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Volaris Applies For LAX & OAK  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25436 posts, RR: 49
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8108 times:

Concesionaria Vuela Compania de Aviacion, S.A. de C.V. d/b/a Volaris has applied for DOT approval to commence TLC-OAK, GDL-OAK and TLC-LAX service utilizing A319 and A320 aircraft seating from 132 to 174 passengers.

No start up dates, or frequency given except stating routes would commence "shortly after approval is received from the Department"

OST-2009-0071


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7979 times:
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That would be very good for OAK. They've had some bad times in the last year or so.

User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7834 times:

Why LAX and not ONT?
Isn't ONT more suitable for the kind of airline Volaris is?
ONT seems to be desperate to get new service and surely could make it very attractive for Volaris to choose to fly there.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineMayaviaERJ190 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 312 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7825 times:

Ha, ha, ha! AMConnect's and MXClick's & Link's new domestic destinations (by the dozen) are begining to push others away (not out) from the domestic market...


My other plane is an A380.
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25436 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7793 times:

Yes ONT could be good for Volaris on a stand alone basis, but I suspect since they are looking for connectivity with SWA, LAX won out as SWA is quite a bit larger at LAX with more onward destinations then ONT.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7737 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
utilizing A319 and A320 aircraft seating from 132 to 174 passengers.

Are they increasin pitch?.....I thought their A319's held 144 seats.



Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineA340Crew From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7645 times:

Now they have applied for FLL, LAX and OAK, all SWA cities.

SWA did announce a code share with them a few months ago, to start sometime the end of this year.


User currently offlineCX340 From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 609 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7590 times:

Good for Volaris! I think the SWA codeshare will bring great things for them in the future.

User currently offlineXAAPB From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 438 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7559 times:



Quoting A340Crew (Reply 6):

I read in a Mexican aviation forum that TLC-FLL has already been approved by the DOT. Don't know if it's ture.
Greetings



Jorge Meneses
User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7421 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
Yes ONT could be good for Volaris on a stand alone basis, but I suspect since they are looking for connectivity with SWA, LAX won out as SWA is quite a bit larger at LAX with more onward destinations then ONT.

Thanks for the information LAXintl. I hope this works well for Volaris.
I was ask why they didn't choose SJC over OAK and it makes sense why they would pick OAK since WN has many more flights from there than they do @ SJC though I feel they would do great @ SJC with the large immigrant population in the surrounding areas.

What's Volaris service like? BOB meals? IFE of any kind?


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7253 times:
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Have they opened the FIS building in between the two terminals yet at SJC? I hope they're still not using the double-wide trailers by the Cargo area.

User currently offlineWhosee From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days ago) and read 7169 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 10):
Have they opened the FIS building in between the two terminals yet at SJC? I hope they're still not using the double-wide trailers by the Cargo area.

The FIS facility was opened back in 2002. SJC is also getting ready to open up the new Terminal B (which replaces the old Terminal C) next year.


User currently offlineScutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 405 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days ago) and read 7152 times:

Wouldn't OAK - TIJ make a lot more sense? Huge number of connections across mexico vs basically none from GDL and Toluca... though I guess those are big destinations in their own right...

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7104 times:



Quoting Scutfarcus (Reply 12):
Wouldn't OAK - TIJ make a lot more sense? Huge number of connections across mexico vs basically none from GDL and Toluca... though I guess those are big destinations in their own right...

Well, Volaris has a lot of destinations from both TIJ and TLC (Volaris serves about 12 cities from TLC if I am not mistaken), but I guess you are right in the sense that TIJ would be better suited for connections considering its geographic location (connection at TLC may result in some backtracking).

In any case, I am not so sure that offering connecting flights to passengers is the core of the business model of a L.C.C. like Volaris. Anyway, I am sure TLC and GDL can sustain a lot of passengers.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7002 times:

Good for Volaris

I expect Volaris to go wherever Southwest is. I wouldn't be surprised if a Texas airport, Phoenix and Chicago's Midway are next online.


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6983 times:

Interesting since while TLC is Volaris' base of operations it only serves 13 cities from there vs. 18 cities served from TIJ and only 8 from GDL.


