fo the Qantas A330's. They seem to have freed up a few 332 routes
49 JQFlightie : definately a new aircraft. Maybe QF could retire some 767's and use the A330 on domestic routes or even the SYD - HNL route...
50 ANstar : They seem to be using the spare A330's on SYD/MEL-PER runs currently... Perhaps they will reconfigure some of the INT 332's to domestic.
51 JQFlightie : althought they should keep the ex-BA 767's, i like the business class seats as you can get a descent sleep on them!
52 Jbernie : Guys & Gals, Can I get some clarification on QF Economy features? We are taking advantage of the cheap cheap fares and will be traveling DEN-LAX-SYD r
53 Westjet!Eh! : JQflightie...are you allowed to work other jetstar's groups such as Jetstar asia and jetstar pacific without being transfer to another group? doesnt j
54 ANstar : JETSTAR only has minority share holdings in Jetstar Asia & Jetstar Pacific, so I doubt they would offer transfers - especailly as those other airline
55 6thfreedom : don't quite get this... MEL-DPS is twice weekly and SYD-DPS 4pw with A330. Is plan to reduce these to free up A330 capacity for Japan, and to operate
56 ANstar : Towards the end of last year I beleive 2 of the 4 SYD flights were being ops with A320's VIA DRW. They appear to be back to 332 now.
57 DJ748 : JQ currently have a daily flight on the BNE-SYD-DPS route. The stop in DRW allows for pax coming from SYD and MEL to connect onto the DPS leg, and fo
58 6thfreedom : Interesting concept. what does GA operate via MEL and SYD to DPS? are they daily or less than daily? I guess a daily proposition, albeit with one sto
59 DJ748 : GA predominantly operate their A333's to SYD, but I have seen one of their 744's on approach before (October 2007). Not sure what they operate to MEL
60 JQFlightie : they operate A330's int MEL see them there when im on morning shift flying back into MEL from LST. No, we have to be a citizen of the country ifyou g
61 DJ748 : Thats quite an increase over the current 5x weekly service that is currently there for that route. From when are they adding the extra flights?
62 JQFlightie : from memory, i read on internal mail somewhere that its around june time,
63 JQFlightie : although it probably won't happen!
64 DJ748 : Thanks in advance for the heads up, but judging by the not so positive reply, I don't think we'll have too many a.netters holding their breath.
65 JQFlightie : thats ok, im just saying as you never know this industry, things change over night. on to aother subject, i was on Airport Standby on Monday in NTL,
66 Smi0006 : There is no benefit to QF of JQ taking over QFLink, the costs are pretty much the same, QFLink crew earn less than JQ crew, I also believe QFlink gro
67 VHQpa : All 3 Ex Sabena/European Air Charter 732's are 1975 builds turning 34 this year Vhq
68 YVR1968 : I didn't realise that Newcastle even had a JQ crew base. Can anyone provide a list of all the crew bases (within Australia) for QF, JQ, DJ, TT? Thanks
69 JQFlightie : i feel sorry fr the crew on that aircraft, its a very old thing!! Yeah im a JQ NTL bsed Cabin Crew and there is 49 of us there and 15 Tech Crew, we h
70 6thfreedom : I think DJ now also have a crew base in Perth for intrastate and Bali ops. Wouldn't be surprised if JQ open a PER base within 12 months for Bali, SIN
71 JQFlightie : they already tryed opening a PER base by asking crew if were interested, out of all the Team Jetstar staff only 2 people in the whole network applied
72 Smi0006 : The QF has Long-Haul bases are in; SYD, MEL, BNE With MEL, SYD, BNE, CNS, and PER being short-haul bases but with the crews still operating some inte
73 28L28L : Are all National Jet crew based in Perth? Also, were all Impulse crew based in NTL? Cheers
74 Post contains links Boof : My apologies you are quite correct. I was under the impression the whole base was closed but I found this source to confirm it was only the maint sid
75 JQFlightie : No only a small ammount of crew were based in NTL There was a large base in BNE OOL MEL SYD, pretty much where JQ have bases now. yes you are right w
76 SpinalTap : Does anyone know about Qantas' frequent flyer partnership with Continental? It would seem that Continental Airlines One Pass members can earn points o
77 ANstar : That is correct. CO members can earn on QF. i believe this was predominantly for the pacific route where there was no skyteam coverage. Now CO is mov
78 VHVXB : Looks like QF up the ante on trans-pacific route by dropping fares below $900 return
79 Alangirvan : CO seems to have made the Atlantic their first priority as they move towards STAR membership. But, AirNZ members will be able to earn on CO. So, migh
80 ANstar : So cheap.... It is now cheaper to fly to JFK with QF than to Singapore or Port Moreseby... Or about $200 more to LAX than Wellington... MADNESS! But
81 REALDEAL : Age isn't so much an issue as long as well maintained, although what happened to talk of Ozjet getting 733's ? There must be hundreds being park 732'
