HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7838 times:
Have any of our NWA/Delta insiders heard any talk about any possible retrojets coming out down the road? It seems to be all the craze right now, there are a bunch of airlines that have released their own retrojets this past year, and Continental is voting on or has voted on a retrojet for a 737 of theirs. The planes have to get painted anyways so why not pop off some kick butt retrojets? I know there are a ton of different retrojets they could do, but its not like Delta isnt the worlds largest airline they have plenty of planes.
The right decision at the wrong time, is still a wrong decision. "Hal Carr"
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9157 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7809 times:
They could even do a 744 or 777 in the original black and orange colors of the Travelaire!
DALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2365 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7674 times:
NWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1389 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7560 times:
Brandonfs88 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7529 times:
I would love to see Herman the goose on the back of a DC-9
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14311 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7527 times:
Josh32121 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 325 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7500 times:
Given the very simple current livery, it would be really neat to see historic tails painted on select aircraft while leaving the body in the current livery (Western Airlines, Old Delta widget, Various Old Northwest Red Tails, Sideways Widget, Golden Crown, Northeast Airlines, C&S, etc.).
EXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7435 times:
Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 7): Given the very simple current livery, it would be really neat to see historic tails painted on select aircraft while leaving the body in the current livery (Western Airlines, Old Delta widget, Various Old Northwest Red Tails, Sideways Widget, Golden Crown, Northeast Airlines, C&S, etc.).
How about one Southern, One North Central and one Hughes Airwest?
AAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7437 times:
I would love to see the widget flying around again.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7410 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6): Weren't they delivered in that scheme?
Not exactly. The Widget livery had been tweaked on a few occasions. The livery that was on the 757s was slightly different from the earlier variants, as the Air Lines titles had been removed, the title font had been changed, the angle of the widget was greater (especially on the front one), and the Delta title underneath the front widget had been removed.
I definitely agree that they ought to paint one of the DC-9s in the sideways widget livery.
My personal pick would be to use the Delta livery that originally appeared on the 880s:
ComairGuyCVG From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 304 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7327 times:
They need to put the 1980's paing scheme on a 777. That would be real cool. In fact...they just need to bring back the 1980's paint scheme all together...the best scheme on the planet!!
Rwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2139 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7109 times:
HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7003 times:
Wow I really did not realize that there were so many airlines that merged with airlines and are now part of Delta. Ok so maybe Delta does not have enough planes in the fleet to do all the retrojets But I think that Delta really needs to do some retojet schemes. Maybe introduce 3 a year until they have them all covered?? I just hope some higher up at Delta has plans to do retrojets.
The right decision at the wrong time, is still a wrong decision. "Hal Carr"
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6952 times:
Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 4): This is a longshot but a DC-9 would look good like this:
When did they have a sideways widget? Was it only on the DC-9's?
Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 7): Given the very simple current livery, it would be really neat to see historic tails painted on select aircraft while leaving the body in the current livery (Western Airlines, Old Delta widget, Various Old Northwest Red Tails, Sideways Widget, Golden Crown, Northeast Airlines, C&S, etc.).
After the fiasco that was the BA world tails, I can't see another airline trying something similar. PIA is currently doing it, and I don't know what kind of response it's getting.
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C767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 861 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6843 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 14): When did they have a sideways widget?
Dispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6834 times:
I dont see any of the above happening until single operating certificate is achieved.
HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6834 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 14): When did they have a sideways widget? Was it only on the DC-9's?
I think that the sideways widget came out in the 60's maybe with the introduction of the DC-9? I think the DC-9 was the only plane in the fleet to have the sideways widget.
If Delta does not decide to do any retro jets themselves, I personally am hoping that some old ducks will paint a DC-9 in North Central colors after the DC-9 is retired. Or I am hoping that a DC-9 or two finds their way into a museum in various colors over the original operators. Heck at least one DC-9 needs to go to a museum they must have a billion hours on them? They are like McDonald's motto billions and billions served.
The right decision at the wrong time, is still a wrong decision. "Hal Carr"
Nwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3324 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6694 times:
Quoting Dispatchguy (Reply 16): I dont see any of the above happening until single operating certificate is achieved.
Why not? Just paint the NW A/C in their prior liveries (Hughes, Southern, Pacific, etc.), and DL A/C in theirs (Northeast, Western, etc.).
"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
HermansCVR580 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6426 times:
I like your thinking Nwaesc.
The right decision at the wrong time, is still a wrong decision. "Hal Carr"
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6045 times:
I just read that DL flight attendents MAY be sporting retro unis along with Western and Pan Am outfits.