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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6922 times:

This will be the coolest A320/A319 at LAX..until Spirit comes back during 'daylight'..

..plus, it oughta be interesting to see what Volaris charges for Mexico City-Toluca flights, boy is that gonna be cheap!


BN747



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6852 times:



Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
it oughta be interesting to see what Volaris charges for Mexico City-Toluca flights

You mean LAX-TLC right? MEX and TLC are just a few miles away from each other, so there are obviously no flights between the two airports.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineKikiferret From Mexico, joined Oct 2008, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6802 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 14):
I expect Volaris to go wherever Southwest is. I wouldn't be surprised if a Texas airport, Phoenix and Chicago's Midway are next online.

I hope so, mainly on PHX or TUS at least.



saludos

Fer



Long live to T-tails!!!
User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6782 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 17):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
it oughta be interesting to see what Volaris charges for Mexico City-Toluca flights

You mean LAX-TLC right? MEX and TLC are just a few miles away from each other, so there are obviously no flights between the two airports.

Yes Eddie...kinda like when I use London-Heathrow, Tokyo-Haneda, etc

I was gonna actually fly them last year from TIJ to Mexico-TLC..but after looking at the bus connectionfrom TLC to the WTC (Insurgentes Sur) plus me driving down to TIJ just to do it...it wasn't worth the hassle no matter the price.or to experience the ride. But maybe, just maybe..directly from LAX-Mexico-TLC .. just to experience Volaris, I might do it. If I don't do it, the way they are expanding I can always try them on a domestic route with Mexico!


BN747



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2873 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6694 times:

Certainly logical additions to the Volaris network given the new WN codeshare. I imagine other important Southwest cities will soon see Volaris flights as well...SAN, PHX, LAS, MDW, MCO, TPA, and BWI seem obvious given the WN connecting opportunities. I doubt we will see any WN metal south of the border anytime soon. Can HOU receive international flights?


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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6638 times:



Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 20):
Can HOU receive international flights?

HOU master plan calls for international gate(s) and a F.I.S. in one of the new concourses. In the meanwhile, I don't know if the current terminal has room for a in-terminal F.I.S. When HOU was international, where was the F.I.S. located?
I would think if WN goes international someday soon, it'll be 1st to airports with U.S. F.I.S., and none of those is in México.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6472 times:

Rumors around both routes will be launched on the same day. June 2009 is the start date! One morning flight and one night flight!

Watch out MX and AM!

If I'd be MX and AM long ago I've would have launched TLC-USA routes!

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6413 times:

Some months ago, TACA tried unsuccessfully to sustain flights into TA SAL-OAK as back-up for TA SAL-SFO. It wasn't yet clear the reasons for that failed movement, but probably the operational costs at OAK are cheaper than SFO.
I envisage that Volaris is aiming to OAK instead SFO for similar issues. Be in mind the business relationship between TACA and Volaris.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineOAKflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6316 times:

Hope the Future OAK flights get approval. Would like to visit family and friends in TLC and GDL. I hope they are way cheaper than MX fares. Haven't flown MX since 2007. I hope Volaris does some awesome advertising in the Bay Area. I want to see a Volaris billboard near the bay bridge. I flew Volaris GDL-TIJ and loved it. I was hoping Volaris could fly OAK-TIJ. I only got to try this route on Lineas Aereas Aztecas a few years back. My flight ended up being the last flight on the route.

