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What Pan Am Aircraft Did My Mother Fly On?  
User currently offlineAerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2867 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Hi Everybody,

My mam flew JFK-ATL-MIA in Sept 1980. She said she flew from New York to Atlanta with AF then onto Miami with PanAm, would anybody know what kind of aircraft would have been on the route back then? She then later flew back from MIA to JFK just with Pan Am. I'm just really curious, if she got aomething cool like an L1011 or something....Thanks!

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User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4495 times:

I flew JFK-ATL and ORL-JFK in the mid eighties and these flights were on 727's


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User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

ATL-MIA was probably a 727.

MIA-ORLY would be a DC-10-30


Did you say she flew from Paris to Atlanta nonstop in 1980? I had no idea Air France flew to Atlanta back then. BCAL, Sabena, LH yes but not AF.


User currently offlineRwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4254 times:



Quoting Aerdingus (Thread starter):
She said she flew from New York to Atlanta with AF

That wouldn't have been on Air France.

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 2):
Did you say she flew from Paris to Atlanta nonstop in 1980? I had no idea Air France flew to Atlanta back then.

Nobody mentioned Paris.



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User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4149 times:



Quoting Rwy04LGA (Reply 3):
Nobody mentioned Paris.

My mistake.


User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1609 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4113 times:

I don't think Pan Am started Atlanta service until after 1980. When they did serve ATL, they used mostly 737-200s.

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4093 times:



Quoting Gr8SlvrFlt (Reply 5):
I don't think Pan Am started Atlanta service until after 1980

Wasn't there codeshare with Pan Am and AirAtlanta?


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User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4039 times:
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The July 8, 1980, timetable would have been in effect for a September 1980 flight (the next issue was an October 1980 timetable). Per this timetable, Pan Am did not serve Atlanta. Atlanta first appeared in a Pan Am timetable in the April 1982 schedule. (I have all of the Pan Am timetables from the mid-1970s until the end.)

Pan Am did have five nonstop flights that operated from MIA to JFK. Four were daily (82, 72, 250, 422) and one was Monday only (454). PAA072 upgraded to a 747 on Saturdays, and PAA454 operated with a 747SP. The rest of the flights were likely operated with 727. This timetable only noted widebody flights, and the 707 was almost gone. It's possible one of the National DC-10's operated a flight since the DC-10's weren't identified in this schedule.


User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3674 times:



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
Wasn't there codeshare with Pan Am and AirAtlanta?

Yeah I flew on them twice once in '84 and '85 from JFK-ATL. They had a gate at the Worldport. Very light loads, very good service and exceptionally clean interiors as I recall.


User currently offlineTrojanclipper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Pan Am was the dominant merger partner with National Airlines in 1980 and most of shorter range flights were on 727-200's. They also in this merger acquired DC-10 aircraft, but the L1011-500 series were purchased for long haul routes, later surrendered to United. If anyone has a timetable for National during the period in question, it may provide a more complete answer.

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

Best I can do is a January 1982 OAG which shows EA, DL and Republic with flights between
Atlanta and Miami.

I don't think National ever served Atlanta prior to the Pan Am merger.
I have a February 1985 OAG that shows Pan Am with service between ATL and MIA
HOWEVER, it points out that service was a joint operation with Air Atlanta as pointed out in an above post.
safe



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User currently offlineMaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1161 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3589 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 10):
Best I can do is a January 1982 OAG which shows EA, DL and Republic with flights between
Atlanta and Miami.

I don't think National ever served Atlanta prior to the Pan Am merger.
I have a February 1985 OAG that shows Pan Am with service between ATL and MIA
HOWEVER, it points out that service was a joint operation with Air Atlanta as pointed out in an above post.
safe

Actually, National did service Atlanta from SFO only - 1969 to around 1977 with DC-8s. This was the CAB's idea of giving Delta competition on the route, the same way Northeast was awarded MIA-LAX about the same time to give NAL competition.

But you are correct in that National never flew MIA-ATL. Or ATL to anywhere but SFO.

[Edited 2009-03-29 18:04:41]

User currently offlineAerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2867 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

I think she might have got the AF mixed up with somehting else alright! Thanks for the response


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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

I flew LGA-ATL on TWA 727 in Nov. 1979, after a CGN-JFK on LH 707. There were no JFK_ATL flights available by then.

User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3164 times:



Quoting Aerdingus (Thread starter):
She said she flew from New York to Atlanta with AF then onto Miami with PanAm

Did you mean Air Florida?

MB


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