I like the idea of retro jets for any carrier. I am especially interested in the golden tail of Continental. This was the CO of the early and mid 60's.
Any dinosaurs remember......."Watch for the jet with golden tail..."
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Dispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5924 times:
NWAESC - its called corporate bandwidth.
The corporate powers that be have more important fish to fry as far as getting their systems, manuals, and processes and the DL systems, manuals, and processes together.
For someone to waste their time with a frivolous thing like this - ummm, no. Yes, it would be nice, but, there are bigger fish to fry.
I can see, however, some kind of retrojet as a celebration of S-O-C being achieved; but not before.
Nwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3324 posts, RR: 9 Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5730 times:
Quoting Dispatchguy (Reply 21): The corporate powers that be have more important fish to fry as far as getting their systems, manuals, and processes and the DL systems, manuals, and processes together.
For someone to waste their time with a frivolous thing like this - ummm, no. Yes, it would be nice, but, there are bigger fish to fry.
I know. I get it...
I'm just saying it's possible.
Besides, they're already painting the planes anyway, so why not, you know?
"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
Nitrohelper From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 463 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5611 times:
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9157 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5577 times:
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 20): Any dinosaurs remember......."Watch for the jet with golden tail..."
We used to call CO, "The proud bird with the brass ass".
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
25 300cap: That would be so cool! I like the paint scheme on the DC-8 or the Convair 880. I think a NW retro would be a nice gesture the NW folks. With that said
26 HermansCVR580: While it would be nice to see retro jets now with the celebrations going on this week, I do agree with Dispatchguy and waiting until the dust has sett
28 Viscount630: Maybe I imagined it...... But didn't DL have a 767 in a 1940s retro-scheme for a while?? Now then, "Herman" on a 747-400 or an A330? Hal N. Carr would
29 Skoker: Sure it wasn't an article about how they have been wearing them all week long? It's been retro uniform week here at Delta...leading up to the "merger
30 N7190JR: Yes but i feel it would be cool to see them all on DC-9's since that is kind of the retro aircraft, lol - N7190JR
31 DALMD88: Yes, Spirit of Delta was painted in the same colors as ship 41, our in house DC-3. Spirit was then painted back into the original widget before getti
32 HermansCVR580: Yes seeing the reto schemes on a DC-9 would be really neat since alot of the airlines that are now part of the Delta originally flew DC-9's. How cool
33 BMI727: I agree completely. I for one love retrojets, like sports teams wearing throwback jerseys. Pretty much anything that keeps an airline's history alive
34 HermansCVR580: Yeah NWA did that I think only on the 757-300 when they first received them. Oh can't forget when they first got the 757-200's in the 80's they had t
35 Richiemo: Bring the 70s/80s/early 90s scheme back altogether. This new one is dreadful. I have to look away in heartache every time I see a Delta plane. All the
36 DALMD88: No names on the aircraft. I wish we would. I've always liked the classic name stuff. I think it brings some class that is sorely lacking in today's a
37 NWADC9: Just like US Airways... me like! Northwest Airlink is the only source for named planes nowadays. Southern, AirWest, Delta, Northwest, Hughes Air West
38 Widgetmd11: Yup, I flew on 'City of Anchorage' and 'City of Tampa Bay' in late 85' Routing ANC-MSP-ANC I'm pretty sure both were in Northwest Orient colors.
39 HermansCVR580: Hey I would be happy with retro Saab's if that gets us some retro planes Bu I think it would be pretty neat looking if Delta errr Mesaba repaints the
40 NWAESC: Well, let's see... On the NW side: Republic North Central Wisconsin Central Empire Zimmerly West Coast Bonanza Air West Hughes Air West ('cause we'll
41 Isitsafenow: 1970 I would put one in 1/2 Northeast yellowbird colors because of the 1970 approved merger with Northeast. Then, NW walked away from it because the d
42 Mayor: The way the combined route map looks, I'm not sure you could tell what it was from a distance, only up close.
43 HermansCVR580: Thats true Mayor it would look like a ball of yarn gone wild on the S-340 with all the new routes. Ok scratch that idea. Just give me my retro jets in
44 Mayor: I think the only a/c that it would work on would be the 744!
46 HermansCVR580: Yup I just shat myself Very nice Western A-318. Could anybody post some of the other possible retrojets??? I know there is a North Central A-320 out t
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From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 494 posts, 
But I think that Delta really needs to do some retojet schemes. Maybe introduce 3 a year until they have them all covered?? I just hope some higher up at Delta has plans to do retrojets.
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