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First Flight A333 Swiss  
User currently offlineMikemalone From Switzerland, joined Dec 2008, 7 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15142 times:

The first flight of HB-JHA is planned today in TLS, expect to see some pictures around soon...

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User currently offlineSandroZRH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15154 times:

Can't wait, I hope the TLS spotters have their cameras ready Big grin

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10001 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15073 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 1):
Can't wait, I hope the TLS spotters have their cameras ready

My bets are on photographer French Frogs!!!! Big grin I always enjoy the nice photos of french frog  Smile

A388


User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 14370 times:

Surprised to see that as line number 1000, the plane is painted in the standard Swiss colors with nothing additonal noted (at least yet)...It's on another site

JSD



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12882 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13605 times:
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Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 3):
Surprised to see that as line number 1000, the plane is painted in the standard Swiss colors with nothing additonal noted (at least yet)...It's on another site

Although it's line number 1,000, it certainly isn't the 1,000th A330/340 off the line. A number of production slots have not been built. This was discussed in one of the A330/340 discussion threads here.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7000 posts, RR: 63
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13304 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
A number of production slots have not been built.

Eighteen so far. So the 1,000th A330/A340 will be #1,018 which is ... an A330-300 for Swiss!! Big grin


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13033 times:



Quoting PM (Reply 5):
Eighteen so far. So the 1,000th A330/A340 will be #1,018 which is ... an A330-300 for Swiss!! Big grin

Wow, that's hilarious! Not only do they get ln 1,000, they also get the 1,000th a330/a340! That's gotta be worth a celebration!

So who will get the 1,000th a330? I guess it's too early to be sure?



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7000 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13016 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 6):
I guess it's too early to be sure?

It's way too early to even make a half-hearted guess!  Big grin


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11627 times:

When will the first A333 be delivered to ZRH probably around one week before it inaugual flight to JFK on April 20th?

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11544 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 1):
Can't wait, I hope the TLS spotters have their cameras ready Big grin

I really do believe so. Big grin

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 3):
Surprised to see that as line number 1000

I noticed that also!  Smile

Fatmir



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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 11444 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
Although it's line number 1,000, it certainly isn't the 1,000th A330/340 off the line. A number of production slots have not been built.

Indeed, you are correct about this. The difference between this family (A330/340) and the A320 family that previously celebrated the 1000th by placing 998, 999, "1000th" logos on an AF A320 and 999, 1000, "1001st" on a UA example, etc. is that the A320s didn't skip a line number on the way to 1000. The first A330/A340 slot not built was line number 124 which was an A340-300 originally for Air France.

JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineN707PA From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11374 times:

So why is Swiss changing from the A332 to A333? Are they adding capacity?

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11304 times:



Quoting N707PA (Reply 11):
So why is Swiss changing from the A332 to A333? Are they adding capacity?

They want to have three classes on all long-haul aircrafts. The 332 became too small for them.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10951 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 12):
They want to have three classes on all long-haul aircrafts. The 332 became too small for them.

As there will be 8 more seats in the A333 compared to the A343 is there some extra space as the A333's will probably not have a crew rest facility?


User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10627 times:



Quoting LXA340 (Reply 13):
As there will be 8 more seats in the A333 compared to the A343 is there some extra space as the A333's will probably not have a crew rest facility?

Is there a seat map for the 333 available already ?


User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10482 times:



Quoting TreeHillRavens (Reply 14):
Is there a seat map for the 333 available already ?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/swiss...nfiguration-20apr09-inaugural.html

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200.../swiss-a330-300-configuration.html

Fatmir



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User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10410 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 15):

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/swiss...nfiguration-20apr09-inaugural.html

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200.../swiss-a330-300-configuration.html

Fatmir

Oh ... i meant an actual map for the LX 333 but this will do too. Thanks mate !!


User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10403 times:



Quoting TreeHillRavens (Reply 16):
Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 15):

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/swiss...nfiguration-20apr09-inaugural.html

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200.../swiss-a330-300-configuration.html

Fatmir

Oh ... i meant an actual map for the LX 333 but this will do too. Thanks mate !!

I don't if there's around were any available seat map for LX A333.

