LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24124 posts, RR: 50 Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7924 times:
Concesionaria Vuela Compania de Aviacion, S.A. de C.V. d/b/a Volaris has applied for DOT approval to commence TLC-OAK, GDL-OAK and TLC-LAX service utilizing A319 and A320 aircraft seating from 132 to 174 passengers.
No start up dates, or frequency given except stating routes would commence "shortly after approval is received from the Department"
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7650 times:
Why LAX and not ONT?
Isn't ONT more suitable for the kind of airline Volaris is?
ONT seems to be desperate to get new service and surely could make it very attractive for Volaris to choose to fly there.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24124 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7609 times:
Yes ONT could be good for Volaris on a stand alone basis, but I suspect since they are looking for connectivity with SWA, LAX won out as SWA is quite a bit larger at LAX with more onward destinations then ONT.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3925 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7237 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4): Yes ONT could be good for Volaris on a stand alone basis, but I suspect since they are looking for connectivity with SWA, LAX won out as SWA is quite a bit larger at LAX with more onward destinations then ONT.
Thanks for the information LAXintl. I hope this works well for Volaris.
I was ask why they didn't choose SJC over OAK and it makes sense why they would pick OAK since WN has many more flights from there than they do @ SJC though I feel they would do great @ SJC with the large immigrant population in the surrounding areas.
What's Volaris service like? BOB meals? IFE of any kind?
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7511 posts, RR: 44
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6920 times:
Quoting Scutfarcus (Reply 12): Wouldn't OAK - TIJ make a lot more sense? Huge number of connections across mexico vs basically none from GDL and Toluca... though I guess those are big destinations in their own right...
Well, Volaris has a lot of destinations from both TIJ and TLC (Volaris serves about 12 cities from TLC if I am not mistaken), but I guess you are right in the sense that TIJ would be better suited for connections considering its geographic location (connection at TLC may result in some backtracking).
In any case, I am not so sure that offering connecting flights to passengers is the core of the business model of a L.C.C. like Volaris. Anyway, I am sure TLC and GDL can sustain a lot of passengers.
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5476 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6598 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 17): Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
it oughta be interesting to see what Volaris charges for Mexico City-Toluca flights
You mean LAX-TLC right? MEX and TLC are just a few miles away from each other, so there are obviously no flights between the two airports.
Yes Eddie...kinda like when I use London-Heathrow, Tokyo-Haneda, etc
I was gonna actually fly them last year from TIJ to Mexico-TLC..but after looking at the bus connectionfrom TLC to the WTC (Insurgentes Sur) plus me driving down to TIJ just to do it...it wasn't worth the hassle no matter the price.or to experience the ride. But maybe, just maybe..directly from LAX-Mexico-TLC .. just to experience Volaris, I might do it. If I don't do it, the way they are expanding I can always try them on a domestic route with Mexico!
"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2775 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6510 times:
Certainly logical additions to the Volaris network given the new WN codeshare. I imagine other important Southwest cities will soon see Volaris flights as well...SAN, PHX, LAS, MDW, MCO, TPA, and BWI seem obvious given the WN connecting opportunities. I doubt we will see any WN metal south of the border anytime soon. Can HOU receive international flights?
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
HOU master plan calls for international gate(s) and a F.I.S. in one of the new concourses. In the meanwhile, I don't know if the current terminal has room for a in-terminal F.I.S. When HOU was international, where was the F.I.S. located?
I would think if WN goes international someday soon, it'll be 1st to airports with U.S. F.I.S., and none of those is in México.
SJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4319 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6229 times:
Some months ago, TACA tried unsuccessfully to sustain flights into TA SAL-OAK as back-up for TA SAL-SFO. It wasn't yet clear the reasons for that failed movement, but probably the operational costs at OAK are cheaper than SFO.
I envisage that Volaris is aiming to OAK instead SFO for similar issues. Be in mind the business relationship between TACA and Volaris.
OAKflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6132 times:
Hope the Future OAK flights get approval. Would like to visit family and friends in TLC and GDL. I hope they are way cheaper than MX fares. Haven't flown MX since 2007. I hope Volaris does some awesome advertising in the Bay Area. I want to see a Volaris billboard near the bay bridge. I flew Volaris GDL-TIJ and loved it. I was hoping Volaris could fly OAK-TIJ. I only got to try this route on Lineas Aereas Aztecas a few years back. My flight ended up being the last flight on the route.
