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The Future Of LH Regional Fleet  
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7077 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

Although it has been discussed in the CSeries thread, I wanted to open this new thread to discuss this article on LH´s future regional fleet:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...haul-to-cull-bae-146-and-avro.html

This article gives an outlook on how the various new regional aircraft by LH over the last few years will be operated:

Eurowings will receive 15 CRJ 900NG to replace their aging fleet of Avros and will become an all CRJ fleet

Lufthansa Cityline will get 20 EJets to replace their Avros and CRJ 200. 14 CRJ 200 will be removed from the fleet.

5 Embraers will go to Air Dolimit as we already knew and the 5 remaining EJets will be assigned to Augsburg Airlines.

In total LH will get 16 E190 and 14 larger 195

As already discussed in the CSeries thread Swiss will get the CSeries to replace their fleet of Avros. First delivery is expected around 2014.

Will be an interesting regional fleet, the idea of Eurowings becoming an all CRJ operator makes sense. I still don´t know why Augsburg is getting the EJet so far they only operate Dash 8-300 and -400 aircraft.


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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7690 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

There will not be many Bae146 left in Europe in about 5 years.

User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3459 times:



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
I still don´t know why Augsburg is getting the EJet so far they only operate Dash 8-300 and -400 aircraft.

Yes, thats my thought exactly.
There is not really a need for jets for their routes.
Anything to do with a lack of trust in the Q400s reliability?


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3382 times:
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LH Cityline will have a great opportunity to match capacity with demand, then.

CRJ700 = 70 seats
CRJ900 = 84 seats
E190 = 100 seats
E195 = 116 seats

LH Group doesn't have any scope clauses limiting seats to 100 or so then?

Will Eurowings fly longer routes, as I assume the CRJ900NG are Long Range birds?



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2990 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3302 times:



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Eurowings will receive 15 CRJ 900NG to replace their aging fleet of Avros and will become an all CRJ fleet

18 CRJ-200
3 CRJ-700
and 15 CRJ-900NG

this is a good decision I think!

Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Lufthansa Cityline will get 20 EJets to replace their Avros and CRJ 200. 14 CRJ 200 will be removed from the fleet.

at the moment the fleet has 18 Avros and 22 CRJ-200. are they going to replace 40 aircraft in total with 20 E-Jets?
and the E's have more capacity as a CRJ-200 (almost double). What will happen to the 50-seater segment?


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7077 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3200 times:



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
What will happen to the 50-seater segment?

I guess it will be handed over to other partners of LH such as Eurowings, Contact Air and Augsburg
The CRJ 200 will leave the fleet completely.



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2969 times:
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Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 4):
What will happen to the 50-seater segment?

I suppose that as long as LH offers every biz pax two seats on the CRJs, the CRJ200 is too small. If there are 15 biz pax on a flight they will occupy 30 seats, leaving only 20 seats for Y. The CRJ700 has 20 more seats, which helps a bit.

The LH Group CRJ100/200s must be 10-17 years old now with a lot of cycles. Perhaps they are due for retirement soon anyway...?

Somewhat on topic: Does Bombardier offer part of the CRJ900NextGen cabin as a retrofit package for older CRJ700/900s? Obviously the windows cannot be extended by 2 inches, but can the new side panels and larger overhead bins be installed on the CityLine CRJ700/900s when they are due for C or D checks? The larger bins will surely be appreciated...



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