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History Of UA At SUX?  
User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

I am writing this forum to figure out UA service history at SUX. I thought I remember UA running 737's and 727's in and out of SUX to ORD and DEN in the late 80's. However, it seems that after the crash of UA 232 and the fact that fares were lower at OMA, FSD, and MCI, the service collapsed. Did they ever fly RJ's in and out of SUX or was the mainline service the last service at SUX for UA?

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User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6014 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

At one time, they had service with a DC-10. Didn't turnout very well, though.


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User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Oh, wow. You might be driving the bus to hell  Smile

User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

I dont think RJ ever flew to SUX. UA was out long before they had RJs. I think they did fly teh D38 from SUX-DEN in 2000 or so, but I might be wrong.

UA I dont think ever flew SUX-ORD. They flew to DEN. OZ flew SUX-ORD


User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6014 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3453 times:



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 2):
You might be driving the bus to hell

I don't know about Hell, but Pergatory is close enough.  Wink



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User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3441 times:

What's a D83? And I was just giving you a hard time Goldenshield. No hard feelings. I'm already going to hell so I can't be too quick to criticize.

I just cant believe that you go from 727 and 737 service to no service what so ever. I cant think of many airports that are like Sioux City.


User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6014 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3439 times:



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 5):
What's a D83?

I believe it's the Dornier 328 turboprop.

Oh, and none taken.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3432 times:



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 1):
At one time, they had service with a DC-10. Didn't turnout very well, though.

::slow clap:: Wow..  laughing 



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User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Trip down memory lane:

I also remember as a kid that UA also had FOD, SPW, and OTM. Wow, how much have the times changed. And Great Lakes Airlines was based on SPW...


User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

We flew DEN-LNK-SUX. It was one of many tag-on flights out of DEN.

User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3338 times:



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 8):
I also remember as a kid that UA also had FOD, SPW, and OTM. Wow, how much have the times changed. And Great Lakes Airlines was based on SPW...

Well it wasnt UA itself but Great Lakes.

FL also served SUX I think with 737s. Later AP flew SUX-DEN with CVRs

At one time SUX had UA, FL and OZ/TW


User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3260 times:
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Also America West flew into SUX.


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3229 times:



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 11):
Also America West flew into SUX.

thats; right i forgot


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3191 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 10):
At one time SUX had UA, FL and OZ/TW

I believe NC (North Central) flew into SUX as well.



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User currently offlineSkyGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3075 times:



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 1):
At one time, they had service with a DC-10. Didn't turnout very well, though.

I'm riding in the passenger seat on the bus to hell, cause I clicked on this thread in anticipation of a response like this.

To me, SUX doesn't seem like it would be that huge of a market. I just don't see people jumping up and down to go there. Course, I don't really see people wanting to go to chicago either, but they do...



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User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

UA flew 727's and 737's from both DEN and ORD to SUX. By that time, OZ only served SUX from STL. Originally, SUX was served by BN (Mid Continent). NC came along, and then OZ replaced BN on the ORD-DBQ-ALO-MCW-SUX route, but BN remained OMA-SUX-FSD-MSP. BN's last service to SUX was in the 1966-67 period and they flew the Convair 340, BAC-111, and Electra into SUX toward the end. By 1968, NC replaced BN on the nonstops to MKC and MSP. Ozark discontinued service to Chicago in the early 80's era after deregulation, when they dropped most of their ORD service and developed their STL hub. UA then entered SUX from both ORD and DEN. (OZ began their service to DEN from SUX and FSD with DC-9's in the late 60's, and shifted all DEN flights to STL in the late 70's or early 80's. At the time of the DC-10 crash (summer of 1989), I believe UA mainline still served SUX but it was toward the end of the mainline service, United's traditional pre-deg service cities in Iowa were CID and DSM where they dominated. They pulled out of Iowa City in 1959. Those were UA's only three Iowa points until deregulation, and the only other city ever to get mainline service was SUX. The Iowa Quad Cities of Davenport and Bettendorf were served through MLI, and mainline service from MLI to ORD was discontinued in 1980 after 54 years of service. Mainline service to DEN lasted until 1993. While CID had UA mainline service through the 90's, with several switches to ZW and other Express carriers, and then returns to mainline service, which is gone now, MLI has been all Express since 1993. .

User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2900 times:



Quoting Milesrich (Reply 15):
UA flew 727's and 737's from both DEN and ORD to SUX. By that time, OZ only served SUX from STL. Originally, SUX was served by BN (Mid Continent). NC came along, and then OZ replaced BN on the ORD-DBQ-ALO-MCW-SUX route, but BN remained OMA-SUX-FSD-MSP. BN's last service to SUX was in the 1966-67 period and they flew the Convair 340, BAC-111, and Electra into SUX toward the end. By 1968, NC replaced BN on the nonstops to MKC and MSP. Ozark discontinued service to Chicago in the early 80's era after deregulation, when they dropped most of their ORD service and developed their STL hub. UA then entered SUX from both ORD and DEN. (OZ began their service to DEN from SUX and FSD with DC-9's in the late 60's, and shifted all DEN flights to STL in the late 70's or early 80's. At the time of the DC-10 crash (summer of 1989), I believe UA mainline still served SUX but it was toward the end of the mainline service, United's traditional pre-deg service cities in Iowa were CID and DSM where they dominated. They pulled out of Iowa City in 1959. Those were UA's only three Iowa points until deregulation, and the only other city ever to get mainline service was SUX. The Iowa Quad Cities of Davenport and Bettendorf were served through MLI, and mainline service from MLI to ORD was discontinued in 1980 after 54 years of service. Mainline service to DEN lasted until 1993. While CID had UA mainline service through the 90's, with several switches to ZW and other Express carriers, and then returns to mainline service, which is gone now, MLI has been all Express since 1993. .

Thank You very much for the reply, I really appreciate it!


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6819 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Far as I can see UA never had nonstops DEN-SUX (which OZ did), but they did have a nonstop to ORD for a year or less in 1987-88. That was probably their only direct flight to ORD.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15735 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

SUX has always seemed to be underserved. Probably because they are fairly close to Omaha.


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User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Yeah, its quiet funny. DBQ which is on the other side of Iowa and on the Mississippi River is over 1/2 the size of SUX yet DBQ has DL and AA. Reason: SUX is going up against OMA for competition and DBQ is going up against CID and ALO. Hmmm, who has Southwest Airlines, oh right, Omaha.

User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2785 times:



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 19):
Yeah, its quiet funny. DBQ which is on the other side of Iowa and on the Mississippi River is over 1/2 the size of SUX yet DBQ has DL and AA. Reason: SUX is going up against OMA for competition and DBQ is going up against CID and ALO. Hmmm, who has Southwest Airlines, oh right, Omaha.

Oh and to clarify SUX is served by only Northwest after Frontier pulled out last summer. If memory serves me right, SUX usually has 3 Saabs and 1 CRJ a day...

SUX should have a UA flight to DEN or ORD, I don't see how that couldn't work out for them...


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15735 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2760 times:



Quoting Evanbu (Reply 19):
Hmmm, who has Southwest Airlines, oh right, Omaha.

People will drive quite a ways to fly on WN. See the thread about Southwest and SGF.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

People drive from all over the places for WN. People also drive to get to Allegiant. I believe that if it wasn't for FSD, SUX would have flights to LAS via Allegiant.

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