Regards,
Fatmir



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User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 662 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9732 times:

And she finally flies:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/christophe-ramos/3380449382/sizes/o/

Enjoy,
KA.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7000 posts, RR: 63
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9682 times:



Quoting Ka (Reply 18):
Enjoy

I am!

Well, I've had 17 flights on LX A332s. I'm looking forward to my first on an A333!  bouncy 


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3059 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9613 times:



Quoting PM (Reply 19):
I am!

The right plane; the right engines  cloudnine 



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User currently offlineEnginebird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9507 times:



Quoting PM (Reply 19):
Well, I've had 17 flights on LX A332s.

I like LX and I like the A330, but don't you think that the seating (in economy) is rather cramped? I will be on an LX A332 BOS-ZRH in two weeks and already feel the pain in my legs (I am 6-4).


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7000 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9475 times:



Quoting Enginebird (Reply 21):
(I am 6-4).

I'm 5-7!  Big grin

Quoting Enginebird (Reply 21):
don't you think that the seating (in economy) is rather cramped?

To be honest, I haven't been on an LX A330 for almost four years and I was lucky enough to make most of my flights in Business but I can't recall Economy being bad. Well, Economy is always "bad" but I can't recall LX being any worse than most.


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1721 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9299 times:



Quoting Enginebird (Reply 21):
I will be on an LX A332 BOS-ZRH in two weeks and already feel the pain in my legs (I am 6-4).

Well, The BOS-ZRH run is also regularly operated with a LH 340-300.
Last Sunday March 15th there was also a LH 343 at the gate in ZRH for the BOS run.



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9266 times:



Quoting Enginebird (Reply 21):
I like LX and I like the A330, but don't you think that the seating (in economy) is rather cramped? I will be on an LX A332 BOS-ZRH in two weeks and already feel the pain in my legs (I am 6-4)



Quoting PM (Reply 22):
To be honest, I haven't been on an LX A330 for almost four years and I was lucky enough to make most of my flights in Business but I can't recall Economy being bad. Well, Economy is always "bad" but I can't recall LX being any worse than most.

I agree it is cramped. But I have also flown many other so called premium airlines (LH, AF, BA, AA, DL, SQ, QF, MH and others) and did not find one which isn't cramped in economy. All about the same sardine cans.
In the good old days  Wink when I was a boy and flew with my parents to JNB Swissair had only a 2-4-2 seating in their DC 10s economy class and plenty of legroom. Later they changed to 9 abreast in the DC 10 and MD 11 (2-4-3).

BTW the new SWISS business looks good.


