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CO Routes To Mexico (non-hub)  
User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2018 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

Is CO still flying routes to Mexico that are NOT from their hubs?

CO Express was flying from LAX to various markets in Mexico. Are any still operating?

CO mainline has also flown a smattering over other odd routes to MEX over the years as well. Are any still operating?

I was just wondering....

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User currently offlineIAD51FL From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 353 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

http://timetable.continental.com/siteb/co.pdf (1.2mb)

Has all the info you are looking for.

Chris



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User currently offlineAcidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3781 times:
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To properly answer your question and not just hand you a book and tell you to look it up yourself, CO does not have any more non-hub Mexico routes. They all go through IAH, with a few EWR and a handful of CLE routes to vacation spots like CUN.


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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

Doesn't CO fly MEX-MFE-MEX?

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16825 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3556 times:



Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 3):
Doesn't CO fly MEX-MFE-MEX?

Not anymore, besides the ExpressJet flights from LAX CO had at one time a pretty extensive network from MEX to non hubs such as..

SAN-MEX (1 daily MD-80)
SAT-MEX
ELP-MEX
MFE-MEX
JFK-MEX



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6531 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

CO also flew MSY-CUN and MSY-MEX in happier times.

User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3478 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
Not anymore, besides the ExpressJet flights from LAX CO had at one time a pretty extensive network from MEX to non hubs such as..

SAN-MEX (1 daily MD-80)
SAT-MEX
ELP-MEX
MFE-MEX
JFK-MEX

CO's good old times at MEX. I flew some of these routes and remember that CO was well known in stations like MFE and ELP for its flights to MEX. At one point, CO was flying a B738 between MEX and MFE!!

I also remember MEX-LRD with an E135...

What has been happening to the MEX- US non hub flights for US Airlines? Today, we only see MEX to hub flights for most (if not all) of them. Even DL struggled on the MEX-MCO route!!! Has the market changed a lot in recent times or competition through fares has been so strong to lure people to use hubs?


User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 626 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

And Newark-Mexico City used to be with a DC-10.

User currently offlineOlli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

I got really impressed about CO operation into Mexico, for example, yesterday March 28 there were 87 OW flights to this country from IAH, EWR and CLE. That is a lot.

Best Regards,


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16825 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3425 times:



Quoting Mats (Reply 7):
And Newark-Mexico City used to be with a DC-10.

That was the mid 1990s, it was replaced by the 757-200 and then it went double daily with 737-700s and 737-800s.

Also from the Mid '80s - Mid '90s CO was flying A300s between IAH and MEX.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2018 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

Thanks for the responses. I am surprised all the non-hub Mexico flying did not turn out to be viable in the end. Why was this so?

User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3660 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2950 times:



Quoting Klwright69 (Reply 10):
I am surprised all the non-hub Mexico flying did not turn out to be viable in the end. Why was this so?

Me too.

Was it in anticipation of the proposed codeshare agreement between AM and CO that never materialized?



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User currently offlineXaapb From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 435 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2709 times:



Quoting Rojo (Reply 6):
CO was flying a B738 between MEX and MFE!!

When did that happend!! I took many time that flight specially during the holidays and it was always the ERJ.
Saludos!



Jorge Meneses
User currently offlineEvanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

I remember I Christmas eve this year CO flew a 762 from IAH-GDL. Yeah, now that's messed up. Also a 752 from IAH-MEX....

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16825 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

As per my December, 1994 OAG Latin American/Caribbean edition:

Mexico City-
Brownsville 1 MD80- Houston 4 MD80, 3 727, 1 757- Mc Allen 1 MD80- Newark 1 757- San Antonio 1 727- San Diego 1 MD80-



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2486 times:



Quoting Xaapb (Reply 12):
When did that happend!! I took many time that flight specially during the holidays and it was always the ERJ.
Saludos!

Long time ago, when the aircraft that used to fly MEX-MFE-MEX was the aircraft flying EWR-MEX-EWR. Therefore, it flew EWR-MEX-MFE-MEX-EWR with a RON in MFE. The flight arrived from EWR around 8:30pm and departed to MFE at 9:30pm. From MFE it was an early morning flight 6:00am arriving in MEX at 7:30 and departing to EWR at 9:00am. For CO it was a better utilization of an aircraft that otherwise will be parked at MEX.

Quoting Evanbu (Reply 13):
I remember I Christmas eve this year CO flew a 762 from IAH-GDL. Yeah, now that's messed up. Also a 752 from IAH-MEX....

Almost every Christmas CO flies widebodies to MEX. During Christmas (December 24/25) CO operate a reduced intercontinental schedule and knowing that many Mexicans travel to the US for Christmas vacations, they change aircrafts for some flights. In 2008, CO operated the B767-400 on the IAH-MEX-IAH sector. In 2005, CO operated the B777-200 as shown in the following picture:


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User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Given the huge traffic in/out MEX, wouldn't be adviseble for CO to fly MEX-SAT or MEX-AUS instead of keeping aircraft R.O.N. on MEX and AUS or SAT? If timmed properly, both AUS and SAT could support daily (if not 6 x week) non-stop flights between those airports and MEX. However AUS/SAT-GDL-AUS/SAT I'm not that sure yet.
When it comes to CUN, surely AUS and/or SAT can at least support weekend non-stop flights.
I see how AA behaves in South Florida and I'm trying to compared to the Houston-San Antonio/Austion area (bear in mind Texas distances are not Florida distances); in Florida, MIA is AA hub, but they do offer flights from neighbouring FLL to key markets and I bet, if lots of money was to be made of, AA would fly from PBI too.



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