BNE/LAX is not really daily. QF regulary cancel 1 flight a week, but like to still the impression that it is daily by often putting it in CRS's as daily. When they cancel a flight they try to send passengers via SYD which is never a very popular option.
Feel QF should be upfront about it & not put in schedules that they operate daily, if it's highly likely flights will be canc due to load factors.
With VA starting nonstop BNE/LAX 8APR, it's going to be interesting how many BNE/LAX's QF cencel due to load factors & yield & how much notice they give pax who are booked on a flight, which gets cancelled.
VA could make a point of saying, something to the effect ...
OUR FLIGHTS WILL OPERATE & WE WON'T TRY & SEND YOU VIA SYD, which would be a huge selling point.
It was temporarily for several months due to the delays in QF getting its A380s and due to the 744 fleet getting refitted.
Now that QF has 3xA380, the 744s have mostly been fitted out and there some flights have been cancelled, there are spare aircraft so MEL-AKL-LAX has returned to being a 744.
From July however this will change as the MEL-AKL leg will not be flown by 744 but by multiple 737s (733/4 initially followed later by 738s). AKL-LAX will however still be operated by 744 with the aircraft rotating down to BNE.
REALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2496 times:
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8): From July however this will change as the MEL-AKL leg will not be flown by 744 but by multiple 737s (733/4 initially followed later by 738s). AKL-LAX will however still be operated by 744 with the aircraft rotating down to BNE.
yeh over 3 hours at AKL on QF25 MEL/AKL/LAX !!!
Don't think many will want to do that & with only a 733/4 on MEL/AKL don't think there willbe many ff seats either (QF25 via AKL when operated by a 744, was almost always the only MEL/LAX flight to have cheap or ff seats).
Also wouldn't the QF25 MEL/AKL 0600/1130 be popular with business types, who could still get in a meeting or 2 in the pm in AKL?
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5463 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 12 hours ago) and read 2192 times:
Quoting Planetime (Reply 11): When do they plan on getting enough 380 to make it daily ... if they do plan to?
If QF get 4 A380 in 2009, as scheduled, they will have 7 by the end of 2009, which is enough to make one daily SYD-LAX, one daily MEL-LAX and one daily SYD-SIN-LHR, provided they don't put them on any other routes during 2009.
SYD-LAX has been 2 daily and a third on some days of the week, for quite some years. With the A380 and traffic down turn it's now twice daily, one A380 on 11/12 (3 days a week, B744 other days) and one B744 (usually ER) on 107/108. I expect, (don't know), them to make SYD-LAX daily when number 4 arrives.
REALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 16): So both Qantas and JetStar fly the HNL-SYD route? Any chance that Hawaiian may wish to add HNL-MEL or HNL-BNE given the new air service agreement between US and Australia?
If HA has any sense they won't touch these routes until the dust settles in a year or 2. Too many carriers now fighting over too few pax to mainland USA (LAX),
QF, UA, VA, DL (nonstops) + NZ, FJ, TN.
Hasn't been a HNL/BNE since Canada 3000 & HNL/MEL was flown for a short time one northern winter 4 or 5 years ago think it was.
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5463 posts, RR: 6 Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1542 times:
Quoting Planetime (Reply 18): Any chance of QF 106/107 becoming a 380 or will it stay a 744 for quite some time?
My guess is it will be among the last flights from SYD/MEL to North America to convert to A380 (SFO may go 787/350 instead). There are many factors and if anyone outside the QF/AA/BA route planning departments really knows I'd be very surprised, and they are probably a little vague about it right now.
If number 7 arrives this year, that leaves 13 to come over the following 3-4 years (assuming the current delivery schedule holds), how soon 107/108 gets one depends, of course on traffic levels, but also on priorities, do QF give priority to the Kangaroo Route for A380s or the Southern Cross route? Are there other potential A380 routes out there? (Dare I say---DFW!) They could even (long shot) reroute the JFK flight via DFW.