82 ANstar : Realdeal! Where have you been?
83 REALDEAL : We were blackbanned for saying something political. (guess u can say anything is political, esp. with Qld election this weekend)
84 ANstar : Ah! Well, welcome back anyways! It has been quiet without you around here! lol
85 Ditzyboy : NJS has bases in PER DRW CNS for QFLink ops. And ADL PER (and BNE?) for charter ops. Former NJS bases were MKY ROK BNE CBR for QFLink ops. DRW also h
86 REALDEAL : offsider is in U.S. at present. He was given a some tickets to take some agents over to try & generate some business. believe he'd had a few drinks &
87 ANstar : Looks like QF's LAX-BNE is being reduced. Drops to 5 x weekly on some flight in May and then 6 x weekly in June, but back to daily for now in july. Ju
88 Zkpilot : It just doesn't make much sense!! Load factors in economy are high... its usually quite full and forward bookings are full. Its Business and First Cl
89 ANstar : It makes sense if you want to keep fares LOW and prevent your new competitor (VA) from making any money on the route. In toher news Pac Blue have ann
90 REALDEAL : Hardly !!! Despite offering giveaway fares, flights are relatively empty & forward bookings are absolutely awful. Normally by this time of the year,
91 Zkpilot : Not what I've seen... been lucky to have a spare seat at all in economy to LAX in particular but also a lot of other flights to Asia... sure there ar
92 REALDEAL : Wonder what the timings will be, esp.MEL/NAN where all FJ flights are red eyes admittedly on their 763ER rather than a 737. 2325/0605+1 can't be that
93 ANstar : Both flights leave at 9.05am (EX ADL and MEL) MEL arrives 3.50pm and ADL arrives 4.40pm The return flights leave NAN at ADL 4.35pm and MEL at 5.25PM
94 Gardermoen : Hope Pacific Blue can make MEL/NAN work again - they started this back in 04/05 twice a week(as well as weekly MEL/VLI service) but they all quietly g
95 REALDEAL : short haul still selling, just long haul that isn't !!! (think many people are staying closer to home - cheaper fares & cheaper accom etc)
96 6thfreedom : you have got to be kidding me. what's the flight time? 1 minute? that must be costing FJ a packet. they have lost the plot if they are indeed doing t
97 QF175 : Air Mauritius - Changes to Australia Flights MRU-MEL-MRU nonstops will be discontinued, with services being linked with PER. New schedule (still once
98 QF175 : Comment from ANstar in Aussie Aviation Thread 24: " target=_blank>http://www.bitre.gov.au/publications...M.pdf If you think HIR loads are bad, seen Me
99 ZK-NBT : The aircraft operate MEL-NAN-ADL-NAN-MEL. Aircraft overnights in ADL.
100 ANstar : Pac Blue/Virgin are a different beast these dyas... ie FF program... etc.. EIK... SHOCKING....but who realy wants to go to VLI anyway.. it is a HOLE!
