SafetyDemo From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10392 times:
PIT - Pittsburgh, PA - USAirways
The airline started here many moons ago - and these days you'd barely even know they flew there! Most of the flying is RJ ... and most of the gates at the airport are blocked off and empty. I think Concourse D is the busiest concourse now - home to DL, AA, NW and YX. The hub started falling apart after 9/11 and when USAirways was bought by America West, the writing was on the wall. Philadelphia "makes more money" and PIT "doesn't". I think USAirways had around 600 daily flights out of PIT at its height?
What a shame...
Please direct your attention to the flight attendants in the cabin...
CIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2403 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10348 times:
STL for sure, once huge for AA and TWA. Still a hub but no where near what it once was, I think they used to run about 500 flights a day there, now down to 108
BNA would be another one for AA, they used to hub there and had about 250 flights a day, now they only get AA to DCA, LGA, DFW, STL, MIA, ORD and LAX. Southwest did step up there though, but not to the level at AA once was, I think they only run about 80 flights a day there.
RDU for AA is yet another hub AA shrunk. It was like BNA, had about 250 flights a day or so, now to focus city status, I think they have about 60 flights a day or so, flights to major business destinations along the east coast, as well as to the DFW, STL, ORD and MIA hubs. Of note though they did retain their London flight, used to be LGW, now to LHR.
BWI5OH From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 176 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10162 times:
Although not a shell now, BWI was CLOSE to becoming one. Piedmont and USAir had a huge interest in BWI. They practically owned concourse D, which was expanded in the late 80's and 90's to handle the regionals. Then it was the launch city for Metrojet, which didn't last long. Southwest Airlines started putting a a$$-whoopin' on US in the late 90's, and 9/11 sealed the fate of US Airways at BWI. I remember working there in the months following 9/11, and walking down D concourse was like walking in a ghost city...no flights, no people and no businesses. US refused to give up the gate space until the leases expired on them. Now UA, which used to fly from A concourse, and AirTran pretty much have the run of concourse D, but the regional gates (I think 30-47) are not used much at all.
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks ago) and read 9872 times:
Republic used to boast that it had more daily departures from Phoenix than any other airline. They also had a sizable operation in Atlanta. Both of those hubs/focus cities were pulled-down prior to the merger with Northwest.
Lexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks ago) and read 9865 times:
Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 2): BNA would be another one for AA, they used to hub there and had about 250 flights a day, now they only get AA to DCA, LGA, DFW, STL, MIA, ORD and LAX. Southwest did step up there though, but not to the level at AA once was, I think they only run about 80 flights a day there.
American still has a decent (and even large by most stations standards) presence here at BNA despite dehubbing the station a while ago. It's really an important domestic destination for them still to this day actually. That's even more magnified when you think about how WN has between 80 and 90 operations a day here and considers BNA one of their "Focus City's". I think that speaks well to the brand and to the loyalty here. This was reinforced when the Admirals Club re-opened.
FWIW, the AA presence here is in no way "propped" up by any major contracts like it is in some cities that once were a hub for AA. The flights are here because there are enough people traveling on them to warrant them. I know in one thread on here a while back, one poster seemed to think the service here was being subsidized to a certain degree by corporate contracts and that's not the case at all.
747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1194 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks ago) and read 9826 times:
Although it is still a DL hub as of now, CVG could definitely be considered a shell of what it once was.
At its peak in 2005, DL operated around 600 flights a day to/from CVG, with well over 100 of them being mainline. There was a large amount of 757 flights there throughout the 90's and early 2000's and even a few domestic 767 flights. DL flew 777's there and AF and Sabena formerly served CVG (Sabena pulled out around 2000, AF I believe in '06).
Fast forward to 2009 and there are only around 40 DL mainline flights with most transcons being operated by 738's rather than 752's (JFK and SLC are the only domestic 757 flights). Additionally Concourse C has been closed and there are well less than 300 flights a day from the hub, which may no longer be a hub a year or 2 from now.
A real shame because I'm a regular spotter there (not much more than an hour drive from my house) and it has a dedicated spotting area with an excellent view of the hub operation.
FlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks ago) and read 9789 times:
CVG for Delta. I don't think I need to go into to many detais - just a shame that I remember flying a 767-300 on ATL-CVG and remember when CVG had a quite a few domestic widebodies. Now there's no domestic widebodies and only a handful of domestic flights even on 757s.
LAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks ago) and read 9737 times:
Quoting Lexy (Reply 16): FWIW, the AA presence here is in no way "propped" up by any major contracts like it is in some cities that once were a hub for AA. The flights are here because there are enough people traveling on them to warrant them. I know in one thread on here a while back, one poster seemed to think the service here was being subsidized to a certain degree by corporate contracts and that's not the case at all.
I believe AA does have a contract for the LAX-BNA flight.
Trust me, I used to work on Music Row, there isn't a contract. There is a full airplane almost everyother day though. There is alot of demand on BNA-LAX contrary to what most on here would want to think.
Wolfpacker From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9398 times:
RDU was an AA hub for a while and then pulled out. JI took over and then went bankrupt, I worked for JI for the 1st 2 years at RDU.
I honestly think RDU is better off without a hub. WN came in and has a good presence and there are still flights to major cities on other airlines. The airport authority claimed, bought, the old AA/JI terminal and are 1/2 done with a new terminal. I don't think that would have happened if RDU had stayed a hub.