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History Of CO/AF Code Share  
User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1599 times:

This isn't a post about the Concorde crash and the Continental DC10, so if please don't post if that is
what you are going to talk about.

My question is about the CO/AF code share? When
did it start and what was the purpose behind it and
why did AF eventually choose DL over CO, while still
maintaining the CO code share?

ContinentalEWR

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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Code share started about 3-4 years ago, can't totally remember clearly, and as far as the Delta issue, Air France just felt that Delta was a better known brand internationally

Jer


User currently offlineBen88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

It's not because they were better known, it was because they served many more destinations.

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

CO would have been the better choice for a parntner. DL's service is just not up to AF's expectations. You get wined and dined on Air France. Delta just can't compete with that.

User currently offlineIshky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Even though Air France is slowly in the process of dumping Continental for Delta, their current alliance w/ CO is still very strong. While flying Newark-Paris on the brand new 767-400 in November, there was a very large number of passengers transferring at Charles de Gaulle. I'm not overestimating when I say that only about half of the people on board were terminating in Paris. People were going on to destinations like Oslo, Suttgart, and Berlin. On the way back, it was an Air France 747-200, which just didn't compare to the Continental flight. Alot of people on that flight were transferring in Newark, too, to places like Florida and Denver. All I can say is that Air France probably will not have a problem switching partners over to Delta. Continental, on the other hand, is in a little bit of a frenzy, but with that so-called "European Expansion" coming up, maybe it won't be so bad.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

I think Delta's route network was the key to this decision. Delta is after all, the third biggest US
airline, with a behemoth hub in ATL and similarly
comprehensive, albeit smaller ones in CVG and
MCO (DFW is comparatively smaller and SLC is
not a European gateway at the moment).

However, AF benefits heavily from CO's feed
both at IAH and EWR and I think this secondary
partnership will continue for some time as it adds
value to both carriers.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Don't forget, the CO/AF alliance gives CO and AF a monopoly in the EWR/IAH-CDG markets. If I want to fly nonstop from IAH to CDG, I only have one option.

User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

ContinentalEWR:
I think you're right. If AF has its way, they will keep CO as a "secondary" partner. However, DL may very well pressure AF to dump CO. Also, I believe some time after the SkyTeam alliance was officially launced, CO filed paperwork to break their contract with AF (probably in the range of a 10 year contact) because of AF's ever closer ties to DL.


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