101 DJ748 : I can support that - I flew on Pacific Blue's flights BNE-POM-BNE just the other week - out on March 4, and back on March 9. We had 90 pax on the BNE
102 IndianicWorld : Didn't Air Vanautu upgrade the route to 2 times weekly only fairly recently? It is no secret that MEL is a harder market to operate Pacific Islands f
103 Gardermoen : I thought MEL-VLI was going well for Air Vanuatu. They've only gone twice weekly after getting good loads on the weekly service. A colleague of mine t
104 IndianicWorld : With the latest news regarding AVV and the airport wanting a rail connection to be built, what are your thoughts on this? With MEL having nearly 25 mi
105 Smi0006 : As a Uni student who studies in the city and then works out at the airport I would kill for a train line, would make my life bit easier, (although no
106 LOUMEL : They started on Dec 7th, and check of their schedules shows both these flights transit through Sydney either on the way up (Sun/NF34) or the way down
107 IndianicWorld : Isn't there enough hotel rooms around there with Hilton, Formule 1 and Holiday Inn in the Terminal precinct and the new Mantra off airport ground on
108 Jbernie : Not familiar with the rail setup in Melbourne as I grew up in Sydney but could they run dedicated lines from both airports and then do a connection/t
109 Tayser : There are rail corridors already existing near both airports. The Vic government released a plan 6 months ago to provide a regional-only line into Mel
110 Jbernie : What is the definition of "frequent"? Could they run once every 60 - 90 mins or so? It might not be perfect timing for some but it does provide an al
111 ANstar : It depends - what if all those PAX were Air PNG customers and Pac Blue hadn;t sold a single seat? Fiji has much more to offer in terms of accomodatio
112 REALDEAL : all are red eyes dep MEL 2325, arr NAN 0605+1. Not the most family friendly hours. Fj might now look at how they can do a daylight op ex MEL to compe
113 Rsg85 : With all the current train issues in Melbourne (both connex and vline) i know id much rather take a skybus or taxi over a train, knowing i was going t
114 Smi0006 : To true although even thought the system is not particularly reliable I believe that rail patronage has increased by something like 20% over the last
115 6thfreedom : I think it would a bit different $$ wise to get a turboprop off the ground for NTL-SYD compared to a narrowbody to operate half that distance. I hope
116 Qantas787 : I remember when the better half used to do BNE-OOL regularly on the venerable 727, just doing BNE-OOL-SYD every morning.Probably the service Ansett of
117 VH-BZF : Yes there already is an underground area, built when the airport was, for a train station it and it sits between T2 & T3 in front of the Hilton. ***M
118 747m8te : Agreed, and at the moment the skybus service is very good and reliable, about 20min into the city (Southern Cross) with regular and timely services,
119 Tayser : The most logical service pattern to AVV is to have a triangle junction on the Geelong mainline with a branch into AVV where trains from Melbourne go
120 Antskip : The Melbourne rail system is utterly Un-reliable! It is poorly-resourced, under-maintained, and timings are a lottery. Recent increases in use and ti
121 Post contains links TruemanQLD : http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...lane-emergency-landing-terrifying/
122 Post contains links TN486 : A change of topic (IMHO Skybus works well - Why spend $ on rail, for what benefit?? What would the feasibility be of providing a Skybus link to AVV on
123 Rsg85 : i was just out at MEL, 5 777's there at the same time! VA EK MH SQ NZ and thats just the ones i could see, possibly more on the other side of terminal
124 Post contains links Antskip : There's a photo at the moment of the damaged A345 on the web page of the Herald Sun newspaper: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/. The newspaper's use
125 TN486 : my understanding that, apart from the VA777, this is the norm for Sat in MEL, with the exception of VA. I checked MEL departurers but I cant seem to
126 TN486 : I understood you are referring to the EK777 in this post, hence the reason for my request in post number 125. I suspect the A345 may still be there a
127 Rsg85 : Its sitting in a bad spot for pics, unless u have airside access. theres a 737 parked next to it blocking a photo op. The a340 is at the qf freight,
128 TN486 : I am sure you meant Airbus experts, Yes?
129 Smi0006 : I herd four or five weeks!! Some one is in for tea and biscuits with management me thinks Sounds rather creepy really, but surprisingly good planning