25 Wedgetail737 : Azteca wasn't the only Mexican airline that tried the route. Allegro Air tried it briefly before their demise. Would TIJ have problems getting traffi
26 OAKflyer : I remember the Allegro MD's here at OAK. At one time I thought I saw an Allegor 727. Maybe Volaris will get TIJ-OAK in the future. It would alleviate
27 Wedgetail737 : Before Allegro and Azteca was Taesa. Taesa flew to central Mexico to places like Leon and Zacatecas. They mainly flew 737-300's. However, there were
28 DesertAir : I am happy to see more service to Mexico from Oakland. I recall when MX was flying their night service the airport would be crowded with families wait
29 Eghansen : ONT is not desparate for new service. ONT is not in competition with LAX because ONT and LAX are owned by the same people, namely the City of Los Ang
30 Juventus : Too bad Volaris will not be taking any new birds in 2009, they had some momentum going. They were definetly expanding fast
31 Wedgetail737 : Ok...now I understand why people are suggesting OAK-TIJ for Volaris. Until I looked at their webpage, I didn't realize the size of their operations at
32 EddieDude : If I am not mistaken, it is AM who flies to ONT. Not MX. Really?
33 SJOtoLIR : Correct. AM GDL-ONT 7x weekly with 737 and code-sharing with DL. Regards.
34 Wedgetail737 : Based on how the airline industry is behaving, anything can happen.
35 LAXintl : DOT on Thursday approved Volaris application for all three routes. Lets see how soon they announce the markets.
36 Wedgetail737 : My guess is that Volaris will start LAX service first.
37 Eghansen : I doubt you will ever see any flights from the US to TIJ. Any flights from OAK/SEA to TIJ would compete with similar service from OAK/SEA to SAN whic
38 Wedgetail737 : It's totally possible. I wasn't suggesting TIJ to be an O&D destination for Volaris, but a connection city for them. Volaris apparently offers flight
39 Adriaticus : You're probably right, Ricardo, and that may expalin the new AM frequencies ex-TLC: 19x/week TLC-GDL and 19x/week TLC-MTY. I think it is exactly the
40 Eghansen : Volaris is a point-to-point carrier, not a hub operation. Although they fly to a lot of cities from TIJ, they only have 25 departures per day from TI
41 EddieDude : I beg to differ. Tijuana is not poor. While it may be a crappy city and having a hard time with drug-gang-related problems, it has a sizeable populat
42 Coronado990 : Yes, and this is where Southwest and Volaris should code/share. The service could be extended to Lindbergh Field's Terminal-1 for Southwest passenger
43 Post contains links Eghansen : Undeveloped might be a better word. Tijuana is greatly dependent on San Diego for its economy and has never developed some of the hotels, shopping, u
44 Marcus : God!......that has got to be one the most uniformed comments I have ever read in the website.
45 Cessnalady : Ditto, Marcus, EddieDude, Adriaticus... The Mexico-USA border is a country of its own, with its own nuances and idisioncracies. And for as aesthetica
46 SANFan : We're talking about 2 different things here: the WN/Y4 code-share agreement and about local traffic from OAK and LAX to Mexico. Regarding the code-sha
47 Eghansen : Sorry, but I have lived in San Diego all my life, been to Tijuana many times and flown out of TIJ several times on aircraft filled with American tour
48 Post contains links LoneStarMike : According to Gary Kelly, WN has no say whatsoever about the U.S. cities Y4 applied for. Here's the relevant excerpt from a rather lengthy interview w
49 Marcus : I have lived in TIJ for the 33 years of my life and while there have always been US tourists on board each and every single flight I have taken out o
50 SANFan : Hey, thanks for that quote, Mike. I obviously wondered about the situation; I'm very curious to see how this all develops. He does bring up a very go
51 OAkflyer : SANFan: I live in the Bay Area and fly into SAN on my way to Eastern Tijuana to see my cousins. I go there 6-8 times a year. I guess a lot of people h
52 SANFan : Welcome to A.net, 'flyer! Thanks for your input. IF OAK-TIJ happens, I'll be curious to hear from you about how it is. I can almost guarantee that th
53 Wedgetail737 : It's not like OAK-TIJ has never been done. Both Azteca and Allegro used to fly the OAK-TIJ route before their demise. If it is O&D or through traffic,
54 LACA773 : Whatever happened to Aviacsa? Are they still flying to LAX or did they pull their 73S/733s out? Is Volaris like Mexico's version of JetBlue? Will we e
55 SANFan : I do realize there have been attempts at it before but why haven't other cx taken the route up? AM? MX? (Especially AM since we know how they like to
56 Wedgetail737 : You're probably right. Back in the late 1980's, I flew on AM on the LAX-TIJ route on a DC-9-30. I think there was a whopping 8 passengers on the airc
57 LAXintl : Aviacsa ended LAX service much to the pleasure of MX back in February 2008. They publicly announced plans for GDL-LAX but not much came of that eithe
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