: Azteca wasn't the only Mexican airline that tried the route. Allegro Air tried it briefly before their demise. Would TIJ have problems getting traffi
: I remember the Allegro MD's here at OAK. At one time I thought I saw an Allegor 727. Maybe Volaris will get TIJ-OAK in the future. It would alleviate
: Before Allegro and Azteca was Taesa. Taesa flew to central Mexico to places like Leon and Zacatecas. They mainly flew 737-300's. However, there were
: I am happy to see more service to Mexico from Oakland. I recall when MX was flying their night service the airport would be crowded with families wait
: ONT is not desparate for new service. ONT is not in competition with LAX because ONT and LAX are owned by the same people, namely the City of Los Ang
: Too bad Volaris will not be taking any new birds in 2009, they had some momentum going. They were definetly expanding fast
: Ok...now I understand why people are suggesting OAK-TIJ for Volaris. Until I looked at their webpage, I didn't realize the size of their operations at
: If I am not mistaken, it is AM who flies to ONT. Not MX. Really?
: Correct. AM GDL-ONT 7x weekly with 737 and code-sharing with DL. Regards.
: Based on how the airline industry is behaving, anything can happen.
: DOT on Thursday approved Volaris application for all three routes. Lets see how soon they announce the markets.
: My guess is that Volaris will start LAX service first.
: I doubt you will ever see any flights from the US to TIJ. Any flights from OAK/SEA to TIJ would compete with similar service from OAK/SEA to SAN whic
: It's totally possible. I wasn't suggesting TIJ to be an O&D destination for Volaris, but a connection city for them. Volaris apparently offers flight
: You're probably right, Ricardo, and that may expalin the new AM frequencies ex-TLC: 19x/week TLC-GDL and 19x/week TLC-MTY. I think it is exactly the
: Volaris is a point-to-point carrier, not a hub operation. Although they fly to a lot of cities from TIJ, they only have 25 departures per day from TI
: I beg to differ. Tijuana is not poor. While it may be a crappy city and having a hard time with drug-gang-related problems, it has a sizeable populat
: Yes, and this is where Southwest and Volaris should code/share. The service could be extended to Lindbergh Field's Terminal-1 for Southwest passenger
: Undeveloped might be a better word. Tijuana is greatly dependent on San Diego for its economy and has never developed some of the hotels, shopping, u
: God!......that has got to be one the most uniformed comments I have ever read in the website.
: Ditto, Marcus, EddieDude, Adriaticus... The Mexico-USA border is a country of its own, with its own nuances and idisioncracies. And for as aesthetica
: We're talking about 2 different things here: the WN/Y4 code-share agreement and about local traffic from OAK and LAX to Mexico. Regarding the code-sha
: Sorry, but I have lived in San Diego all my life, been to Tijuana many times and flown out of TIJ several times on aircraft filled with American tour
: According to Gary Kelly, WN has no say whatsoever about the U.S. cities Y4 applied for. Here's the relevant excerpt from a rather lengthy interview w
: I have lived in TIJ for the 33 years of my life and while there have always been US tourists on board each and every single flight I have taken out o
: Hey, thanks for that quote, Mike. I obviously wondered about the situation; I'm very curious to see how this all develops. He does bring up a very go
: SANFan: I live in the Bay Area and fly into SAN on my way to Eastern Tijuana to see my cousins. I go there 6-8 times a year. I guess a lot of people h
: Welcome to A.net, 'flyer! Thanks for your input. IF OAK-TIJ happens, I'll be curious to hear from you about how it is. I can almost guarantee that th
: It's not like OAK-TIJ has never been done. Both Azteca and Allegro used to fly the OAK-TIJ route before their demise. If it is O&D or through traffic,
: Whatever happened to Aviacsa? Are they still flying to LAX or did they pull their 73S/733s out? Is Volaris like Mexico's version of JetBlue? Will we e
: I do realize there have been attempts at it before but why haven't other cx taken the route up? AM? MX? (Especially AM since we know how they like to
: You're probably right. Back in the late 1980's, I flew on AM on the LAX-TIJ route on a DC-9-30. I think there was a whopping 8 passengers on the airc
: Aviacsa ended LAX service much to the pleasure of MX back in February 2008. They publicly announced plans for GDL-LAX but not much came of that eithe