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Dropping Pax Off At LTN? - That Will Be £1 Please!  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3006 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

People knock airlines like Ryanair for their additonal charges, but now the airports seem to be getting in on the action...

The Central Terminal Area (CTA) at London-Luton Airport is currently under-going major refurbishment to relieve the current bottle necks passengers are experiencing when being dropped off outside the terminal when travelling by bus, taxi or car...

From the end of April when the new "Improved" drop-off area opens, the airport have decided to charge the driver who is dropping off passengers outside the terminal, £1 for the privilige of being able to drop to them off right at the heart of the airport.

When you enter the drop off zone, you will need receive ticket and have to exit within 10 minutes and pay £1 at the exiting barrier!

They will however still have a "Free" drop off zone, but this will be at the exisiting mid-stay car park and then when passengers are dropped off they will need to drag their luggage on to the courtesy bus and travel the half mile to the terminal. The ideal thing to do if you want to p*ss off your friends or family, when taking them to the airport!

I think this is just going to cause chaos, for anyone who knows LTN... I think cars will just stop in the middle of the road at the roundabout by the termnal and passengers from the cars will just get out there and hold traffic up, without going into the pay area!

This is just the latest in many additional fees airports are getting from travelling passengers in the UK, others include:

Airport Improvement Fees -
Usually payable at a ticket booth, before passing through security, and the airports will not allow you to travel without paying this fee. Airports including Blackpool, Newquay and Norwich have introduced this.

"Priority" Lane Through Security -
Usually a fee of about £3, and when they introduce this service, they usually reduce the number of normal manned security serach facilities making these queues longer and enticing people to pay the fee (call me a cynic!). Liverpool and Luton both have this service.

Bus Service to Airport Railway Station -
Luton use to run a courtesy bus service between Luton Airport Parkway station and the terminal, they handed this bus service over to the rail operators and is now £2 to take the 1.5 mile journey to the station.

Pay to receive a clear plastic bags -
If you forget to bring a clear sealable bag for you liquids, when going through security - never fear the airport has vending machines selling these for £1!

Airport Baggage Trollies -
These are now £1 at some UK airports to use and this is not refundable unlike the trollys in the supermarket!

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User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Very interesting indeed. All this in the middle of a recession.

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7694 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2986 times:
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I do know Luton, and as suggested, I believe this will simply cause mayhem with people seeking to avoid being fleeced just for dropping people off.

On a more general note, I am sick of such ridiculous extra fees being imposed all over the place.



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User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2899 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
Bus Service to Airport Railway Station -
Luton use to run a courtesy bus service between Luton Airport Parkway station and the terminal, they handed this bus service over to the rail operators and is now £2 to take the 1.5 mile journey to the station.

Pay to receive a clear plastic bags -
If you forget to bring a clear sealable bag for you liquids, when going through security - never fear the airport has vending machines selling these for £1!

Airport Baggage Trollies -
These are now £1 at some UK airports to use and this is not refundable unlike the trollys in the supermarket!

Unbelievable! I flew through LGW recently and the £1 in the trolleys are refundable like in a supermarket, the plastic bags were free in big dispensers in the terminal.

I havent flown from LTN in years but I do remember the free bus from the station, always assumed it was fair for it to be free as you have to use it and as the station isn't a proper airport station like other airports, £2, amazing.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11617 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2873 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
I think this is just going to cause chaos, for anyone who knows LTN... I think cars will just stop in the middle of the road at the roundabout by the termnal and passengers from the cars will just get out there and hold traffic up, without going into the pay area!

Yeap, this is exactly what will happen. Something similar was put in place at PLH; the normal free/pittance to spend 15 mins in the car park was done away with and a minimum charge of £2 or so introduced, which just lead to the taxi bays being used by those picking up and dropping off passengers, or anywhere else cars could find to park. The airport has finally seen sense though and made the first 15 minutes free, which is more than enough.


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3945 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
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For a few years now, DFW has been charging vehicles $2 for staying on airport property for up to 30 minutes, and unlike LTN, there really is no way at all to avoid the charges unless you want to eject your passengers out of the car just before the toll plaza and make them walk, which given the airport layout, could be quite a distance, and I am not even sure there are sidewalks.


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User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1240 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

In a time when we try to encourage more people away from their cars and into mass transport of different kinds it seems rather weird that buses have to pay.
I assume this is tourist coaches and such but still weird and rather counter-productive.

I don't mind fees for cars that park at airports or drop off people, thats fair, if people choose to go by car they can pay.
But buses that we want to encourage should of course have the best parking and drop off zones as well as be free.
Especially the new ones with Euro 4 standard technology.



