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Why Did GF/KU Miss The Boat?  
User currently offlineTFFIP From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 211 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Why did Gulfair and Kuwait Airlines not become the Emirates or Etihads of the Gulf - and the world.
They were already there, swimming in oil and had a not unsuccessful product that could have been developed. Just curious.....

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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

The desire of Abu Dhabi and Qatar to have large carriers of their own lead to the demise of GF, which they both once held an important stake in. At one point GF was the jewel of Arabian Gulf aviation.

As for KU the Kuwaitis never had such far reaching ambitions and their entire aviation sector was ripped to pieces by Saddam and his henchmen during Gulf War I.

YOWza

[Edited 2009-03-18 01:47:55]


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User currently offlineKFly From Australia, joined May 2004, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Maybe contrary to popular A.Net belief, the growth of Emirates, Qatar and Etihad have nothing to do with oil?  Smile


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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2243 times:



Quoting KFly (Reply 2):
Maybe contrary to popular A.Net belief, the growth of Emirates, Qatar and Etihad have nothing to do with oil?

EK being a part of Dubai Inc was created by royal decree as part of a broader plan to bring revenues to the emirate in view of a small and shrinking oil reserve.

EY and QR were born of governments flush with oil and gas money. Both governments, Abu Dhabi and Qatar still have enough money to do whatever they want.

YOWza



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User currently offlineColts001 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Dubai does not have the oil reserve as some of there neighbouring emirates/countries so the ruler of Dubai wanted to diversify Dubai's economy to a trading/financial/leisure market, that is the reason for all the new hotels/malls as well as bigger airline.

EY & QR didn't want to be overshadowed by the growth of emirates so they are expanding as well and offcourse they both have the backing of the govt which have deep pockets.


User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1643 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

As has been mentioned, the establishment of EY pretty much put the nail in the coffin for GF. Over the years as more Gulf states left the original union that formed Gulf Air to establish their own carriers, GF simply became weaker and weaker. The rise of Emirates overshadowed their continually weakening cousins at GF.

As for KU, the impression I also get from them is that they never really had the desire to expand and establish themselves as a reputable carrier, and lacked the ambition to fully realize their potential and compete with the likes of EK and later QR and EY. As is, KU usually grabs passengers as the cheapest option from point A to B. If they aren't, then people don't fly them.

Flew KU once between BKK and MNL as they were the cheapest option. The shabbly maintained A343 got to BKK from KWI 5 hours late, we only got to MNL in ungodly hours of the morning with very little word from ground staff in BKK and no acknowledgment of the delay from the cabin crew. PTVs were inop, Middle Eastern crew completely invisible. It completely looked like the Filipina and Thai crew were doing all the work, which probably turned out to be the truth. Since then, I've avoided KU even if they are the cheapest.



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