Aviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 3 Posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10238 times:
flydubai announced it is on schedule to launch services in Jun-09
flydubai has recruited 61 captains and 18 first officers, as well as 80 cabin crew. Flydubai confirmed that they are on schedule to launch services in Jun-09.
The 737's will be configured with 189 economy class seats and they will operate from Terminal 2 at Dubai International Airport.
Alianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9997 times:
The FlyDubai website does not list routes. It does suggest they might fly into southeast Europe. Any information on which destinations they might be considering there? Athens, maybe?
Aviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9916 times:
Quoting Alianza (Reply 1): The FlyDubai website does not list routes. It does suggest they might fly into southeast Europe.
Flydubai has already announced that the routes will include destinations within 4.5 hours flying time of Dubai. Its anybody's guess that the network will cover:
1. Indian Sub-continent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, probably Sri Lanka)
2. Entire Middle-east
3. Norther Africa (Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria)
4. Parts of Europe
AT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 863 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 9666 times:
Quoting Kleinsim (Reply 4):
Hasn't it already been announced that the first routes will be to India and Pakistan? I forgot the exact destinations though...
AT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 863 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 9645 times:
i just checked out their website. If you look at their pictures, they include just about every nationality except that of the Emirates. Bad image, if you ask me, especially since i't's going to be a more regional airline to begin with.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10694 posts, RR: 100 Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 9636 times:
Quoting Colts001 (Reply 5): There were news sometime back that India will be the launch country with 5 destinations Pune (PNQ), Amritsar (ATQ), Goa (GOI), Jaipur (JAI) & Chandigarh (IXC).
From what I've read, Goa (GOI), and Jaipur (JAI) are two obvious destinations.
As to Pune, how many daily rights does FlyDubai have? I would have thought, due to the shared military/commercial airport nature, that this would have been a logical expansion for EK.
I'm a bit confussed on FlyDubai's bilateral rights. How do they not 'water down' EK's rights? Obviously any flights to countries with a Dubai 'open skies' agreement are moot, but last I looked, rights to India were pretty restrictive. Any links would be appreciated.
Swallow From Uganda, joined Jul 2007, 544 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9474 times:
Quoting Aviationbuff (Thread starter): flydubai has recruited 61 captains and 18 first officers, as well as 80 cabin crew
Curious ratio of captains to first officers; over 3:1. Obviously they are still recruiting, but is it interesting that they have 61 captains and 80 FAs. They may initially have lots of captains in the right hand seat
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10694 posts, RR: 100 Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9444 times:
Quoting Swallow (Reply 11): Obviously they are still recruiting, but is it interesting that they have 61 captains and 80 FAs. They may initially have lots of captains in the right hand seat
Obviously they focused on hiring captains. Nothing wrong with paying for a Captain to sit in the right seat. But for f/a's... 80 is only enough to fly three 738's! (I assume: 4 F/A per flight, 7 crews per airframe for year round coverage). Now, it is much quicker to train f/a's and copilots. So I imagine they'll ramp up quick.
Directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1569 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9278 times:
Shame it's going to start operations from T2-it's a hassle and apparently it takes longer to get to T2 than it is to go to T1 or T3.
Aside from the usual batch of India flights, I expect them to add ALY, BEY and DAM as well. These routes seem to do well for Jazeera, Bahrain Air and Air Arabia.
YXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7726 times:
That paint scheme looks great!
The larger ratio of captains to FO's is a good idea in my own opinion. It can be costly but for a start up carrier it can mean the difference a lot of days. Having more experience on deck and on the ground can make life easier through the steep learning curves.
FRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7236 times:
Quoting BW424 (Reply 14):
Quoting FlyPBA (Reply 9):
here is their first 737 at Renton
That 738 looks real sweet!!
Quoting GF777 (Reply 16): I wonder where they will launch to and where they would fly to in Europe?
Are 738s the only aircraft that flydubai will get? If not, what others will they get? I was thinking that London is an obvious choice in Europe, but they would need longer range aircraft no? 787s? A330s? Maybe a few destinations around the Mediterranean region?
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Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10694 posts, RR: 100 Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6304 times:
I think its the common mistake of not realizing FlyDubai is a separate airline under the same ownership. It will have a very different flight pattern than EK. What is FlyDubai's two letter code anyway?
FRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2316 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6178 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 22): What is FlyDubai's two letter code anyway?
I'm not sure, but when I looked up the airline on wikipedia, there were blanks under the IATA, ICAO and call sign tabs. So maybe they haven't been created yet? (I know many people talk crap about wikipedia, but it is quite accurate the vast majority of the time. When a current event happens, wikipedia is updated almost immediately.)
0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 836 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6142 times:
Hopefully Mr. Ken Gile will run FlyDubai a little better than he ran SkyBus.
"The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams."
25 SQ_EK_freak: From rumors I've heard around Dubai is that FlyDubai will primarily be doing Eastern Europe jaunts that EK don't currently serve. Thus far I haven't
27 Inbound: It's a low cost, regional airline. I doubt it's going to be anything close to EK's salary. And yes, quite a few captains will be sitting in the right
28 413x3: In this economy? If it even gets off the ground I would be surprised.
29 Kesflyer: I doubt ATH would be a route for them, however one never knows. My reasoning is that EK have just introduced a second daily to ATH, starting March 29t
30 Lightsaber: If imitation is flattery, Singapore has been extremely complimented by Dubai. I'm a little confused on FlyDubai's strategy vs. Emirates. Oh, the LCC
31 PlunaCRJ: FlyDubai´s 738s are the first 737NGs to be delivered with the updated interior, right? Regards,
32 GF777: Yes It is coming in June 2009, it is confermed
33 2707200X: Maybe Flydubai will go to the markets where Emirates Airline has left.
34 PlunaCRJ: It will be interesting to see with what kind of enhancements Boeing came up once these aircrafts are delivered, then.
35 FatmirJusufi: Absolutely. I like their logo and livery. Does anybody knows what will be their IATA and ICAO code? Fatmir
36 Acabgd: Knowing the situation in BEG, from where JU scrapped the DXB service, I reckon this might be one of the destinations. There was a lot of transit traf
37 AirIndia: Air arabia is also on that route from SHJ.
38 Cricket: Hmmm.. I wonder if they will start with the three sectors EK started with KHI, BOM and DEL. Just to keep the same sense of history. But frankly I woul
39 SQ_EK_freak: Over the years, there haven't been that many stations that EK have left - Alex/Egypt, Moroni/Comoros Islands, Ho Chi Minh City/Vietnam, Bandar Abbas/
40 GF777: I think Flydubai will operate on routes that Emirates dose now because they have to compete with the other low fare airlines in the area as Air Arabia
41 OlympicATH: Exactly what I was thinking. IMHO ATH is not gonna happen. Emirates 2 daily to DXB Air Arabia 3 weekly to SHJ Etihad 3 weekly to AUH, daily in 2010 Q
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Obviously they focused on hiring captains. Nothing wrong with paying for a Captain to sit in the right seat. But for f/a's... 80 is only enough to fly three 738's! (I assume: 4 F/A per flight, 7 crews per airframe for year round coverage). Now, it is much quicker to train f/a's and copilots. So I imagine they'll ramp up quick.
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