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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3006 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2573 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
Bus Service to Airport Railway Station -
Luton use to run a courtesy bus service between Luton Airport Parkway station and the terminal, they handed this bus service over to the rail operators and is now £2 to take the 1.5 mile journey to the station.

My apologies, this is not entirely correct...

Luton Airport itself is considered part of the UK railway network as it is served by buses operated by a train company (First Capital Connect in this instance), if you buy a train ticket and make it clear you are travelling to Luton Airport and NOT Luton Airport Parkway your ticket will include the bus journet to the terminal. Ticket prices to LTN Parkway and the airport itself are exactly the same.

The fare is to ensure only train passengers are using the service and anyone else using it has to pay the according fee.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21477 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2535 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Thread starter):
Airport Baggage Trollies -
These are now £1 at some UK airports to use and this is not refundable unlike the trollys in the supermarket!

In the USA, our "smartcartes" or similar have always had a charge except when arriving internationally (pre-customs).  Sad

But our shopping carts/trolleys at the supermarket have always been free of charge.  Smile



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User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 8):
But our shopping carts/trolleys at the supermarket have always been free of charge.

Some supermarkets charge a quarter for shopping carts. Not major ones but those that are not well known. That is so they can keep the carts and no one steals them too=lower costs.

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 5):
For a few years now, DFW has been charging vehicles $2 for staying on airport property for up to 30 minutes, and unlike LTN, there really is no way at all to avoid the charges unless you want to eject your passengers out of the car just before the toll plaza and make them walk, which given the airport layout, could be quite a distance, and I am not even sure there are sidewalks.

I have heard from people there that there were commuters using the highway also as a shortcut to the freeways nearby and that was the other reason they put the toll in. I guess that these airports are trying to get people on public transport, but they need a good way to get there instead of getting off the train and wait for a bus to take you to the terminals or train station.



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User currently offlineWn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2454 times:



Quote:
For a few years now, DFW has been charging vehicles $2 for staying on airport property for up to 30 minutes, and unlike LTN, there really is no way at all to avoid the charges unless you want to eject your passengers out of the car just before the toll plaza and make them walk, which given the airport layout, could be quite a distance, and I am not even sure there are sidewalks.

If you are really adventurous, you can sneak off to the side service road, & drop them off at a stop along the E Employee lot. No toll that way. But you'd pretty much have to work there to know that.


User currently offlineSbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 836 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

BHX has had a similar £1 charge for some time now. Nice money earner for the airport.


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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2207 times:



Quoting CcrlR (Reply 9):
I have heard from people there that there were commuters using the highway also as a shortcut to the freeways nearby and that was the other reason they put the toll in.

I suspect that is the reason. I certainly don't know of any airports in California that charge to drop off passengers at the terminal. If they tried to do it at LAX, SAN and SFO, there would be a horrible traffic bottleneck at the entrances (as if there isn't one already).


User currently offlineAcelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 821 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

£2.00 to ride the bus from Luton Parkway up the hill to the airport!
How much would a taxi be? evenmoreso if there were four or so.

How many station ticket offices know to sell tickets to the airport
and not just Parkway so it includes the bus journey.....

Thankfully I don't normally have to fly through LTN and if I am it involves
picking up/droping off a Hire car so would avoid most silly charges...
Seem to remember the car parks are pricey as well..



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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3945 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
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Quoting CcrlR (Reply 9):
I have heard from people there that there were commuters using the highway also as a shortcut to the freeways nearby and that was the other reason they put the toll in.

Initially, you'd pay if you drove from toll plaza to toll plaza in less than 5 minutes (I think - or some other duration supposed to correspond to the amount of time necessary to do the distance non-stop). Beyond that threshold, access was free for up to 30 minutes. Now, there's no freebie at all.

Quoting CcrlR (Reply 9):
I guess that these airports are trying to get people on public transport,

"Texas" and "public transport" do not exist in the same sentence, unless it is to say the concept is totally alien. Not that there isn't any, but what there is is a complete joke.

Quoting Wn700driver (Reply 10):
But you'd pretty much have to work there to know that.

And not mind the glares...



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

I wonder if FR will be saying anything about this.

On the flip side, LTN have to get their money from somewhere to pay for all the upgrades and when all your airline customers are LCC's, you can be sure all their charges are beaten down to the bare minimum.

They should get some nice revenue from all the bizjet traffic though - anyone know how landing fees etc compare to STN for example?



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