130 Anstar : I can't imagine EK being to gentle on them anyways!
131 Antskip : I don't think the concepts Planning and Melbourne Public transport should be associated with each other.The phantom train stations are more likely fo
132 Zkpilot : Have you got any plans/pictures or links to them? Would love to see what they had in mind.
133 Post contains links Tayser : The only publicly available info was the release of the updated MEL masterplan. From the PDF: http://www.melbourneairport.com.au/about_airport/plannin
134 TN486 : well, there goes my fav spotting location.
135 Tayser : you've got about 10 years
136 Post contains links Tayser : More LinFox shenanigans at AVV: http://www.theage.com.au/national/fo...it-and-veg-lift-20090321-951t.html article snippet: Fox airport may take off wi
137 Singapore_Air : Qantas chief to slash jobs in executive shake-up Michael Smith Australian Financial Review (Abstracts) Qantas Airways is expected to cut up to 100 sen
138 Rsg85 : Emirates A340 is now at John Holland, pics in the tailstrike thread. A330 CS-TMT has been moved to a better spot for pics to make room for the 340. 73
139 REALDEAL : Wonder where VBT is heading ? (don't think it was delivered new to DJ - think they picked it up for a song straight after SEP11 - wasn't it a Midway
140 Rsg85 : Yes ex midway N365ML 737-7BX Current details from CASA Registration holder as of 02 August 2005 OGYGIAN PTY LIMITED C/- Ge Commercial Aviation Servic
141 REALDEAL : so being all white, doesn't this mean that there is no new operator ? (seems an expensive exercise to paint ared aircraft white - why would they both
142 Boof : Can someone shed some light on the following for me please.... I spotted a First Choice 757 at HBA this afternoon. I think it was G-OOBG (didn't get c
143 ANstar : I also saw a First Choice 757 in Cairns on the weekend, so preusme it did CNS-HBA?
144 Airvan00 : Another possibility could be the SYD-JNB flight on a southerly routing. It should be over or abeam HBA around noon.
145 Zkpilot : Possibly SYD-EZE also although unlikely.
146 QF175 : QantasLink is expected to resume Dash 8-200 services to Mount Hotham in time for the 2009 Ski season. Services are expected to commence 3JUL and cease
147 Boof : I don't know when it arrived and it was all locked up by 1430 at HBA yesterday so I would assume you are correct. It was still there this morning as
148 Flyjetstar : No it was from CHC because I saw it at CHC on Sunday afternoon, assuming it is the same aircraft - G-OOBC.
149 ANstar : Must be different aircraft then as I sawa First Choice 757 parked at the international terminal in Cairns on Sunday as we were taxiing. It was also t
150 YVR1968 : Does anybody know what type of aircraft QF will be using for their flyover at the Formula 1 in Melbourne this Sunday? Hoping its the A380! The last fe
151 Airvan00 : Well the time fits, VH-OJK departed SYD at 1225 Local on 15/3/09 on flight QF64 to JNB, so 1330 Local is reasonable for the 560nm to HBA. The heading
152 Boof : That would fit the bill perfectly!! Thanks so much for your help Airvan00!!
153 CHCalfonzo : GO757 departed CHC for HBA at 11am Sunday. Not sure about the reg sorry, definately a First Choice 757 though.
154 Flyjetstar : Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I saw it on Sunday afternoon when I got back from Melbourne.
155 CHCalfonzo : Sorry, my mistake. You are right, it departed Monday
156 6thfreedom : Is first choice the same as Thomsonfly? anyway, I think the aircraft in CNS is an 88 seat J class offering. almost a weekly charter operating from Ap
157 Boof : Yes you are correct. I went and took another look today. It was G-OOGD arrived from CHC on Monday AM with 56 pax on a world tour, departs HBA on Thur
158 Post contains links Tayser : http://www.theage.com.au/travel/trav...-domestic-bliss-20090318-91gi.html A common border will dispense with trans-Tasman customs and immigration, wri
159 Jetfuel : Does anybody know where or if VA has got another new 773 for the BNE-LAX service which starts in 2 weeks
160 Jbernie : On Jan 9th this year their 3rd aircraft was 2nd from the end on the production line at Boeing's Everett facility. So depending on how long it takes t
161 Flyjetstar : Jetstar has axed its entire staff in Tasmania, and four Qantas baggage handlers who work jointly for both carriers are also expected to lose their job
162 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Qantas A380 in trouble again, grounded at Sydney Qantas appears to be having issues with its A380 fleet again, with Tuesday’s London flight failing
163 VH-BZF : I know I am going to be slagged for this but here goes: I've just heard from a friend of mine in the industry that VBlue are in some serious trouble.
