Aerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2495 posts, RR: 18 Posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3236 times:
Hi Everybody,
My mam flew JFK-ATL-MIA in Sept 1980. She said she flew from New York to Atlanta with AF then onto Miami with PanAm, would anybody know what kind of aircraft would have been on the route back then? She then later flew back from MIA to JFK just with Pan Am. I'm just really curious, if she got aomething cool like an L1011 or something....Thanks!
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Rwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2258 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2991 times:
Gr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1583 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2850 times:
I don't think Pan Am started Atlanta service until after 1980. When they did serve ATL, they used mostly 737-200s.
Clipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2776 times:
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The July 8, 1980, timetable would have been in effect for a September 1980 flight (the next issue was an October 1980 timetable). Per this timetable, Pan Am did not serve Atlanta. Atlanta first appeared in a Pan Am timetable in the April 1982 schedule. (I have all of the Pan Am timetables from the mid-1970s until the end.)
Pan Am did have five nonstop flights that operated from MIA to JFK. Four were daily (82, 72, 250, 422) and one was Monday only (454). PAA072 upgraded to a 747 on Saturdays, and PAA454 operated with a 747SP. The rest of the flights were likely operated with 727. This timetable only noted widebody flights, and the 707 was almost gone. It's possible one of the National DC-10's operated a flight since the DC-10's weren't identified in this schedule.
Dc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1554 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2411 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6): Wasn't there codeshare with Pan Am and AirAtlanta?
Yeah I flew on them twice once in '84 and '85 from JFK-ATL. They had a gate at the Worldport. Very light loads, very good service and exceptionally clean interiors as I recall.
Trojanclipper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2385 times:
Pan Am was the dominant merger partner with National Airlines in 1980 and most of shorter range flights were on 727-200's. They also in this merger acquired DC-10 aircraft, but the L1011-500 series were purchased for long haul routes, later surrendered to United. If anyone has a timetable for National during the period in question, it may provide a more complete answer.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2355 times:
Best I can do is a January 1982 OAG which shows EA, DL and Republic with flights between
Atlanta and Miami.
I don't think National ever served Atlanta prior to the Pan Am merger.
I have a February 1985 OAG that shows Pan Am with service between ATL and MIA
HOWEVER, it points out that service was a joint operation with Air Atlanta as pointed out in an above post.
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Maxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 861 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2326 times:
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 10): Best I can do is a January 1982 OAG which shows EA, DL and Republic with flights between
Atlanta and Miami.
I don't think National ever served Atlanta prior to the Pan Am merger.
I have a February 1985 OAG that shows Pan Am with service between ATL and MIA
HOWEVER, it points out that service was a joint operation with Air Atlanta as pointed out in an above post.
safe
Actually, National did service Atlanta from SFO only - 1969 to around 1977 with DC-8s. This was the CAB's idea of giving Delta competition on the route, the same way Northeast was awarded MIA-LAX about the same time to give NAL competition.
But you are correct in that National never flew MIA-ATL. Or ATL to anywhere but SFO.
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