25 SandroZRH : Great looking bird! I still have to get used to those rollers though, I still think the pratts look better on the A330. I certainly hope that this wil
26 SXDFC : This Swiss A333 is by far the most beautiful A333 around, I always thought the LH A333 was beautiful, but there's just something about this one that I
27 Kimberlyrj : According to Swiss they are directly replacing the A332... Kimberly RJ
28 SandroZRH : The first aircraft will be deployed on LX's ZRH-JFK run. No further routes have been announced yet that i'm aware of.
29 Post contains links Poh2 : confirmed today, officially by LX: first flight on April 20 to JFK http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20090323.aspx
30 Poh2 : On a second read of the press release, they state the following regarding the Economy class: "and the Economy Class cabin is also totally new, and boa
31 SandroZRH : On my birthday I'm also very interested. I'm especially interested in their new IFE system. Will it be the same that they'll be using in J and F?
32 ZRH : I am also looking forward to see this system. The only thing we know for sure that is must be AVOD which is state of the art.
33 SXDFC : So I guess in that case we wont see any A332 upgrades?......
34 Mikemalone : Yes, there is... but I only have it as PDF file, same goes for actual cabin pictures of HB-JHA. If somebody is interested, please let me know. Some m
35 MaverickM11 : I may have missed this but why is that? I'd assume it'd be better to replace as many 343s as possible first?
36 Enginebird : Unfortunately the system shows an A330-200 for LX 53 on April 20. Too bad I will have to fly on one of their aging A332s before they will be retired.
37 A388 : So am I!!! A388
38 TreeHillRavens : If MH economy is cramped then it must be a flying hell for those travelling in most carriers economy class. MH is one of the very few carriers that s
39 ManchesterMAN : The A340 is the flagship of the LX long haul fleet and it is going nowhere. The A340 cabin will get refitted starting end of this year with the same
40 ZRH : As already said the 15 A 343 will stay and will be refurbished with a new cabin. SWISS needs them for the "long" long-hauls like LAX, GRU, NRT, PVG,
41 Autothrust : Damn, what a beauty almost perfect, the only detail; its not a A332. I always enjoyed flights on A330's. So quiet and nice. Hope to get someday on one
42 LXA340 : Is it possible for SRTechniques now to also full service the RR engines. Because I remember that EDW always had to ourtsource maintanance for it's en
43 SandroZRH : No, SRT doesn't have an RR engine shop. LX will have to ferry their engines to the UK for maintenance. The first A343 to receive the new cabin will v
44 SXDFC : Its actually possible to convert the old airbus cabin into the new one? You defiantly learn something new every day on this site!
45 YULWinterSkies : So what's going on then with these 332s with two classes?
46 Lufthansa411 : Now I am jealous. My brother is on LX 15 on the 20, and I am sure he doesn't know or care the upgrade he is getting. Now if I could only get him to t
47 Ka : Why are you jealous? The return A333 flight should be LX17 on the 20th. They will be exchanged by new 3-class A333. No more 2-class longhaul services
48 Robffm2 : Where will the A332 go?
49 SandroZRH : Wherever the lessors will be able to place them. SU has been rumoured once.
50 CRJ900 : I'm sure SAS can use them. The A333/343s are too big, apparently, but the A332 will fit nicely and fly most SK routes. Perhaps SWISS and SAS can exch
51 Ka : Two A332 will go to VN (-IQG/QP). Phase-out from LX´ fleet is taking place this month. Seven are planned to go to SU (-IQA/C/I/J/K/O) (only two of th
52 LXA340 : COuld this be problematic when planes go tech due to engines or will always enough spare parts be around and SRT will be able to exchange engines how
53 Post contains links Lufthansa411 : Just looked at the swiss booking engine. It says Airbus A333 for LX 15 on the 20, and A332 for LX 17. LX 15 http://booking.swiss.com/web/PopupLo...F-
54 SandroZRH : I don't think SRT can do anything on RR engines other than minor line maintenance. But that was LX's choice, so they have have to figure something ou
55 Musapapaya : Is it possible they get LH Technics to look after it? Well LX is part of the LH group now, should they not consolidate their maintanence too? regards
56 SandroZRH : And why fly all their aircraft to FRA if they can get maintenance at their homebase by one of the world's leading maintenance companies at a better p
57 Musapapaya : I know I know, but a previous post said that LX has to ferry their A-333 to the UK to fix it. If they fly it to the UK, then I would say fly it to FR
58 Ka : If you look at it from the other side it is SRT´s problem: not having the contract for the engine-jobs on LX´ A333 meaning less work and less incom
59 SandroZRH : Ah I see. No, the plan is to actually truck the Engines to be overhauled to an RR plant in the UK, I think this was part of the deal when they electe
60 Musapapaya : No problem my friend! But it seems that my suggestion will be cheaper, and more importantly the money stays within the group. We shall see whats gonn
61 Mikemalone : The A343 will NOT get a new Entertainment system and only new seats in C-class.
62 Knightsofmalta : LH only send their A340s to SR Technic when Lufthansa Technik hasn't got enough capacity to do the job.
63 SandroZRH : No kidding. But still, they send it over here instead of some cheap place in Asia.
64 GLEN : SRT was in a group with Swissair (SAirGroup). But since then SRT is owned by others. From this point Swiss and SRT have nothing together as company.
65 GLEN : Sorry, I didn't read all the previous posts quite carefully. So I didn't check you to referring the overhaul with LH as staying in the group
66 LXA340 : This doesn't make sense, now LX will again have a product inconsistency. This is not a good move at all if LX will not instal their new First Class p
67 SandroZRH : Yes, absolutely ridiculous. This makes so little sense that i can hardly believe it. I guess I'll have to talk to some people, I really don't get it.
68 LXA340 : This whole story about the refit of the A343's slowly seems to sound to me simmilar when in 2003 the question of the refit of the A332's began. First
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