Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21229 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6987 times:
Falcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6644 times:
Quoting DC8FanJet (Reply 3): LGA could not possibly handle a 744 landing. The runway piers would collapse......
For the sake of argument, why not ? The weight bearing capacity for dual tandem landing gear aircraft is listed as 360,000 lbs. for both runways at LGA. While logistically it may be a bit challenging with regard to gates and wingspan taxiway limitations, if a 747-400 was light enough, why wouldn't it be able to ?
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Planeguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1066 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6303 times:
On flightaware you can often find these a/c errors for flights that are continuation with a/c change en route. Another example that often comes up is the UA flight LGA-IAD that continues to EZE (UA847 shows 767-300 but the domestic segment is usually a 757 - at least when I've taken it).
Jetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1523 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6253 times:
Quoting Falcon Flyer (Reply 4): For the sake of argument, why not ? The weight bearing capacity for dual tandem landing gear aircraft is listed as 360,000 lbs. for both runways at LGA. While logistically it may be a bit challenging with regard to gates and wingspan taxiway limitations, if a 747-400 was light enough, why wouldn't it be able to ?
Why not, because even if technically a 747 could land there, the Port Authority, who runs LGA would not allow it.
Could you even imagine the uproar from the community around LGA if the PA allowed this, the politicians would go ape$hit and the person who okayed it would definitely be out of a job.
AAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 836 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6056 times:
The wings would clip the terminals upon taking off...lol I beleive AA flew a A300 as a replacement aircraft last year. There are marking on some jet bridges at AA for the A300.
Adam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 395 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5989 times:
The runways are only 7000' long, whats the takeoff distance of a 744? I suppose you may be able to land one there but would you be able to get it off the ground again?
That idea reminds me of the 707 that landed at OSU and they had to strip the plane of all the seats and such to get it off the ground again on such a short runway.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14316 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5919 times:
Quoting Adam42185 (Reply 8): The runways are only 7000' long, whats the takeoff distance of a 744?
The 747 can probably use a 7000 ft. runway at low weights. For that matter I think that the VC-25s have used shorter runways. I bigger concern would be taxiway/ramp/gate space I think.
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DashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1314 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5670 times:
Jepp airport diagram for LGA notes restrictions on where a 747 can and can't taxi on the airport.
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5499 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 2): No. This is a continuation flight. The 744 runs PVG-ORD, and then a different airplane flies ORD-LGA.
It is a Flightaware error.
-Mir
Not to mention the correct flight/aircraft is listed right below... 752
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Bobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5213 times:
Yes the 747 can use a rwy of 7000ft or alittle less. Obviously it cant be that heavy though. Ive seen them land in RFD for a diversion, have 90k lbs of fuel on board, all the pax and cargo from NRT and take off on the 8200ft runway.
In JVL (janesville, WI) i believe there longest rwy is 7200ft and a VC-25 has been in there once or twice.
Ive seen an empty Polar 744 take off out of RFD and head to ORD in lesss then 3500ft of rwy...it was amazing.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19697 posts, RR: 56 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4350 times:
Quoting Falcon Flyer (Reply 4): For the sake of argument, why not ? The weight bearing capacity for dual tandem landing gear aircraft is listed as 360,000 lbs. for both runways at LGA. While logistically it may be a bit challenging with regard to gates and wingspan taxiway limitations, if a 747-400 was light enough, why wouldn't it be able to ?
Possibly because a 747-400 weighs just shy of 395,000lbs. Empty.
Also, 747s don't have dual tandem landing gear. They have double dual tandem gear.
-Mir
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Falcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3128 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 15): Possibly because a 747-400 weighs just shy of 395,000lbs. Empty.
Also, 747s don't have dual tandem landing gear. They have double dual tandem gear.
There are my answers. Thanks.
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Boeing727 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 934 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2459 times:
Quoting DashTrash (Reply 10): Jepp airport diagram for LGA notes restrictions on where a 747 can and can't taxi on the airport.
I believe that the Jepp diagram has a note stating that B744 aircraft cannot taxi at a speed greater than 10kts...
Rwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2144 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1678 times:
Quoting Jetstar (Reply 6): Could you even imagine the uproar from the community around LGA if the PA allowed this, the politicians would go ape$hit and the person who okayed it would definitely be out of a job.
They'd get no complaint from me! The only reason I'd be pissed is if I missed it flying over my house on the approach to 04.
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Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19697 posts, RR: 56 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
No problem. Though that isn't to say that a 747 can't land at LGA. You can land above the published weight limits as long as you clear it with the airport management first. They have the pavement data, and they know what the runway can actually handle (more than what's published).
But with JFK and EWR so close by, and the size restrictions of LGA, flying a 747 in there would be a lot of extra hassle for marginal benefit.
-Mir
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I beleive AA flew a A300 as a replacement aircraft last year. There are marking on some jet bridges at AA for the A300.
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