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Bombardier Delivery Flight - Trackable?  
User currently onlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2562 times:

Good evening folks,

I was talking with one of my neighbors the other day, who is a pilot for a local business. He was mentioning the plane that they have on order from Bombardier - a Global Express, if I'm not mistaken - and said that it was supposed to be delivered in December, but has yet to be.

It was then that it clicked, that I have a chance to catch the plane when it comes in. My question is, does Bombardier post their deliveries at all? Or would it be flight-trackable? Is there a possibility where I could have an alert when a flight opens up from say YUL-SBM, or (as I see, depending on a variant), STL-SBM? I assume they wouldn't be making a stop on such a short delivery flight.. Also, at the time of delivery, would the plane still be wearing a C-reg, or will it be in an N-number already?

Once it gets within range, I should be able to pick it up on my scanner, but that'll be probably 10 minutes or less from touchdown...

Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks much.

P. Valenstein.


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User currently onlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Isn't there ANY information anyone can give me on this?


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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1611 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

You might be able to catch it on FlightAware. We've had a lot of Dash 8s on delivery flights come though my home airport, all of which have been trackable there.


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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

BBD's Global Express is assembled at YZD. I assume they are delivered from there, not YUL.
However it has just occurred to me that they probably go somewhere else for fitting of the interiors.


User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

Global's are delivered green to outfitters--ex. Midcoast at KCPS. From there I believe that the pilots/organization will accept delivery after completion at the facility and then fly it to it's 'home'

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2252 times:



Quoting MidEx216 (Reply 1):
Isn't there ANY information anyone can give me on this?

With a private plane you can track by registration number... as long as it is not restricted access by the owner.



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User currently onlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2199 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
as long as it is not restricted access by the owner

Well, I'm sure this company restricts it's tracking, but that's why I was curious if it would be delivered as a Bombardier plane or as a business-owned plane.

Hmm, so I guess I'd pretty much have to find out where it'll be outfitted, or when it'll be delivered, and those are my only two shots eh?



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User currently offlineWumzi From Canada, joined Mar 2008, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

If I recall correctly, Globals are built in YYZ, then flown green to the completion center in YUL for interiors installation.

User currently offlineBravo1six From Canada, joined Dec 2007, 397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2118 times:



Quoting Wumzi (Reply 7):
If I recall correctly, Globals are built in YYZ, then flown green to the completion center in YUL for interiors installation.

Built at YZD, then flown out to various completion centers which can include YUL, but there are others.


User currently offlineBravo1six From Canada, joined Dec 2007, 397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2112 times:



Quoting MidEx216 (Reply 6):
Well, I'm sure this company restricts it's tracking, but that's why I was curious if it would be delivered as a Bombardier plane or as a business-owned plane.

Hmm, so I guess I'd pretty much have to find out where it'll be outfitted, or when it'll be delivered, and those are my only two shots eh?

Highly unlikely it would be delivered as a BBD aircraft, but even if it was, you wouldn't be able to match up the BBD flight number with the MSN of the Global since FlightAware doesn't list the aircraft MSN (as far as I know) and if operating as a BBD aircraft it would be listed by its callsign, not its reg.


User currently offlineH53Epilot From Israel, joined Mar 2004, 177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2007 times:



Quoting Bravo1six (Reply 8):
Built at YZD, then flown out to various completion centers which can include YUL, but there are others.

The Global is no longer built at YZD, hasn't been for a couple of years. Now it's built at YUL. The Q series is still built at YZD.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

An aircraft will only fly under that manufacturer's callsign when under the manufacturer's control. Once the keys have been handed over, everything with the aircraft is done with the operators callsign and Op Specs, if they have them. For the most part, a delivery flight only occurs AFTER final payment is made, and the formal "ceremony" is done, signing over the aircaft to the new owner.


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User currently offlineBravo1six From Canada, joined Dec 2007, 397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1986 times:



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 11):
An aircraft will only fly under that manufacturer's callsign when under the manufacturer's control. Once the keys have been handed over, everything with the aircraft is done with the operators callsign and Op Specs, if they have them. For the most part, a delivery flight only occurs AFTER final payment is made, and the formal "ceremony" is done, signing over the aircaft to the new owner.

Correct. But sometimes the aircraft is leased back to the manufacturer for purposes of a ferry flight, like if the operator doesn't have a crew readily available. In that case, it will fly under the manufacturer's callsign.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1975 times:



Quoting Bravo1six (Reply 12):
But sometimes the aircraft is leased back to the manufacturer for purposes of a ferry flight

Like I said, for the most part.  Wink There's always an exception.



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User currently onlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Soo, I'm not giving this up..

I just saw this picture on the database...


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Is there any way to find out if this is the plane I'm looking for?



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User currently offlineTribird1011 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1742 times:

Not sure if that is the plane you're looking for or not, but by looking at the photo date, there were 2 more Globals parked at YYZ (9332 and 9333). so it might be any one of these 3.

sorry can't be any more help.


User currently onlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1722 times:

Well, I don't know what plane exactly I'm looking for, but it would be for Kohler Co, registered as N***KK. I don't know if anyone can find any info regarding this, but I'd be highly appreciative.


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