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User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

Hi,

Was out a little bit and want to get caught up with the amount of flights between US and Australia. To my understanding there is and will be:
QF:

1 X daily SYD - LAX A380
1 X daily SYD - LAX - JFK 744
1 X daily MEL- LAX A380
1 X daily MEL - AKL - LAX 744
1 X daily BNE - LAX 744

and other flights from QF? Is the 380 daily for LAX or if not when will they be so?

UA

1 X daily SYD - LAX 744
1 X daily SYD - SFO 744

What will the flights of DL and VA be? Will they be daily and from what cities do they fly from? Just from SYD or to other cities? I know DL is yet to fly until July.

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8453 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3948 times:
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Delta is a daily 777LR from LAX to SYD. V Australia is currently a daily 777-300ER from LAX to SYD and soon LAX to Brisbane and Melbourne 3 times weekly.

User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3730 times:



Quoting Planetime (Thread starter):
and other flights from QF?

QF 73/74 flies out of SFO.



John@SFO
User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2939 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

UA:
MEL-SYD-LAX/SFO

CO:
GUM-CNS


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7613 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3674 times:



Quoting Planetime (Thread starter):
1 X daily MEL - AKL - LAX 744

I thought this was now an A332 flight.

Quoting Planetime (Thread starter):
UA

1 X daily SYD - LAX 744
1 X daily SYD - SFO 744

I understand UA is going to use a 777-200ER for a while.



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User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3617 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 2):
QF 73/74 flies out of SFO.

That is 5x weekly, not daily if I remember correctly.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
I understand UA is going to use a 777-200ER for a while.

Wow going to a 777 for both routes?

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 3):
CO:
GUM-CNS

Good catch ... always forget that GUM is part of the US.


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

I beleive this is what is planned.

Qantas

SYD-LAX 1 x daily 744
SYD-LAX 1 x daily A380 (currently 744 some days)
MEL-LAX 1 x daily A380 (currently mostly 744)
BNE-LAX 1 x daily 744
SYD-SFO 5 x weekly 744
SYD-HNL 3 x weekly 767

Jetstar
SYD-HNL 4 x weekly 332

Hawaiian
SYD-HNL 3 x weekly 767

Continental
CNS-GUM 4 x weekly 738

United
SYD-SFO 1 x Daily 744
MEL-SYD-LAX 1 x Daily 744

Delta

SYD-LAX 1 x Daily 77L

V Australia

SYD-LAX 1 x daily 77W
MEL-LAX 3 x weekly 77W
BNE-LAX 3 x weekly 77W

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
I understand UA is going to use a 777-200ER for a while.

Not anymore.


User currently offlineREALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3447 times:



Quoting ANstar (Reply 6):
BNE-LAX 1 x daily 744

BNE/LAX is not really daily. QF regulary cancel 1 flight a week, but like to still the impression that it is daily by often putting it in CRS's as daily. When they cancel a flight they try to send passengers via SYD which is never a very popular option.

Feel QF should be upfront about it & not put in schedules that they operate daily, if it's highly likely flights will be canc due to load factors.

With VA starting nonstop BNE/LAX 8APR, it's going to be interesting how many BNE/LAX's QF cencel due to load factors & yield & how much notice they give pax who are booked on a flight, which gets cancelled.

VA could make a point of saying, something to the effect ...

OUR FLIGHTS WILL OPERATE & WE WON'T TRY & SEND YOU VIA SYD, which would be a huge selling point.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4841 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3140 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):

Quoting Planetime (Thread starter):
1 X daily MEL - AKL - LAX 744

I thought this was now an A332 flight.

It was temporarily for several months due to the delays in QF getting its A380s and due to the 744 fleet getting refitted.
Now that QF has 3xA380, the 744s have mostly been fitted out and there some flights have been cancelled, there are spare aircraft so MEL-AKL-LAX has returned to being a 744.
From July however this will change as the MEL-AKL leg will not be flown by 744 but by multiple 737s (733/4 initially followed later by 738s). AKL-LAX will however still be operated by 744 with the aircraft rotating down to BNE.



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User currently offlineREALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2829 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
From July however this will change as the MEL-AKL leg will not be flown by 744 but by multiple 737s (733/4 initially followed later by 738s). AKL-LAX will however still be operated by 744 with the aircraft rotating down to BNE.

yeh over 3 hours at AKL on QF25 MEL/AKL/LAX !!!

Don't think many will want to do that & with only a 733/4 on MEL/AKL don't think there willbe many ff seats either (QF25 via AKL when operated by a 744, was almost always the only MEL/LAX flight to have cheap or ff seats).

Also wouldn't the QF25 MEL/AKL 0600/1130 be popular with business types, who could still get in a meeting or 2 in the pm in AKL?


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2779 times:



Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 9):
yeh over 3 hours at AKL on QF25 MEL/AKL/LAX !!!