164 Jetfuel : Both QAN and VBA companies have taken a beating on the stock market. At the moment both are losing unprecedented amounts. Lots of people are very sca
165 ANstar : I find this VERY hard to beleive. Virgin Blue were only asked by the ASX 2 weeks ago if their guidance for the full year had changed by more than 15%
166 Boof : I was going to post this myself yesterday but you beat me to it. Beleive it or not... I was told about this over a week ago by a fellow formerly empl
167 6thfreedom : These same Australian airlines were slugging people during the good times, so perhaps they should have been better prepared for the bad times. Tiger
168 Post contains links MilesDependent : Virgin Blue To Remove 5 Boeing 737 Aircraft From Service SYDNEY (Dow Jones)--Virgin Blue Holdings Ltd. (VBA.AU) said Thursday it will remove five Boei
169 TN486 : Boof, I couldnt agree more with you, however it is called the "grapevine", a system entrenched within the Australian business culture, and it aint ab
170 ANstar : Interesting that the same stuff was posted on AFF and the IP was found to have come from a Qantas IP address. Dirty tricks? I believe this is the sam
171 Boof : According to today's Australian you are correct. What I cannot figure out is from the press release about the withdrawals DJ have said "Virgin Blue h
172 6thfreedom : I also thought that the cuts were reductions on existing services, and no sectors would be cancelled. If ADL-HBA has been dropped, this would have to
173 Boof : Well yes I agree that Tiger may have had an effect on the decision and I imagine it is a marginal route but to simply walk away from the route is har
174 ANstar : Pacific Blue are start non stop MEL-DPS and SYD-DPS flights. MEL will get 3 x weekly on Tue/Th/Sa from what I can see on their site. SYD will get 2 x
175 Boof : By the way I love the news.com.au link about the DJ cutbacks: 'Fewer Virgins on busy routes' That is classic comedy!
176 QF175 : DJ has applied for 3x weekly services to another South-East Asian port ex-DPS. It's not Singapore as rumoured previously! Stay tuned BNE-DPS is doing
177 Smi0006 : Great news for MEL, I must say though I was always suprised that JQ hadn't upped the capacity to DPS, perhaps we will see them do it now as a respons
178 6thfreedom : Don't forget that not all services are return ops with the same aircraft, some services may go onto or originate in Perth, as happens occasionally no
179 QF175 : Looks like it may be PER-DPS-HKT. Perhaps there may be an announcement sometime today! Cheers
180 Post contains links REALDEAL : SYD/DPS is a long sector for a 737. www.World-Airport-Codes.com says ... Distance between SYD and DPS We cannot guarantee the accuracy of this inform
181 QF175 : I see Virgin Blue has downguaged most Melbourne - Adelaide services to E90 from 73G/H. SYD-LST has reportedly been make a seasonal service like BNE-LS
182 6thfreedom : That is a strange one.. perhaps it will utlise the PER-DPS aircraft, but on it's own, the services would compete head on with Air Asia X PER-KUL-HKT,
183 ANstar : The benefit with Pacific Blue is you could check your bags all the way through. Perhaps they are trying to get some of the DPS-HKT holiday / backpack
184 747m8te : I can't understand why they would do that, everyone I know who has flown on that service always say the flight was completely full, and is almost alw
185 YVR1968 : As are BNE-ADL flights. MEL-ADL frequency is increasing though from 9 daily to 12 daily. DJ's website still showing SYD-LST daily throughout the whol
186 IndianicWorld : I guess that this comes down to it being easier for them to hub passengers through MEL for LST services. That may be the reason for this. It uses les
187 YVR1968 : Again, look at Virgin's website. The SYD-LST daily flight is still showing on their timetables for the whole year. I don't know where that "reported"
188 QF175 : What is your point?. BNE-ADL has been operating with E90s since the Embraers were first delivered - nothing new! Incorrect, BNE-LST remains seasonal
189 YVR1968 : I direct you to the Virgin Blue website and this quote from their press release this morning: As of this morning they are reflected on Virgin Blue’
190 6thfreedom : i wouldn't have thought there would be much of a market between HKT and DPS on a stand alone basis. With feed from Australia, then it is a different
191 DJ748 : I can agree with you there YVR1968, nothing against you QF175 (haven't heard from you lately.....). I have been going through DJ's flight numbers out
192 DJ738 : No, they don't. Airlines PNG pay for the 100 seats each flight irrelevant of whether they manage to on-sell them or not. Rubbish. Penang anyone?
