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Ap629 (AZ Formerly AirOne) Emergency @ ORD  
User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7219 times:

Any new ?

www.repubblica.it funny head article reports a picture took from FLIGHT SIMULATOR (welcome to Italy) Air One livery 737.

the article tells :

"ROMA - Atterraggio di emergenza a Chicago per un airbus 330 della compagnia ex Airone (ora Cai). Sul volo Ap 629 diretto a Roma, poco dopo il decollo, a tremila piedi, si sarebbe verificato un problema con gli strumenti di pressurizzazione e il fumo avrebbe invaso la cabina di pilotaggio e la carlinga dei passeggeri, che erano 240.

Impossibile utilizzare le mascherine dell'ossigeno. Il mezzo viaggiava col pieno di carburante. L'emergenza sarebbe stata risolta nel migliore dei modi, con il rientro in aeroporto, grazie al pilota, Emidio Isidoro, di Pescara. L'episodio è avvenuto alle 22.30 ora locale."

flight AP629, type is airbus 330, 240pax, smoke in the cabin, landed safely. Not explicitly indicated, but I guess landed overweight. Updates welcome

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User currently offlineIDISA From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7124 times:

Yes, just read this on the news... As always very confusing report by media, I don't understand what's the connection between the pressurization system (at 3000 ft there's no big difference in pressure) and smoke in the cockpit/cabin.
Better wait a little more and get some more info.


User currently offlineCurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7085 times:



Quoting Max777geek (Thread starter):
I don't understand what's the connection between the pressurization system (at 3000 ft there's no big difference in pressure) and smoke in the cockpit/cabin.
Better wait a little more and get some more info.

Maybe some engine problems, hence the smoke being sucked into the air conditioning and spilled into the cabin. Happened several times in the past. It is however confusing news, so I absolutely agree it's early to tell.



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User currently offlineBeagleboys From Italy, joined Jun 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6910 times:

it's not smoke... its condense... its normal when you get a sudden decompression...


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User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6904 times:



Quoting IDISA (Reply 1):
I don't understand what's the connection between the pressurization system (at 3000 ft there's no big difference in pressure)

Im not much into airbus's but I heard they start slowly pressurizing still on ground right after doors are closed, to avoid hear bumps while climbing.

Forward reading the article I reported, it says also "impossible to use oxygen masks because of full load of fuel" I assume the two won't conflict, but at 3k feet what would suggest oxygen masks are needed ? Are they used also in case of smoke in the cabin to help people breath (likewise fireguard ones) ? tought they were there just to help in case of cruise level depressurization.


User currently offlineRicardofg From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6764 times:



Quoting IDISA (Reply 1):
at 3000 ft there's no big difference in pressure

happened at 3000m, not feet.


User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6644 times:



Quoting Ricardofg (Reply 5):
happened at 3000m, not feet.

No....

3000 piedi as stated in article. Piedi means Feet.

Leo  Wink



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User currently onlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6543 times:

G'day

I am so sorry to end all the speculation on this

http://avherald.com/h?article=41678132&opt=0

Quote:

An Air One/Alitalia Airbus A330-200, registration EI-DIR performing flight AP-629/AZ-629 from Chicago O'Hare,IL (USA) to Rome Fiumicino (Italy) with 240 passengers, returned to O'Hare Airport after thick smoke entered cockpit and cabin after liftoff. The crew performed a safe overweight landing 5 minutes after liftoff.

Alitalia (merged with Air One) reported, that the airplane had problems with its air conditioning system causing relatively thick smoke entering the cockpit and cabin as the airplane climbed through 3000 feet.

Unquote:


Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6249 times:



Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 7):
3000 feet

Well, repubblica isn't by far the most reliable source of informations, but for sure, 3 thousands feet aren't the the flight level Id been expecting the oxygen masks to come down.... not to help breathing in the smoke for sure. From there Id say they came down quicker as number one, and just open everything that could be opened as the airplane stopped.


User currently offlineAirproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

Funny to see how this newspaper is thanking only one man:

Quoting Max777geek (Thread starter):
grazie al pilota, Emidio Isidoro, di Pescara.

I suppose he was the captain on the flight, but certainly not the only one to handle the problem!
Funny point of view anyway....



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User currently offlineBeagleboys From Italy, joined Jun 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

Quoting Max777geek (Reply 4):
Are they used also in case of smoke in the cabin t

no the cabin masks are open to mix oxigen with air so in case of smoke are useless. Also oxygen are higly inflammable so in case of fire it's a good idea to avoid it... You can use the smoke hood for this purpose but are only for crew. When a cabin is filled of smoke its very difficult that the plane is still flying...

[Edited 2009-03-15 02:28:24]


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