Don't think many will want to do that

Precisely why they are doing I guess. I mean they have increased capacity on MEL-LAX with the A380 and VA is flying 3 x weekly later this year.

They obviously want more of the AKL-LAX market asthey can charge more for that leg than they can for MEL-LAX now.


User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2563 times:



Quoting ANstar (Reply 6):

Seems like also QF has reduced their service to LAX - SYD route. They always had 3 or 4 x weekly running also and that seems to be out of the picture.

Also when is QF planning on making both QF12/93 A380 daily? When do they plan on getting enough 380 to make it daily ... if they do plan to?


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5760 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2525 times:



Quoting Planetime (Reply 11):
When do they plan on getting enough 380 to make it daily ... if they do plan to?

If QF get 4 A380 in 2009, as scheduled, they will have 7 by the end of 2009, which is enough to make one daily SYD-LAX, one daily MEL-LAX and one daily SYD-SIN-LHR, provided they don't put them on any other routes during 2009.

SYD-LAX has been 2 daily and a third on some days of the week, for quite some years. With the A380 and traffic down turn it's now twice daily, one A380 on 11/12 (3 days a week, B744 other days) and one B744 (usually ER) on 107/108. I expect, (don't know), them to make SYD-LAX daily when number 4 arrives.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2348 times:



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 12):
I expect, (don't know), them to make SYD-LAX daily when number 4 arrives.

QF announced from June when no 4 arrives that they will add an extra weekly on SYD-LAX and 2 more weekly on SYD-SIN-LHR.


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5760 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2316 times:



Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 13):
QF announced from June when no 4 arrives that they will add an extra weekly on SYD-LAX and 2 more weekly on SYD-SIN-LHR.

Got a link?

So that will basically be 2 aircraft on SYD/MEL-LAX & 2 on SYD-SIN-LHR?

Gemuser



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn.../details?ArticleID=2009/feb09/3884

Quoting Gemuser (Reply 14):
So that will basically be 2 aircraft on SYD/MEL-LAX & 2 on SYD-SIN-LHR?

Basically yes!

I guess once they have 7 aircraft they will probably operate SYD-LAX and SYD-SIN-LHR Daily with maybe MEL-LAX 5 weekly to allow a bit of downtime.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2897 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2228 times:



Quoting ANstar (Reply 6):

So both Qantas and JetStar fly the HNL-SYD route? Any chance that Hawaiian may wish to add HNL-MEL or HNL-BNE given the new air service agreement between US and Australia?



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User currently offlineREALDEAL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2155 times:



Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 16):
So both Qantas and JetStar fly the HNL-SYD route? Any chance that Hawaiian may wish to add HNL-MEL or HNL-BNE given the new air service agreement between US and Australia?

If HA has any sense they won't touch these routes until the dust settles in a year or 2. Too many carriers now fighting over too few pax to mainland USA (LAX),

QF, UA, VA, DL (nonstops) + NZ, FJ, TN.

Hasn't been a HNL/BNE since Canada 3000 & HNL/MEL was flown for a short time one northern winter 4 or 5 years ago think it was.


User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2030 times:



Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 17):
Too many carriers now fighting over too few pax to mainland USA (LAX),

Well also you might say before there was no real competition. Now at least some decent carriers and choices.

Any chance of QF 106/107 becoming a 380 or will it stay a 744 for quite some time?

Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 17):



If HA has any sense they won't touch these routes until the dust settles in a year or 2.

Probably they are waiting for their new 330's and later on the 350's to come along.


User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1402 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1998 times:



Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 17):
HNL/MEL was flown for a short time one northern winter 4 or 5 years ago think it was.

Would that have been the short lived AC YYZ-HNL-MEL service?


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3335 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1909 times:



Quoting REALDEAL (Reply 17):
HNL/MEL was flown for a short time one northern winter 4 or 5 years ago think it was.



Quoting 9252fly (Reply 19):
Would that have been the short lived AC YYZ-HNL-MEL service?

yes. operated Nov 2001 to Aug 2002.
victim of september 11 and the aviation downturn.
operated 3pw B767 as a scissor hub over HNL.
pax on YVR-HNL-SYD could connect onto YYZ-HNL-MEL and v.v.


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5760 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1875 times:



Quoting Planetime (Reply 18):
Any chance of QF 106/107 becoming a 380 or will it stay a 744 for quite some time?

My guess is it will be among the last flights from SYD/MEL to North America to convert to A380 (SFO may go 787/350 instead). There are many factors and if anyone outside the QF/AA/BA route planning departments really knows I'd be very surprised, and they are probably a little vague about it right now.

If number 7 arrives this year, that leaves 13 to come over the following 3-4 years (assuming the current delivery schedule holds), how soon 107/108 gets one depends, of course on traffic levels, but also on priorities, do QF give priority to the Kangaroo Route for A380s or the Southern Cross route? Are there other potential A380 routes out there? (Dare I say---DFW!) They could even (long shot) reroute the JFK flight via DFW.

My $A0.02 worth

Gemuser



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