193 QF175 : The IASC website states the following: Alas, the PDF document is not available for download. Since making the initial post, I was informed that the r
194 QF175 : Planned Qantas Int Flight Cancellations: BNE-LAX-BNE (QF15/QF16) 11MAY, 13MAY, 17MAY, 20MAY, 23MAY, 26MAY, 31MAY, 02JUN, 05JUN, 17JUN, 21JUN, 3JUL09 S
195 Zkpilot : Thats quite a lot...especially LAX. Then again I know of at least one recent LAX-MEL flight that had a grand total of 7 passengers in J, 0 in F, Y+ s
196 YVR1968 : My parents just visited and flew LAX-MEL (earlier this month) and SYD-LAX (last week) and both flights as my dad said were "empty!" He said both busi
197 Jbernie : We are booked May 13th LAX-SYD (QF12) and May 27th SYD-LAX (QF107), so far so good on missing the cancellations. I chose the QF12 flight as it schedu
198 6thfreedom : Can't say that I have heard anything, although I think MH is dropping 2pw KUL-SYD-BNE-KUL services, making it 5pw in total. Over what period of time?
199 VH-BZF : My understanding from a friend at Qantas is that they believe that VB will remain a player in the market going forward, however they are being slamme
200 Zkpilot : My understanding is that it has been like this for some time but particularly over the past month or so. People being given money to volunteer to be
201 REALDEAL : This is common practice, (has been for years) esp BNE/SYD early weekday mornings. Say it's non daylight saving time ... Might be 0600, 0630 & 0700 de
202 Post contains links Sydscott : For those that weren't up early this morning there was an interview broadcast on ABC 1 regarding Etihad and how they're going/future plans for Austral
203 Smi0006 : Today is also the first day of service for EY in Melbourne; EY460 codeshare with QF315 arrives from Abu Dhabi 191:5 EY461 to Abu Dhabi codeshare with
204 Jbguller : Not sure if anyone noticed, but they used QFs OneWorld logojet at the F1 GP today, it's a 747-400 not sure what rego or if it's an /ER
205 YVR1968 : Hey there. Got some great shots of it. VH-OEB.
206 Ben175 : Great to see the CEO of EY mention PER! It's a good sign for us over in the West.
207 Post contains links ANstar : http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...s-with-contempt-20090330-9g3v.html Qantas workers have staged a stop work at Sydney domestic & international as
208 Post contains links Tayser : Eithad has arrived. http://mel.webtrak-lochard.com/template/index.html
209 TN486 : Give anything to be the pilot of the QF Link Dash8-300, sandwiched between a SQ Cargo 744 and the EY A340-600, thanks TAYSER.
210 IndianicWorld : Was interesting evening at the airport tonight.. 2 RAAF Hercules, the SQ cargo 747, and EY, all things I had never seen in MEL before. Was great to fi
211 Monteycarlos : Just to clarify, the simple answer to that is no. JQ, 3K and BL crew are isolated as they are seperate legal entities, with seperate agreements and o
212 Post contains links Allrite : Australian Aviation Thread 26 is now up.
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